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Best solo class to gank players in imperial city

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Hey all,

What class do you think Will be most succesfull in stealing the new curreny ?
  • Tankqull
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    NB
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  • Armann
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    Everyone should roll a NB in preparation for IC, the more the merrier!
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    Nb archer
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  • eliisra
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    With the nerf to perma-dodge and Bolt Escape, only NB's will be able to gank in IC.

    Mist Form is not an escape skill, since you're still target locked and not actually invisible.

    This leaves us with so many interesting options. Should I play NB or maybe NB?

    But for sure, also depends on devs ability to "fix" or buff cloak. Wouldn't be surprised if it still breaks for some unbelievable reason.
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    Magicka NB, perma cloak high damage. You need to retreat back to safezone to deposit TV stones? You can perma cloak all the way there. Unlike stealth you can even go through enemies and it wont reveal.
    Edited by Araxleon on 19 July 2015 17:38
  • ToRelax
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    NB, with Sorc still well above DK/Templar.
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    How about you grow a pair and fight straight up? Why all the hiding, what are you afraid of?
  • Roselle
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    Templar

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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    You dont get how IC is going to work. You wont be soloing anything. There will be a guild there controlling the whole area. If you dare try to take any stones you wont make it two steps before you are killed by 20-30 people.
  • PeggymoeXD
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    After the nerf to dodge roll and detect potions, nightblades are going to be god-mode.
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    You dont get how IC is going to work. You wont be soloing anything. There will be a guild there controlling the whole area. If you dare try to take any stones you wont make it two steps before you are killed by 20-30 people.

    Yes. Multi faction pvp guilds will have a blast.
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  • Leandor
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    Where is my LOL button when I need it... This whole topic makes be barf-by-laughing.

    Btw, I'm fast tracking my magicka DK because the survivability it has will make sure that I am one of those still standing if my group wins.

    Still not totally sold, though. Maybe I will also go with a heavy armor magicka templar. With a bit of health stacking that could also work out nicely. Bows don't provide armor penetration and my proximity will take care of the rest...

    On the other hand, with this being a city environment, I would guess that the LOS game is fantastic. So maybe I go vamp sorcerer... blink around the corner, mist to the next, blink again and no one will follow me.

    All of this conjecture just because of an ability, that can be broken by the AI mobs in there? Come on, cloak is not godmode, no matter how often you postulate that.
    Edited by Leandor on 21 July 2015 07:48
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    You dont get how IC is going to work. You wont be soloing anything. There will be a guild there controlling the whole area. If you dare try to take any stones you wont make it two steps before you are killed by 20-30 people.

    Yes. Multi faction pvp guilds will have a blast.

    Ya those 100 or so people will have a blast. The rest of the 1000s will not.
  • Kas
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    imho a group of ~4 with detection pots, a streak sorc and caltrops plowing through hordes of solo NB's. Just gotta avoid bigger groups. No idea how the bruth nerf will work out, maybe someone has to run radiant magelight.
    Edited by Kas on 21 July 2015 12:05
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  • Sykis
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    Each class has their ups and downs. I'm excited to see what players come up with. I will mostly be using a NB and Templar. But looking at the video feed, I would venture to say simply killing an opposing faction member might only reward me with 10 mobs trying to kill me or other factions trying to do the same. Seems face to face with a small organized group is the way to go here. We will see after PTS and then what ever changes are made after that.
    Edited by Sykis on 21 July 2015 12:21
  • Suntzu1414
    I think we should all play NB.

    this eliminates the need for nerfs.....:P
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  • Eejit1331
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Where is my LOL button when I need it... This whole topic makes be barf-by-laughing.

    Btw, I'm fast tracking my magicka DK because the survivability it has will make sure that I am one of those still standing if my group wins.

    Still not totally sold, though. Maybe I will also go with a heavy armor magicka templar. With a bit of health stacking that could also work out nicely. Bows don't provide armor penetration and my proximity will take care of the rest...

    On the other hand, with this being a city environment, I would guess that the LOS game is fantastic. So maybe I go vamp sorcerer... blink around the corner, mist to the next, blink again and no one will follow me.

    All of this conjecture just because of an ability, that can be broken by the AI mobs in there? Come on, cloak is not godmode, no matter how often you postulate that.

    Lol... you couldn't fill a post with more lies if you tried. Nice trick! We all see what you did there. Yeah, cloak not OP.. ;)
  • Eejit1331
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    Kas wrote: »
    imho a group of ~4 with detection pots, a streak sorc and caltrops plowing through hordes of solo NB's. Just gotta avoid bigger groups. No idea how the bruth nerf will work out, maybe someone has to run radiant magelight.

    Another NB Player. Welcome to the majority. I'm not hating on you... you just want to keep you opness. I'm just keeping real. I will be on my magicka NB since my sorc is going to look like mr. sneaky nuts.
    Edited by Eejit1331 on 21 July 2015 15:25
  • k2blader
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    You dont get how IC is going to work. You wont be soloing anything. There will be a guild there controlling the whole area. If you dare try to take any stones you wont make it two steps before you are killed by 20-30 people.

