best spell damage setup with molag kena?

imenace

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

Bashev

I guess you can easily find yourself --> http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets

mklundub17_ESO

I'm running:

3 willpower jewelry
5 kagrenacs hope (crafted)
2 or 3 torugs
1 molag kena

Torugs helm and weapons means I get 3x bonus (health) for dual wield or 1h+shield, 2x bonus for resto staff.

Only gear I would possibly replace it with for current content would be a 5pc set of overwhelming from WGT.

There is a good spell dmg set coming out with orsinium as well.

Septimus_Magna

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

imenace

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

no actually im running dual wield
molag kena shoulder
helm martial
body martial
waist martial
boots martial
pants torugs
hands torugs

dual wield willpower+ necklace
2xcyro light rings

Minno

imenace wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

no actually im running dual wield
molag kena shoulder
helm martial
body martial
waist martial
boots martial
pants torugs
hands torugs

dual wield willpower+ necklace
2xcyro light rings

Is there vr16 martial knowledge? I thought there wasn't.

imenace

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

Minno wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

no actually im running dual wield
molag kena shoulder
helm martial
body martial
waist martial
boots martial
pants torugs
hands torugs

dual wield willpower+ necklace
2xcyro light rings

Is there vr16 martial knowledge? I thought there wasn't.

there isnt but i cant be bothered to grind for the v16 version, ill just wait for the julianos set in orsinium

tist

if dual wielding

5 kagrenac
3 willpower
3 archmage
1 molag keena

Ezareth

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

Minno

imenace wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

Minno wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

i want to make a build around 1 piece molag kena and im wondering what sets should i go with for the best spelldamage&regen
right now im thinking 4 martial ( dont have the v16 one ) 2 torugs pact 2 cyro light 3 willpower 1 molag kena

I assume you're using staffs based on the fact that you currently have listed 11 gear pieces.

1x) v16 Molag Kena
3x) v16 Willpower
2x) v16 Torugs Pact
5x) v16 Kagrenac's Hope (change this for Julianos when Orsinium is released)

Note: for pve dps the Nerienths 2pc is very strong.

no actually im running dual wield
molag kena shoulder
helm martial
body martial
waist martial
boots martial
pants torugs
hands torugs

dual wield willpower+ necklace
2xcyro light rings

Is there vr16 martial knowledge? I thought there wasn't.

there isnt but i cant be bothered to grind for the v16 version, ill just wait for the julianos set in orsinium

If not looking for 5pc bonus that martial has, 4 piece elfs bane will give you the spell dmg stats. Kare hope gives you that burst of spell power at the 5piece bonus with good magic bonuses.

Ishammael

Ezareth wrote: »

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

This is fine for PvE DPS. For PvP, you'll be a total glass cannon.

imenace

Ezareth wrote: »

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

i see, so what would you recommend ?

Tankqull

for pvp you´ll need more sustain so 2-3 mana reg set bonis are a must for me. thats why Ez did not recommend that setup i guess as it provides no mana reg at all... that doesent matter in pve with ele drain+siphon spirit providing enough "reg" but is an issue within pvp.

there are several options iam using currently as im totally unlucky with willpoer jewlary (12x robus till now )
5x kagrenacs + 4x healer + 2x torugs (with 2x spell dmg on the healer jewlery) but will probably change to
5x seducer + 3x willpower + 2x torugs + molag kena

i prefer destro staffs in pvp as crushing shock is a nice spamable ability to proc frags and it gifs you a range rupt wich is quite handsome in many cases.

Ezareth

imenace wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

i see, so what would you recommend ?

Hrmm that would depend on many factors. Is this PvP or PvE? Solo, large group or small group? I run multiple arcane willpower sets and change them out depending on the situation. I did the same in 1.6 with cyrodiil light.

One of each for spellpower, one for cost reduction, and working on a regen set as well.

Kagrenac is a great crafted set, as is torugs if it fits. I don't have access to spell power cure so I opt for magicka over spell damage in some cases as with my CPs it provides almost as much damage.

I wouldn't craft Kagrenac at this point, unless you're fine using v15 purple or something for the next few weeks. Julianos next patch will be the highest DPS magicka set by a large margin.

