Gear For Healer

Valrien

Hi everyone, my VR11 Sorcerer has decided to pick up a resto staff and start healing. I'm coming up to the point when ear matters most (v12-14) so Id like to get some opinions on setups. Right now I'm looking at 5 Worm Cult, 3 Blessing of the Ancients, and 2 Nightflame. My question is this: Is that good? Specifically, is Nightflame good? Is there anything better I can wear? Thank you in advance!

~Valrien

SienneYviete

Nightflames set is pretty meh tbh, in a fast moving fight it almost never procs where it's needed 5 x healers habit 2 x torugs and 4 x martial knowledge is a much better setup for a healer.

Tadhg_Longhouse

5x Healers Habit is a good option. Especially for Templar healers.

My experience as a sorcerer healer is that your ability to sustain healing springs without using magicka is almost more important that spell damage. As all sorcerer healing comes from Restoration staff abilities, the 12% cost reduction of Eyes of Mara is worth considering.

I currently run 4x healers habit (jewels+shoes), 5x eyes of mara and 2xtorugs

If I decided to use a master's resto staff I'd switch out the torugs and make it 5 healers 5 eyes.

I'm losing out on an extra spell damage, but I get extra magicka regen which means I can spam healing springs on a group for almost no magicka cost. I only need to spend magicka to throw someone healing ward when they take a big hit. Otherwise I focus on debuffing the boss, dropping combat prayers and a bit of damage when I can to end the fight quicker.

This is only in VR12 dungeons, but no one is interested in sorc healers in trials right now.

Valrien

Tadhg_Longhouse wrote: »

5x Healers Habit is a good option. Especially for Templar healers.

My experience as a sorcerer healer is that your ability to sustain healing springs without using magicka is almost more important that spell damage. As all sorcerer healing comes from Restoration staff abilities, the 12% cost reduction of Eyes of Mara is worth considering.

I currently run 4x healers habit (jewels+shoes), 5x eyes of mara and 2xtorugs

If I decided to use a master's resto staff I'd switch out the torugs and make it 5 healers 5 eyes.

I'm losing out on an extra spell damage, but I get extra magicka regen which means I can spam healing springs on a group for almost no magicka cost. I only need to spend magicka to throw someone healing ward when they take a big hit. Otherwise I focus on debuffing the boss, dropping combat prayers and a bit of damage when I can to end the fight quicker.

This is only in VR12 dungeons, but no one is interested in sorc healers in trials right now.

I was thinking something like this as well, but instead of Mara, what do you think of Worm Cult? It's a lot harder to grind for, but it will give even more group utility by reducing EVERYONE'S magicka costs by 5%. Perhaps 5 Healer, 5 Worm, Master Weapons?

Tadhg_Longhouse

Depends on a lot of things really:

How many other group members will be using magicka abilities to get the most of the 5% reduction?

Is your regen enough that you can last without the extra 8% reduction plus extra regen gained from Eyes.

Is your healing enough without extra spell damage from martial knowledge?

Ultimately you're probably going to have to rely on what you have available to you without grinding dungeons in order to get other gear. So perhaps finding some cheap healers and martial gear from a guild store then see if you can fine tune from there. If you're finding you run out of magicka easily, work in more regen, for example.

More important than us telling you what the best gear sets are is more being aware of your options and making it work for you. You may just focus on max magicka and spell damage, then use drinks for magicka regen. I still personally prefer using food buffs, but it's what works for you that matters.

Valrien

Tadhg_Longhouse wrote: »

Depends on a lot of things really:

How many other group members will be using magicka abilities to get the most of the 5% reduction?

Is your regen enough that you can last without the extra 8% reduction plus extra regen gained from Eyes.

Is your healing enough without extra spell damage from martial knowledge?

Ultimately you're probably going to have to rely on what you have available to you without grinding dungeons in order to get other gear. So perhaps finding some cheap healers and martial gear from a guild store then see if you can fine tune from there. If you're finding you run out of magicka easily, work in more regen, for example.

More important than us telling you what the best gear sets are is more being aware of your options and making it work for you. You may just focus on max magicka and spell damage, then use drinks for magicka regen. I still personally prefer using food buffs, but it's what works for you that matters.

Well I already have V14 MK and Healer gear for my DPS setup, so those are available right away.

