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If dd werewolf cannot kill shield spamming sorc, then what can?

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Quady
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after one minute shield spamming arrived his friend and they killed me

At least, why shields are still not critable yet?
Edited by Quady on 8 September 2015 15:38
  • Huggalump
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    dots don't affect shields


    so there's that
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  • Tankqull
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    Huggalump wrote: »
    dots don't affect shields


    so there's that

    and even if it works its puny ~770 dps... thats not harming anyone at all ...

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    2 dots that that u can see, not even close to kill him
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  • Huggalump
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    no i mean dots literally don't do damage to shields. Shields don't take damage from dots
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  • Tankqull
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    Huggalump wrote: »
    no i mean dots literally don't do damage to shields. Shields don't take damage from dots

    thats not correct - but those two dots do not harm shields (others do).
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    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Quady
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    So now everyone should have that set for shield spamming sorcs?
    Someone told me that its gonna be nerfed, dont want to spend gold on it and than deconstruct it.
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    Does shield breaker apply to WW heavy/light attacks? That would be hilarious.
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  • Quady
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    You're talking like sorc cannot heal that 2k dps..
    If it can crit, maybe...
    Edited by Quady on 8 September 2015 16:05
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    Quady wrote: »
    You're talking like sorc cannot heal that 2k dps..
    If it can crit, maybe...

    Surely you have seen a Sorc get bursted down to 5k-10k health and then go into shield spam panic mode? 2k damage at that point where they are desperately spamming shields to save their last bit of health is critical to killing them.
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    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    Does shield breaker apply to WW heavy/light attacks? That would be hilarious.

    OMG, next 5000 Tel Var Stones, I test that :)
    Edited by EnOeZ on 8 September 2015 19:14
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Huggalump wrote: »
    no i mean dots literally don't do damage to shields. Shields don't take damage from dots

    thats not correct - but those two dots do not harm shields (others do).

    Ah OK. I'm still learning about it. How can you tell which dots do and don't affect shields?
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    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    This.

    If it doesn't then how is that a 'feature' and not a bug? Where does the damage go?
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    timidobserver wrote: »
    Does shield breaker apply to WW heavy/light attacks? That would be hilarious.

    OMG, next 5000 Tel Var Stones, I test that :)

    if you are on EU i'd happly give you 2 parts to help fund it, as long as a char of mine gets a little ww nibble hint hint :p
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    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    No. Get an NPC to Throw Dagger you then pop a healing/hardened ward. The shield absorbs the bleed.

    Oh, and OP, Dawnbreaker of Smiting.

    If the Sorc is any smart they'll have pumped the hell out of Thaumaturge in Ritual and that will wreck you the moment you get up close.
    Edited by Scyantific on 9 September 2015 00:33
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    Edited by Scyantific on 9 September 2015 00:33
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    No. Get an NPC to Throw Dagger you then pop a healing/hardened ward. The shield absorbs the bleed.

    Oh, and OP, Dawnbreaker of Smiting.

    If the Sorc is any smart they'll have pumped the hell out of Thaumaturge in Ritual and that will wreck you the moment you get up close.

    Notice I said should... not does...
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    timidobserver wrote: »
    Does shield breaker apply to WW heavy/light attacks? That would be hilarious.

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    Scyantific wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    No. Get an NPC to Throw Dagger you then pop a healing/hardened ward. The shield absorbs the bleed.

    Oh, and OP, Dawnbreaker of Smiting.

    If the Sorc is any smart they'll have pumped the hell out of Thaumaturge in Ritual and that will wreck you the moment you get up close.

    Neither is a Sorc "not smart" for investing into Elemental Expert more, nor is Dawnbreaker of Smiting even close to as dangerous now as it was in 1.6.
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    Huggalump wrote: »
    no i mean dots literally don't do damage to shields. Shields don't take damage from dots

    There are dots that will drain life away from underneath a ward. That's all I'm saying though.
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    Howl wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    This.

    If it doesn't then how is that a 'feature' and not a bug? Where does the damage go?

    Shield is a live thing that can bleed, u know ...:D
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    Quady wrote: »
    Howl wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »
    I've always thought bleeds should do damage straight to the healthpool.

    This.

    If it doesn't then how is that a 'feature' and not a bug? Where does the damage go?

    Shield is a live thing that can bleed, u know ...:D

    Shields are also a bandage that instantly stops you from bleeding, u know ..... :D
    Edited by Ahzek on 9 September 2015 13:56
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    Quady wrote: »
    animation canceling light attacks
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    scs5ddk4.png

    cc
    seh7ds2o.png

    after one minute shield spamming arrived his friend and they killed me

    At least, why shields are still not critable yet?

    Well, pre patch I used to *** those f..shieldspammers with 2 Howls

    Now its a bit harder, but its like this:

    If you kill him before he stands up from the kockback, then easy peasy
    If he still alive after standing up then you will have a problemo

    Dont apply DoTs, Only spam Howl of Agony+LA
    and enemies that stay close use Roar and then spam agony+LA because Roar gives howl a 30% dmg boost


    Here a video of WW PRE-PATCH, still works tho. Will soon do a build
    https://youtu.be/zBE4V3T8NiU
    Edited by Alcast on 9 September 2015 16:19
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  • Quady
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    Ahzek wrote: »
    Shields are also a bandage that instantly stops you from bleeding, u know ..... :D

    ya, pop up shield stop your bleeding, thats even bigger bu...... in this game

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