Minno

Ezareth wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

i see, so what would you recommend ?

Hrmm that would depend on many factors. Is this PvP or PvE? Solo, large group or small group? I run multiple arcane willpower sets and change them out depending on the situation. I did the same in 1.6 with cyrodiil light.

One of each for spellpower, one for cost reduction, and working on a regen set as well.

Kagrenac is a great crafted set, as is torugs if it fits. I don't have access to spell power cure so I opt for magicka over spell damage in some cases as with my CPs it provides almost as much damage.

I wouldn't craft torugs at this point, unless you're fine using v15 purple or something for the next few weeks. Julianos next patch will be the highest DPS magicka set by a large margin.

Assuming A bug does ruin julianos set for a few months

Ezareth

Minno wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

imenace wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Molag Kena is currently a must in a current max spell damage setup but in 3 weeks that will change.

Your goal should be this:

Willpower is a given due to +50% Bonus that nothing else to date receives

You will only want to use 2 other sets with this and one must be craftable due to Nirnhoned.

This leaves you with the choice of Kagrenac, Torug's, Julianos(Osrinium).

The maximum Spell Damage you can currently receive from sets is:

4 Pc Overwhelming Surge (258 SD)
1 Pc Molag Kena (129 SD)
3 Pc Willpower (186 SD)
2 Pc Torugs Pack (129 SD)(dual nirnhoned swords)
2 Pc Cyrodiil's Light (123 SD)

I wouldn't recommend this setup TBH.

i see, so what would you recommend ?

Hrmm that would depend on many factors. Is this PvP or PvE? Solo, large group or small group? I run multiple arcane willpower sets and change them out depending on the situation. I did the same in 1.6 with cyrodiil light.

One of each for spellpower, one for cost reduction, and working on a regen set as well.

Kagrenac is a great crafted set, as is torugs if it fits. I don't have access to spell power cure so I opt for magicka over spell damage in some cases as with my CPs it provides almost as much damage.

I wouldn't craft torugs at this point, unless you're fine using v15 purple or something for the next few weeks. Julianos next patch will be the highest DPS magicka set by a large margin.

Assuming A bug does ruin julianos set for a few months

Yeah I'm totally testing that on PTS haha.

stonerskate109

Once julianos comes out overwhelming will be obsolete

Force-Siphon

Yeah agree with ezareth if you do kags at this point do v15 purple but only if you really have the money/mats to burn.

Julianos will be the new kags hope in a couple of weeks as others have said, at this point I would wait until update to do new gear and just save money/farm mats for now.

ChefZero

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Yeah agree with ezareth if you do kags at this point do v15 purple but only if you really have the money/mats to burn.

Julianos will be the new kags hope in a couple of weeks as others have said, at this point I would wait until update to do new gear and just save money/farm mats for now.

Don't think you should compare Julianos and Kgrenacs. They're to different in PvP.

zornyan

I think a decent setup will be

5x julianos
2x Torugs swords
1x kena
1x torugs armor
3x willpower jewellery.

People should be hitting very good dps magicka numbers with this kind of setup, as hundings rage has always been a powerful stam go-to setup.

PC0523

Just out of curiosity, what kind of numbers (specifically spell damage and magic recovery) are you guys putting out with your sets?

I'm currently running the sets listed below on an imperial nightblade and have about 2440 spell damage (unbuffed) on my DW bar and about 1250 magic recovery.

Martial Knowledge 4x VR14 Purple
Magnus 4/5x VR15 Purple
Willpower Jewelry 3x VR16 with Gold Spell Damage Glyphs

I'm considering the Molag Kena shoulders as well, but was concerned about losing too much magic recovery if I couldn't get the right sets together. I use this build for PvP and PvE.

zornyan

PC0523 wrote: »

Just out of curious it's, what kind of numbers (specifically spell damage and magic recovery) are you guys putting out with your sets?

I'm currently running the sets listed below on an imperial nightblade and have about 2440 spell damage (unbuffed) on my DW bar and about 1250 magic recovery.