TheSunAlsoRises

i'm a templar and i currently use 5/5 healer and 5/5 warlock. i don't think i've ever run out of magicka yet. i got the healer rings from DSA but the healer set pieces i picked up in guild stores and improved to epic. up until v12 i was running low vet warlock (4/5 or 5/5), 2 seducer and 2 necromancer. most were greens but the regen was so helpful. for me, magick regen > spell power. i keep magelight on the bar so my spell crit is somewhere between 45-55% depending on my PvP buffs which helps. that and keeping entropy buff augments my ~1200 spell power or whatever i'm currently i'm sitting at.

i've tried tooling around with martial knowledge in the mix but i stick to healer/warlock at the moment. if i ever get the helm, i might try playing around with nightflame but at this point, i can pretty much afk heal with my insta heal.

f047ys3v3n

Best healer gear:

3 peice healing mage jewelry from AA - Really, the weapon damage debuff is more than worth it. Keep your squishes alive in trash and give the tank a break. Honestly, I think any templar that has these should wear them whenever he has breath on the bar. The debuff is really good. I should also note this set appears to drop at a much lower rate than all others from coffers and weeklies. I have only 4 peices, all purple, and I have some 50 or 60 gold AA / Hel ra weeklies. Bad luck, maybe but maybe also low drop rate.

5 peice worm cult - the 5% cost reduction for group members is well worth it.

Masters resto staff - This is unequivocally the best masters weapon. Stamina is what almost everybody runs these days as post 1.6 is grossly unbalanced in the pro stamina dps direction. Your mostly stamina group will appreciate the extra resources. So will your magica users as they can only block about 3 hits before being out of stamina and anything you can do to help them survive in trash (which is far more likely to kill a good Magica dps than a boss) is good.

2 Torugs or 2 Seducer - The last 2 peices really depend on how many CP you have. If you have enough to not need more regen go with the more spell power of Torugs, if you need the regen go with Seducer. If you have a whole lot of regen go with the legs and chest in Trougs and make them in heavy. Then maybe you stay alive a bit longer as you will only be half as squishy. If you log in and find Nirnhoned still gives 24% spell resist to your whole set be sure to use this. If they have fixed this crazy OP stupid idea that makes spell users completely useless in PVP go with infused. I'm not kidding about the heavy. You really should consider it as magica users are so squishy and to heal you have to be a magica user.

Valrien

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Best healer gear:

3 peice healing mage jewelry from AA - Really, the weapon damage debuff is more than worth it. Keep your squishes alive in trash and give the tank a break. Honestly, I think any templar that has these should wear them whenever he has breath on the bar. The debuff is really good. I should also note this set appears to drop at a much lower rate than all others from coffers and weeklies. I have only 4 peices, all purple, and I have some 50 or 60 gold AA / Hel ra weeklies. Bad luck, maybe but maybe also low drop rate.

5 peice worm cult - the 5% cost reduction for group members is well worth it.

Masters resto staff - This is unequivocally the best masters weapon. Stamina is what almost everybody runs these days as post 1.6 is grossly unbalanced in the pro stamina dps direction. Your mostly stamina group will appreciate the extra resources. So will your magica users as they can only block about 3 hits before being out of stamina and anything you can do to help them survive in trash (which is far more likely to kill a good Magica dps than a boss) is good.

2 Torugs or 2 Seducer - The last 2 peices really depend on how many CP you have. If you have enough to not need more regen go with the more spell power of Torugs, if you need the regen go with Seducer. If you have a whole lot of regen go with the legs and chest in Trougs and make them in heavy. Then maybe you stay alive a bit longer as you will only be half as squishy. If you log in and find Nirnhoned still gives 24% spell resist to your whole set be sure to use this. If they have fixed this crazy OP stupid idea that makes spell users completely useless in PVP go with infused. I'm not kidding about the heavy. You really should consider it as magica users are so squishy and to heal you have to be a magica user.

So it looks like no matter what I use I'm gonna have a lot of grinding to do. Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can manage to snag these items.

f047ys3v3n

Valrien wrote: »

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Best healer gear:

3 peice healing mage jewelry from AA - Really, the weapon damage debuff is more than worth it. Keep your squishes alive in trash and give the tank a break. Honestly, I think any templar that has these should wear them whenever he has breath on the bar. The debuff is really good. I should also note this set appears to drop at a much lower rate than all others from coffers and weeklies. I have only 4 peices, all purple, and I have some 50 or 60 gold AA / Hel ra weeklies. Bad luck, maybe but maybe also low drop rate.

5 peice worm cult - the 5% cost reduction for group members is well worth it.

Masters resto staff - This is unequivocally the best masters weapon. Stamina is what almost everybody runs these days as post 1.6 is grossly unbalanced in the pro stamina dps direction. Your mostly stamina group will appreciate the extra resources. So will your magica users as they can only block about 3 hits before being out of stamina and anything you can do to help them survive in trash (which is far more likely to kill a good Magica dps than a boss) is good.

2 Torugs or 2 Seducer - The last 2 peices really depend on how many CP you have. If you have enough to not need more regen go with the more spell power of Torugs, if you need the regen go with Seducer. If you have a whole lot of regen go with the legs and chest in Trougs and make them in heavy. Then maybe you stay alive a bit longer as you will only be half as squishy. If you log in and find Nirnhoned still gives 24% spell resist to your whole set be sure to use this. If they have fixed this crazy OP stupid idea that makes spell users completely useless in PVP go with infused. I'm not kidding about the heavy. You really should consider it as magica users are so squishy and to heal you have to be a magica user.

