My Sorc Healing build.

Zsymon

I was wondering if this setup is viable for Cyrodil, IC, vet dungeons and the Arena (I don't do Trials).

Class: Sorcerer

49% spell crit (with Radiant Magelight)
2700 magicka recovery (with drinks a & potion buff)
25K max magicka
Some 13K health

5x Seducer
5x Healer
Master restoration staff

I basically planned on spamming Illustrious Healing (Master staff to give stamina), along with Hardened Ward, using Elusive Mist when things get hairy, and maybe Mutagen. I'll slot Barrier once I unlock it.

Any suggestions and advice are welcome.

Cinna

For vet dungeons and arena especially you should have some damage in the build too. I wonder if you are investing too much in regen at the cost of power.

ToRelax

For PvE, this is a ton of wasted magicka regen, better use food.
For PvE at least you should also use the Eyes of Mara set over Seducer.

For PvP, this is just too squishy, you need stamina management.

Leandor

Look into replacing Seducer with Eyes of Mara. Also, I agree that you put too much emphasis in regeneration. I would try to increase the base magicka pool over increasing regeneration that much. Maybe the switch from drink to food would be a good testing procedure.

Reason for that is that you still need some kind of defensive option, and a strong hardened ward will also prevent many interrupts from affecting you. In combination with cost reduce enchants on your jewellery, the sorcerer passives and the Mara set bonus, 1200 to 1500 magicka regen will allow you to spam Illustrous Healing indefinitely as well and makes the individual casts even stronger, thus reducing the burst death chance of your "healees".

ToRelax

Zsymon wrote: »

Thing is though I have almost 1300 stamina recovery now with blue drinks & potion buffs (also Vampire), if I use foods I will have to use the Arena set to manage my Break Frees, and then I lose a ton of magicka management since I won't be able to use either Eyes of Mara or Seducer.

I'm just not sure how to manage my stamina without either Arena Set or blue drinks. Vampire gives me 10% stamina recovery, potion gives me 20%, some champion points, plus the blue drinks is a lot of stamina recovery. If I don't have the blue drinks, and I don't have Arena set, my stamina will get wrecked. At least I think so.

You will get another 20% from having a deadric summoning ability slotted in the next update.
Personally, I think Healer+Seducer/Eyes of Mara is not needed for PvP.
You could for example try 5 Seducer/Eyes of Mara + 1 Bloodspawn + 2 Alessian + 2 Cyrodiils Light
or 5 Healer + 2 Engine Guardian + 3 Willow's Path
...or maybe 4 Healer + 1 Bloodspawn + 5 Willows Path. This sounds like a good solution to me.

Edit: One more thing, Kagrenacs Hope will be an awesome set next update as well. Could go with 5 Kagrenacs Hope + 4 Healer + 1 Bloodspawn or 5 Kagrenacs Hope 2 Alessian 2 Warlock 1 Bloodspawn.

Leandor

Maybe substituting two pieces medium armor into the mix may help - that also decreases cost of break free. Also you can use CP in Tumbling to compensate a bit of the loss of stamina regen. Remember that master's staff will also regen stamina on yourself. Tri-pots also partially make up for that.

With very strong shields, especially in 1.7 with the reduced burst, you also may have less need to immediately break free. At the end it's a matter of your playstyle. I do not necessarily think that your build needs improvement - if it works for you, stick to it.

My philosophy is more to maximize the effectiveness of a single healing spell, since the game is very much based upon burst damage. I feel more comfortable with that approach over a pure sustainability approach utilizing high regeneration rates.

Leandor

ToRelax wrote: »

Zsymon wrote: »

Thing is though I have almost 1300 stamina recovery now with blue drinks & potion buffs (also Vampire), if I use foods I will have to use the Arena set to manage my Break Frees, and then I lose a ton of magicka management since I won't be able to use either Eyes of Mara or Seducer.

I'm just not sure how to manage my stamina without either Arena Set or blue drinks. Vampire gives me 10% stamina recovery, potion gives me 20%, some champion points, plus the blue drinks is a lot of stamina recovery. If I don't have the blue drinks, and I don't have Arena set, my stamina will get wrecked. At least I think so.

You will get another 20% from having a deadric summoning ability slotted in the next update.
Personally, I think Healer+Seducer/Eyes of Mara is not needed for PvP.
You could for example try 5 Seducer/Eyes of Mara + 1 Bloodspawn + 2 Alessian + 2 Cyrodiils Light
or 5 Healer + 2 Engine Guardian + 3 Willow's Path
...or maybe 4 Healer + 1 Bloodspawn + 5 Willows Path. This sounds like a good solution to me.