Martial Knowledge 4x VR14 Purple
Magnus 4/5x VR15 Purple
Willpower Jewelry 3x VR16 with Gold Spell Damage Glyphs

I'm considering the Molag Kena shoulders as well, but was concerned about losing too much magic recovery if I couldn't get the right sets together. I use this build for PvP and PvE.

Most dps builds seem to hit around 38-40k magicka, with around 4-4.5k spell damage.

I'm sitting at 3800, due another 130 from kena, and another 100 when I get julianos.

Kwivur

Head = Malubeth for increased health, divines and max mag v16 gold, heavy
Shoulders = Molag Keena SD and WD, infused max mag v16 gold, light
Hands = Seducer, max mag, infused v16 gold, light
Legs = Seducer, max mag, infused v16 gold, medium
Chest = Seducer, max mag, infused v16 gold, heavy
Waist = Seducer, max mag, divines v16 gold, light
Feet = Torugs, max mag, infused v16 gold, light

Jewelry = 3x Willpower/SD Enchant Arcane.... Sometimes switch Necklace to Healthy. Just depends

DW Swords = Torugs, nirnhoned v16 gold
Resto Staff = Torugs, nirnhoned v16 gold

Magic = 42k
Health = 20.7k
SD = 2800 unbuffed
MR = 1800

This works fine for PvE.. I can run any PvE content with no problems. I know some of you will criticize, but that's fine.

PC0523

Wow, those are some nice spell damage numbers!!

I just hit VR16 last night and got lucky with my IC Trophy Vaults -- got my Willpower jewelry set in my first 2 chests. I was pretty happy with how my character was performing in IC and Cyrodiil last night, but now I'm starting to feel that he's woefully inadequate in comparison to the numbers you guys are posting.

I recognize that I still need to upgrade my gear, both in level and to gold quality. I was planning on waiting till Orsinium for the Julianos set, and basically go with the gear that Zornyan laid out above.

But in seeing the disparity between our spell damage numbers (~1400 less than Zornyan and ~400 less than Kwivur), I don't know if the new gear would even be sufficient. Do champion points play a factor in the Spell Damage number found on your character sheet?

I forgot to mention that I'm using the Atronach mundus stone for recovery, my build didn't feel sustainable without it. Thanks for the info, and hope I'm not hijacking this thread.

Kwivur

zornyan wrote: »

I think a decent setup will be

5x julianos
2x Torugs swords
1x kena
1x torugs armor
3x willpower jewellery.

People should be hitting very good dps magicka numbers with this kind of setup, as hundings rage has always been a powerful stam go-to setup.

That's what I'm aiming for... I just need the Julianos set

zornyan

PC0523 wrote: »

Wow, those are some nice spell damage numbers!!

I just hit VR16 last night and got lucky with my IC Trophy Vaults -- got my Willpower jewelry set in my first 2 chests. I was pretty happy with how my character was performing in IC and Cyrodiil last night, but now I'm starting to feel that he's woefully inadequate in comparison to the numbers you guys are posting.

I recognize that I still need to upgrade my gear, both in level and to gold quality. I was planning on waiting till Orsinium for the Julianos set, and basically go with the gear that Zornyan laid out above.

But in seeing the disparity between our spell damage numbers (~1400 less than Zornyan and ~400 less than Kwivur), I don't know if the new gear would even be sufficient. Do champion points play a factor in the Spell Damage number found on your character sheet?

I forgot to mention that I'm using the Atronach mundus stone for recovery, my build didn't feel sustainable without it. Thanks for the info, and hope I'm not hijacking this thread.

I'm only at 140cp, each cp adds a small amount into a resources, I think 10 points per blue star is about 100 of a stat, so not much really.

I switch my build around depending on pve or pvp, mainly just used a second set of willpower jewellery, I'm using 3x spell damage enchants, but use 2 different rings with cost reduction for pve sustain. Although it's easy enough to lay down channeled focus and weave a heavy Resto attack in for regen.

Personally I use the apprentice mundus, or sometimes the mage, both give near equal dps anyway from tooltip suggestions.

Gold gear makes a huge huge difference.

A vr16 purple crafted sword is 1100
A gold item is 1335

Same with gear etc, just save up the mats to make new sets once orsinium drops, I've already got them ready, that'll be my final build.

