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The Bolt Escape Counter Potion

RinaldoGandolphi
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I probably should not say this but Bolt Escape has a very easy counter. So to the Nightblades who say Bolt Escape can't be countered by a Potion but Cloak can, to put this to rest I give you:
    Bolt Escape Counter Potion
    [*] Blessed Thistle
    [*] Columbine
    [*] Namira's Rot


    Effects
    Restore Stamina and Increase Stamina Regen by 20%
    Become Immune to Knockback and Disabling effects for 15 secs
    Grants Major Expedition Increasing Movement Speed by 40% for 40 secs

    There you go, Every Sorc in the game using Bolt Escape just became cannon fodder. He can't stun you with Streak or BOL, You can run like the wind thanks to Major Expedition and combined with a dodge roll with a bow equipped, 40 secs of Flash like speed, and you can spam Critical Rush or a gap closer of your choice to your hearts content and ride his back clear across Cyrodiil to his death without any fear of being CC, stunned, or any of that.

    Does it get any easier? Now you don't even have to hold block while Crit Charging. You don't even have to worry about running out of stamina. So yes Bolt Escape does have a potion that counters it. Now go, drink these potions, and spam that Crit Charge to your hearts content at every Sorc you see, feel like a god, no one escapes eh? :)

    Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on 13 July 2015 16:38
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    Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

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    • Garion
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      GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC. IT IS NOT WELCOME.

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    • RinaldoGandolphi
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      Garion wrote: »
      GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC. IT IS NOT WELCOME.

      huehue

      im sorry...

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      Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)

      "Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak

    • Bashev
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      And if I dont use a bow? Hos will this potion help me?
      Because I can!
    • Erock25
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      Bashev wrote: »
      And if I dont use a bow? Hos will this potion help me?

      Potion plus gap closers should work well.
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    • Gorthax
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      Why would you tell people this(i dont care if you do tell people :P they will still cry nerf nerf nerf)....they only like to cry instead of using their brains.... "Thinking are is hard be it yes! I are wants easy buttons pressing of things!"
      Edited by Gorthax on 13 July 2015 17:44
    • Bashev
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      Gorthax wrote: »
      Why would you tell people this(i dont care if you do tell people :P they will still cry nerf nerf nerf)....they only like to cry instead of using their brains.... "Thinking are is hard be it yes! I are wants easy buttons pressing of things!"
      Now when you are on the top of the food chain you complain that people are calling for nerfs. You forget what was before 1.6 when all sors was calling for the DK nerfs. They reflect all our skills they block what is not reflectable, they use impenetrable and we cannot use our only self heal and so on and so on.
      Because I can!
    • ToRelax
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      Bashev wrote: »
      Gorthax wrote: »
      Why would you tell people this(i dont care if you do tell people :P they will still cry nerf nerf nerf)....they only like to cry instead of using their brains.... "Thinking are is hard be it yes! I are wants easy buttons pressing of things!"
      Now when you are on the top of the food chain you complain that people are calling for nerfs. You forget what was before 1.6 when all sors was calling for the DK nerfs. They reflect all our skills they block what is not reflectable, they use impenetrable and we cannot use our only self heal and so on and so on.

      How about changing impenetrable like they did, buffing Mines and fixing Volatile Familiar?
      Sorcs were weak in some situations because of non class game mechanics and their own skills, not because of DKs.
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    • k2blader
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      Bashev wrote: »
      Gorthax wrote: »
      Why would you tell people this(i dont care if you do tell people :P they will still cry nerf nerf nerf)....they only like to cry instead of using their brains.... "Thinking are is hard be it yes! I are wants easy buttons pressing of things!"
      Now when you are on the top of the food chain you complain that people are calling for nerfs. You forget what was before 1.6 when all sors was calling for the DK nerfs. They reflect all our skills they block what is not reflectable, they use impenetrable and we cannot use our only self heal and so on and so on.

      So when 1.6 came out, apparently so many people refused to block, dodge roll, or reflect against sorcs, that sorcs became "top of the food chain"? Also with most PvPers using nirn now, convincing themselves "it's only rite cuz sorcs r 2 much," I laugh at anyone who is still crying about sorcs or magicka builds in general.

      What I actually thought would be appropriate with scales was for it to receive the bolt escape treatment with increasing cost for being "spammed" which was what DKs were doing-- and with it being able to reflect projectiles and spells that really was over the top. Any DK who disagrees is delusional. :-P

      But it's ok, you've had nirn for 3+ months now and ought to be having fun with stam builds. Once nirn's fixed you'll probably enjoy DK magicka builds again on the rise.
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    • JDar
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      Only problem with this potion is that namira's rot is a little tough to find.
    • Vostorn
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      Things Shadow Cloak can't do :
      • TP in large groups of enemies and stun those who don't block (there will be more in next update because of the regen)
      • Bring you back to your allies in a second in a much safer place than a nb will be with Shadow Cloak
      In addition, shadow cloak is countered by only one potion drinker and he can drink it only when needed.
      Bolt Escape on the other hand will force many people to drink a potion or to stay blocking, preventing them from regenerating. And as mentioned above, Namira's Root is quiet rare.
    • Cinnamon_Spider
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      Namira's Rot is only "rare" because people pick flowers, but walk past mushrooms. If you start picking those as well, then it isn't an issue.
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