Edit: One more thing, Kagrenacs Hope will be an awesome set next update as well. Could go with 5 Kagrenacs Hope + 4 Healer + 1 Bloodspawn or 5 Kagrenacs Hope 2 Alessian 2 Warlock 1 Bloodspawn.

Just saw your edit, and I agree. That's what I am going to run on my templar come patch, 5 healer, 5 kagrenac, 2 torug (or 2 molag kena, if i get them).

Scyantific

Hi, V14 Sorc Healer/DPS here. I've used this setup for every single vet dungeon, and it's only failed me once on vCoA

(note: I have 200+ CP so this YMMV)

Armor (5x Light 1x Heavy 1x Medium for Undaunted Mettle Bonus):

• 4x Martial Knowledge
• 2x Adroitness
• 2x Cyrodiil Rings
• 3x Torug's
• Primary Bar is Heal Staff, Secondary Bar is Dual Swords

56% Spell Crit with Inner Light
2400 Spell Damage with Power Surge
1300 Magicka Recovery
34k Magicka on Heal Bar/33k Magicka on Attack Bar
19k Health on Primary Bar (22k if I go for Structured Entropy over Combat Prayer)

Healing Ward pops for an average of 9k, Combat Prayer hits for an average of 7k

Healing Springs for mana return, Rapid Regeneration for rolling HoTs (these are a god send when needing to drop wards on multiple people), Healing Ward for "oh crap" moments, Combat Prayer/Structured Entropy.
Secondary bar is situation dependent (I use Wykkyd's skillbar swapper). AoEs for trash mobs, and Crystal Frags, Velocious Curse, and Mage's Wrath for bosses/minibosses.
Ultimate on secondary bar is Energy Overload (with dual swords this hits for about 25k a hit and is my bread and butter damage dealer). Primary Ultimate is usually Suppression Field for CC-ing trash mobs or helping the tank out with damage redux (plus it clears the white flames away in vetEH).
Power Surge on secondary bar for boosted Spell Damage.

E: Forgot to mention. I use this setup whenever my guildmates want to 3-man a dungeon that isn't VCoA, no deaths almost every time (and this is with a DPS that thinks it's a good idea to melee Engine Guardian).

Fraltic

im interested in knowing how well this works because i would like to try healing without having to make a 3rd alt. the quests are no fun for a 3rd time.

Zsymon

Fraltic wrote: »

im interested in knowing how well this works because i would like to try healing without having to make a 3rd alt. the quests are no fun for a 3rd time.

Well at V2, so far I can do vet dungeons without much problems, I just spam Illustrious Healing endlessly, and as long as people stay inside the circle or don't get one-shot, they don't die. With Illustrious Healing you get a lot more heal-over-time than with Healing Springs, which makes up for low power, and I don't need the magicka return from Healing Springs because I never run out of magicka anyway.

Zsymon

ToRelax wrote: »

For PvE, this is a ton of wasted magicka regen, better use food.
For PvE at least you should also use the Eyes of Mara set over Seducer.

For PvP, this is just too squishy, you need stamina management.

I have about 1200 stamina recovery, I'm not sure how else I can improve stamina management. I guess with the Arena set? But to be honest I can break free every 5 seconds already now, if I don't block more than once or twice in that time.

Zsymon

Thing is though I have almost 1300 stamina recovery now with blue drinks & potion buffs (also Vampire), if I use foods I will have to use the Arena set to manage my Break Frees, and then I lose a ton of magicka management since I won't be able to use either Eyes of Mara or Seducer.

I'm just not sure how to manage my stamina without either Arena Set or blue drinks. Vampire gives me 10% stamina recovery, potion gives me 20%, some champion points, plus the blue drinks is a lot of stamina recovery. If I don't have the blue drinks, and I don't have Arena set, my stamina will get wrecked. At least I think so. Right now I got stamina up the whazoo, it doesn't run out unless I block too many unnecessary attacks.

Zsymon

Thanks for the advice, I will try it out.

Leandor

You're welcome

Tell us how it worked out for you. Always good to have a sounding board.

Zsymon

How did Kagrenac's Hope change?

ToRelax

Zsymon wrote: »

How did Kagrenac's Hope change?

It got a substantial spell damage bonus (over 200 on v14 gold) on the 5 piece bonus (additionally).

Zsymon

Thanks Scyantific, appreciate it.