If you want a more solo Yolo pve build I'd swap julianos for seducer, the regen +8% cost reduction bonus will keep you going in pve solo fights for days on end.

Make sure to use 5 light 1 med 1 heavy for full undaunted 6% stat boost, and divines on all gear, except nirnhoned on swords.

If you want a bit more survivability switch 1 sword for a shield, and slot defensive stance, the passives will greatly reduce blocking cost, and the extra armor piece with another stat glyph will help keep you alive for longer.

Hell you could even use this for a more sustai /solo Yolo type build

1 torugs sword nirnhoned
1 torugs shield infused

5x Seducer infused
1 kena infused
1 torugs armor infused

3x willpower, 2 cost reduction 1 spell damage 2x arcane trait 1 healthy trait.

Using prismatic tri stat enchants on all gear.

Should leave you around 30k-33k magicka, 21-24k hp and 11-13k stamina depending on racial passives.

That would be a pretty solid build imo, hard to kill, plenty of resources and great survivability.

PC0523

Thanks Zornyan, very helpful info!

How much of each stat does the a gold prismatic enchant provide vs a gold single stat enchant?

And how high is your magic recovery (unbuffed) with your PVP build (if you don't mind me asking)?

zornyan

Think my magicka regen is at 800-850 unbuffed. Channeled focus gives me essentially 500 when in/near it, and another 20% from pots which I normally keep up in long fights.

Never had sustain issues in pvp, most people are dead before half my pool is gone, if not (due to them being a pure tank or shield stacker) it means their dps is that low I can comfortably heavy weave with my resto.

Magicka templar is the best anti glass cannon build imo, long as you're ready you'll survive any burst, heal immediately and be able to rip them apart.


As said in solo pve, like soloing all the craglorn delves etc with relative ease, switch out to a couple willpower sets with 2x cost reduction instead of 2x spell damage. You'll never have sustain issues.

If I remember correctly, an infused gold vr16 piece provides 1032? Of a single stat, I belive tri stats give 500-600, haven't tested them on a gold infused piece though.

Shizashane

This is what I use on my Nb healer/dps with what I currently have. 4 martial knowledge, molag Kenya, random drop helm, soulshine jewelry with spell dmg enchantment, tourgs pact duel wield. Focus more on spell pen over spell critical, and you should burn through people. Granted there other goodies I haven't gotten yet, but this is a basic easily acquired set up you could go for.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

PC0523 wrote: »

Wow, those are some nice spell damage numbers!!

I just hit VR16 last night and got lucky with my IC Trophy Vaults -- got my Willpower jewelry set in my first 2 chests. I was pretty happy with how my character was performing in IC and Cyrodiil last night, but now I'm starting to feel that he's woefully inadequate in comparison to the numbers you guys are posting.

I recognize that I still need to upgrade my gear, both in level and to gold quality. I was planning on waiting till Orsinium for the Julianos set, and basically go with the gear that Zornyan laid out above.

But in seeing the disparity between our spell damage numbers (~1400 less than Zornyan and ~400 less than Kwivur), I don't know if the new gear would even be sufficient. Do champion points play a factor in the Spell Damage number found on your character sheet?

I forgot to mention that I'm using the Atronach mundus stone for recovery, my build didn't feel sustainable without it. Thanks for the info, and hope I'm not hijacking this thread.

Spell damage numbers are subject to class/buff/proc disclosure - with or without buffs and procs and what class. Without food, pots and procs i have 2100 spell damage and 34 k magic pull ( on my DK). With those i have lot more coz i have 2 Molag kena, 5 Scathing , 3 willpower.

Waffennacht

Ohhh I want those armors and jewelry and glyphs.... i can just imagine.

Im currently running vet 14 purp seducer x5 and Twilight's embrace x4

My jewelry is pathetic, something like vet 9ish one blue and one green soulbond thingies I found.

I'm tryin a crit build, i just reached vet 15, have 2000 spell dmg, 71% crit with 1300 regen and (with food) 31k magic and 21k health

Can we buy these items (no one is around for me to do runs with)?