    Yes I think you're right. Or smaller groups comprised of unkillable tank builds. I dunno how Zeni plans to combat the zerging in IC; maybe they don't, lol.

    Anyway, to seriously answer the OP:

    NB

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  • Xael
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    gresiac wrote: »
    Hey all,

    What class do you think Will be most succesfull in stealing the new curreny ?

    Lag.
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Xqluded
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    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player
  • Xael
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    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • ToRelax
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    Xael wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.

    Have you been dueling with large amounts and differences of CP on PTS?
    Your statement is so naive it's mind boggling.
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  • Xael
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.

    Have you been dueling with large amounts and differences of CP on PTS?
    Your statement is so naive it's mind boggling.

    No, I live and play in the present where CP is not amassed in the thousands and everyone above level 49 are actively gaining CP as they play. The people you see 1vX decimating players are just good at the game and hardly the CP juggernauts these fear mongering concerns make them out to be. I have yet to see a guy in Cyrodiil winning fights based on a horde of CP.
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Xqluded
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    Xael wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.

    Have you been dueling with large amounts and differences of CP on PTS?
    Your statement is so naive it's mind boggling.

    No, I live and play in the present where CP is not amassed in the thousands and everyone above level 49 are actively gaining CP as they play. The people you see 1vX decimating players are just good at the game and hardly the CP juggernauts these fear mongering concerns make them out to be. I have yet to see a guy in Cyrodiil winning fights based on a horde of CP.

    You don't go to Cyrodiil much do you?
  • ToRelax
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    Xael wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.

    Have you been dueling with large amounts and differences of CP on PTS?
    Your statement is so naive it's mind boggling.

    No, I live and play in the present where CP is not amassed in the thousands and everyone above level 49 are actively gaining CP as they play. The people you see 1vX decimating players are just good at the game and hardly the CP juggernauts these fear mongering concerns make them out to be. I have yet to see a guy in Cyrodiil winning fights based on a horde of CP.

    Well I take that as a compliment, but as it looks now, CP will be a problem sooner rather than later if ZOS does not do something against it. You said they never will be a problem - well today it is a small problem that grows constantly.
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  • Xqluded
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    @Xael

    I used to think CP was just a way for people to complain about getting wrecked because they were horrible. Until I played on Xbox and watched a group of 15-20 fresh v10-14's get wiped by ONE v14 PC transfer.

    Now I don't care how bad those fresh vet 14s were. That big of a group should have buried him. Non emperor nightblade by the way. I will post the upload of it as soon as the buddy I know that has it checks his mail and responds.

    CP is and always will be the death of PVP
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    NB by far. You are going to have to manage to blindly AoE them in order to even be able to see them.
    Edited by timidobserver on 21 July 2015 22:04
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  • Xael
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be on the NB wagon like everyone else. It's not going to be the class its going to be the guy that has no life and farms 1000 more CP than you. No different from right now.

    If CP was not an issue:

    Point blank.......

    The better player

    DK too op. Emp too op. Vamp too op. DK Vamp too op. DK Emp too op. DK Vamp Emp too op. Bolt Escape too op. Sorcs too op. Vigor too op. NB too op. Beavis beam too op. CP too op. Cloak too op... for goodness sake people, stop whining.

    CP is not a problem and never will be. It has huge diminishing returns after a certain point and even Joe Casual will catch up making gains where those with 1k CP barely crawl. Zerg, lag, and player skill will ALWAYS outperform.

    Have you been dueling with large amounts and differences of CP on PTS?
    Your statement is so naive it's mind boggling.

    No, I live and play in the present where CP is not amassed in the thousands and everyone above level 49 are actively gaining CP as they play. The people you see 1vX decimating players are just good at the game and hardly the CP juggernauts these fear mongering concerns make them out to be. I have yet to see a guy in Cyrodiil winning fights based on a horde of CP.

    Well I take that as a compliment, but as it looks now, CP will be a problem sooner rather than later if ZOS does not do something against it. You said they never will be a problem - well today it is a small problem that grows constantly.

    I try and not worry about things which are that far off.
    Take the popular streamers... ________ for example. If you watch his streams or videos notice he does not have that much CP. When he dies it's never because of some CP juggernaut. It's because he lagged, got zerged, or simply screwed up or made bad decisions. I am the same way. I almost always know why I died and not once can I attribute it to CP levels. Granted my experience is subjective, but nonetheless, zergs/lag will always be the defining factor in the group PvP.

    I am more concerned with lag and the upcoming launch of imperial city. A lot of people are on their way out of this game and another ZOS failure (particularly no fix for the Cyro lag) will definitely be the death knell for a lot of vet pvpers. While I do have concerns over the future of the CP system, I find it to be a slippery slope not worth losing sleep over (at this time).
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
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