Is there still shield bash cheesing in PvP?

Baconjedi

Hey guys, I recently re-bought ESO for the PS4 because I didn't like the PC controls but I'm an hour-1 veteran and I'll just jump right into the subject. I used to PvP a ton when I got to Veteran 1 about 3 months into the games launch on PC and I noticed that shield bashing was all over the place and everyone did it. At that time, it seemed kind of cheese since on PC I was a melee Dragon Knight and couldn't do much against it. I'm not the best player I know and there are probably a ton of builds at the time that could have countered it, but it was still a pain in the Arsegonian.
Does it still do tons of damage, or did they nerf it in PvP combat?

shadowcoder

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

Baconjedi

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

Awesome, thank you. As dumb as this might sound, I stopped PvPing because of it. I was guessing it changed since it's been a full year and I'm probably not the only one complaining about it.

Shunravi

Baconjedi wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

Awesome, thank you. As dumb as this might sound, I stopped PvPing because of it. I was guessing it changed since it's been a full year and I'm probably not the only one complaining about it.

they patched that out a looong time ago.

bowmanz607

Still love doing it to ppl trying to get in a keep door. Lol. Still makes me laugh every time

ToRelax

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

Docmandu

It's also still used for animation cancelling.

Tankqull

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

ToRelax

Tankqull wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

Ehm, yes, of course. Looks like I forgot the most important part ^^.

Soris

Shield bash builds are REAL atm.

Tankqull wrote: »

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

^this + Twin sisters + Camo hunter = stupidly fast hits per second and so insane dps

Baconjedi

So... half of you are saying it was fixed, the other half is saying it's thriving...
At this point, the only way to truly find out is to get into Cyrodiil and get a shield bashed to my face and check the damage.

Soris

Baconjedi wrote: »

So... half of you are saying it was fixed, the other half is saying it's thriving...
At this point, the only way to truly find out is to get into Cyrodiil and get a shield bashed to my face and check the damage.

only when you built for it.

Bane_of_Fringe

Baconjedi wrote: »

Hey guys, I recently re-bought ESO for the PS4 because I didn't like the PC controls but I'm an hour-1 veteran and I'll just jump right into the subject. I used to PvP a ton when I got to Veteran 1 about 3 months into the games launch on PC and I noticed that shield bashing was all over the place and everyone did it. At that time, it seemed kind of cheese since on PC I was a melee Dragon Knight and couldn't do much against it. I'm not the best player I know and there are probably a ton of builds at the time that could have countered it, but it was still a pain in the Arsegonian.
Does it still do tons of damage, or did they nerf it in PvP combat?

No, they fixed that at release, now you can do ok damage with bash though, given you're a weapon damage stacked stamina build...ok being 3k-4k ish, which isn't even close to real burst.

olsborg

eu has a dc shieldbasher

Tankqull

olsborg wrote: »

eu has a dc shieldbasher

its the guy on that screen of me, those 5 attacks were delivered in one second regarding the CLS time stamps...
hes able to hit you 3-8 times per second on a regular base, the dmg of each is ok but having 8x 2.5k + crits + procs becomes insane bursts...

Gopatshah

Is there still shield bash cheesing in PvP?

yes, there is (atm)!

iam bashing through cyrodiil with my main (occor nacall ->dc/eu) DK at the moment.

if you are going for a bashbuild you should hurry up... with the next major update the bashbuild won't work anymore.
stamina reg get removed during blocking ("play the way you want"... well ZoS lying :P ) ... because PvE tanks only stand in block and say: OH! that's boring... OFC it is boring, but it looks like these guys dont understand how trials/arena ect. are working... it's a dps race! a good tank should try to tank & deal damage.
oh well, sorry for this litte off topic^^

btw. it looks like they shadow patched the bash animation (it was quite faster a few patches ago | the bash animation was superior fast @ 1.6)

if you want to try the bashbuild before it's getting useless i can post you my current build to help you out.
the build isn't maxed out... there is no point to invest more time/gold to test this build... >.>

Tankqull wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

uh! maybe i know this player!

Bashev

Tankqull wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

Maximum bash attacks are 5 bashes for 2 seconds.

Shader_Shibes

Does said players name begin with B and end in ombajnova

Tankqull

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Does said players name begin with B and end in ombajnova

nearly the starting letter is different... (but if i´m not wrong in the kyrillian alphabet it would be a B )

Bashev wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

Maximum bash attacks are 5 bashes for 2 seconds.

well CLS tells me different numbers


that guy again the 8xx attack is prolly a weapon proc otherwise the dmg fluctuation aint explainable... but its 5 bashes in the first sec. and 3 in the second sec. where i roled through him(negating a few others).

Most_Awesome

Shield bashing is a thing of the past, but there is still a few players who build for it. Like Bashanova (what I call him in guild chat) he plays 24/7 so you will come across him a lot of the time.

NB Ambush>bash>bash>bash>bash his bash crits my sorc 5k it's complete and utter cheese but it's a very effective 1v1 and open world build mix in caltrops and fear.......and yes I hate the guy lol

Bashev

Tankqull wrote: »

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Does said players name begin with B and end in ombajnova

nearly the starting letter is different... (but if i´m not wrong in the kyrillian alphabet it would be a B )

Bashev wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

shadowcoder wrote: »

No, shield bashing is only used for interupting someone, like it is supposed to be. It no longer deals insane damage.

HAHAHA...

ToRelax wrote: »

Actually shieldbashing builds came back with 1.6, mainly because of the champion system and the buffs to stamina builds.
It's nowhere near what it used to be at launch, but it can be pretty strong.

and the fact that it got some cheesy animation issues allowing up to 4-8 bashs per second...

Maximum bash attacks are 5 bashes for 2 seconds.

well CLS tells me different numbers


that guy again the 8xx attack is prolly a weapon proc otherwise the dmg fluctuation aint explainable... but its 5 bashes in the first sec. and 3 in the second sec. where i roled through him(negating a few others).

I use a bash build and I can say that the maximum bash attacks are 5 for 2 seconds. In the log probably there is some skill + light attack + enchant proc.

heystreethawk

Bear in mind I have never seen a bash thread, let alone a bash build, before this very moment: I do not believe shield bashing will be a problem for you in this modern age. It is under no circumstances thriving as a viable primary attack.