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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Vampire ultimate- clouding swarm or devouring swarm in PVP

Bats0828
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hey guys i just turned my khajiit stamina nightblade into vampire yesterday and i kinda like it more compare to being werewolf. which one do you think is better vampire ultimate for my build? is it the Devouring Swarm or Clouding swarm. will having mist in my bar along side cloak will help my build in being stealthy? especially in trying to get away from damage against multiple opponents. thanks in advance
  • Peel_Ya_Cap_517
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    I am wondering this as well... Are you still able to do attacks while in the Clouding Swarm?

    Thanks!
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  • Jitterbug
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    I prefer Clouding myself, and yes you're still able to do attacks.
  •  Jules
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    100% without a doubt you need to go clouding.

    Clouding = invisible = stealth = ^10% weapon damage while doing damage inside your invisbats.

    @xANTIxMATTERx pointed this out to me and the wreckage is unreal. So you're welcome in advance.
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Not meaning to be odd one out here but there we are:P

    I use Devouring Swarm and shred people with AoEs just to make sure, plus the healing helps if you do not want to give away your position using Vigour.

    Both are good IMO, just depends on your playstyle I suppose.
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  • Knootewoot
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    I used to have devouring swarm when I was vamp. The healing was nerfed. I find clouding now the better option. If you have a single target and you use clouding swarm+concealed weapon it is awesome.
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  • Bats0828
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    thanks for all your input guys. but i think i will go with clouding swarm for the extra stealth....
  • SmalltalkJava
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    interesting. I know this is a NB post, but would clouding also work well with a DW stamina Sorc? I like to pop crit surge and spin2win in pve.
    Edited by SmalltalkJava on 24 September 2015 12:22
  • leepalmer95
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    Nb's + Sorc = clouding

    Dk's + temp = Devouring

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  • Alucardo
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    8 guys were attacking a single vamp, she was low health cast devouring swarm and managed to fully refill her bar. Then she used mist form to get out of the area, stealth and jumped off the keep wall. We never saw her again.

    I hate Vampires, and also I'd go with devouring swarm based on what happened.
  • Master_Kas
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    Nb's + Sorc = clouding

    Dk's + temp = Devouring

    :D

    This !
    Edited by Master_Kas on 24 September 2015 13:38
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  • Hyssia
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    Clouding Swarm synergizes with the Master Assassin passive. You'll love it.
  • Akinos
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    I use devouring swarm as a magicka templar. It allows me to heal up in my main bar while dpsing with other skills. It really helps in IC too when you get mobs and other players on you, more sources to heal from :)
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  • Bats0828
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    Hyssia wrote: »
    Clouding Swarm synergizes with the Master Assassin passive. You'll love it.

    wow that would be nice. i hope i will be able to morph it to Clouding Swarm later
  • Wollust
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    Clouding Swarm and NBs have a great love for each other. :smile:
    But, devouring is also good. It comes down on how you play and what you prefer in the end, not everything is about min/max damage and stuff. I'd recommend trying both and see what suits your playstyle better.
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  • Wreuntzylla
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    8 guys were attacking a single vamp, she was low health cast devouring swarm and managed to fully refill her bar. Then she used mist form to get out of the area, stealth and jumped off the keep wall. We never saw her again.

    I hate Vampires, and also I'd go with devouring swarm based on what happened.

    You could use Dawnbreaker.

    And if you really wanted to kill them, you could use Dawnbreaker.

    Oh, and while I'm at it, let me mention Dawnbreaker.

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