So it looks like no matter what I use I'm gonna have a lot of grinding to do. Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can manage to snag these items.

That is the best gear and yes, lots of grinding and lots of relatively hard content. However, 5 healer (jewelery shoes and epaulets are the best traited I think), 5 crafted seducer is quite good and also very, very, affordable. You can craft all the armor in seducer, leaving the staff, the 11th peice, free for a possible masters resto staff or you can pick up almost any light monster head for a simple one peice + health bonus and use the staff for your seducer.

Also, I should mention that most only consider templar's viable healers. Many will not run with any other heals. Honestly I won't unless that heals is the optional 3rd heals in a raid where they only heal a stack in a few situations and dps the rest of the time. I'm not trying to be a bummer but when I pick up a pug who thinks he will heal as a non-templar I just group kick him and look for another. There is just no substitute for breath of life in healing. Similarly, had an SO run with a non-templar main heals not long ago. It went so very sideways in part because with no breaths popcorn mistakes on that side were always fatal. If you want to heal roll a templar now. Honestly roll a templar either way, post 1.6 all ambiguity about what class to play has been removed with templars topping dps, heals, and tanking lists. As for what to do with the sorc, I craft on mine. Some folks manage good dps but it is more difficult than with better classes and some have a good time in PVP with the, in my opinion gimmicky, unique sorc abilities.

Valrien

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Best healer gear:

3 peice healing mage jewelry from AA - Really, the weapon damage debuff is more than worth it. Keep your squishes alive in trash and give the tank a break. Honestly, I think any templar that has these should wear them whenever he has breath on the bar. The debuff is really good. I should also note this set appears to drop at a much lower rate than all others from coffers and weeklies. I have only 4 peices, all purple, and I have some 50 or 60 gold AA / Hel ra weeklies. Bad luck, maybe but maybe also low drop rate.

5 peice worm cult - the 5% cost reduction for group members is well worth it.

Masters resto staff - This is unequivocally the best masters weapon. Stamina is what almost everybody runs these days as post 1.6 is grossly unbalanced in the pro stamina dps direction. Your mostly stamina group will appreciate the extra resources. So will your magica users as they can only block about 3 hits before being out of stamina and anything you can do to help them survive in trash (which is far more likely to kill a good Magica dps than a boss) is good.

2 Torugs or 2 Seducer - The last 2 peices really depend on how many CP you have. If you have enough to not need more regen go with the more spell power of Torugs, if you need the regen go with Seducer. If you have a whole lot of regen go with the legs and chest in Trougs and make them in heavy. Then maybe you stay alive a bit longer as you will only be half as squishy. If you log in and find Nirnhoned still gives 24% spell resist to your whole set be sure to use this. If they have fixed this crazy OP stupid idea that makes spell users completely useless in PVP go with infused. I'm not kidding about the heavy. You really should consider it as magica users are so squishy and to heal you have to be a magica user.

So it looks like no matter what I use I'm gonna have a lot of grinding to do. Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can manage to snag these items.

That is the best gear and yes, lots of grinding and lots of relatively hard content. However, 5 healer (jewelery shoes and epaulets are the best traited I think), 5 crafted seducer is quite good and also very, very, affordable. You can craft all the armor in seducer, leaving the staff, the 11th peice, free for a possible masters resto staff or you can pick up almost any light monster head for a simple one peice + health bonus and use the staff for your seducer.

Also, I should mention that most only consider templar's viable healers. Many will not run with any other heals. Honestly I won't unless that heals is the optional 3rd heals in a raid where they only heal a stack in a few situations and dps the rest of the time. I'm not trying to be a bummer but when I pick up a pug who thinks he will heal as a non-templar I just group kick him and look for another. There is just no substitute for breath of life in healing. Similarly, had an SO run with a non-templar main heals not long ago. It went so very sideways in part because with no breaths popcorn mistakes on that side were always fatal. If you want to heal roll a templar now. Honestly roll a templar either way, post 1.6 all ambiguity about what class to play has been removed with templars topping dps, heals, and tanking lists. As for what to do with the sorc, I craft on mine. Some folks manage good dps but it is more difficult than with better classes and some have a good time in PVP with the, in my opinion gimmicky, unique sorc abilities.

Gee, thanks for the confidence booster...

Swen_von_Walhallion

well with my temp i using 2 diferent egvips one for max mana regen is 5x healer 4x seducer and 2x mara full light ( with this have no problem get over 2k mana recovery and never get out of mana) and 2nd 5x healer 4x magus 2x torug 5/1/1 armor to get best mana recovery/spelldmg ratio.

on other side with imperaila race i have no racial pasive to help with mana skills and its primary mana based tank, hraler eqvip using only if no chance get decent heaaler by normal way :-)