☆[Healers]☆ Stacking in Magicka reduction/regen?

Dragnelus

Im stacking into Magicka reduction. I got 3Xtorug 5xhealing habit and 3xprayer atm I got 800 magicka reduction and never get out of magicka.

MissBizz

I was stacking just max magicka. Noticed my last dungeon I was constantly out... might need to try out regen instead.

Dragnelus

Magicka reduction

@missBlizz Im also stacking into magicka but for the rings enchts and cp tree im using magcika reduction.

AngersRevenge

Magicka reduction

I play a Breton and use Seducer with champ points into magicka reduction (only about 35 points though). I don't think I have ever ran out of magicka. Unless I spam Breath of Life over and over, even when my teammates don't need it.

UrQuan

Magicka reduction

MissBizz wrote: »

I was stacking just max magicka. Noticed my last dungeon I was constantly out... might need to try out regen instead.

That's probably just because we were constantly needing too many heals...

Dragnelus

Magicka reduction

@AngersRevenge and @UrQuan I only got 800 magicka regen but in dungeons I never het out of magicka vut if I need I just pop up a ultimate as a dk healer it gives me back magicka/hp/ stamina. This way I can invest in max magicka, ll and spellpower. Just love it healings spring ticking for 4,4k

P3ZZL3

Out of interest, what are you guys running in terms of regen both active and idle?

Dragnelus

Magicka reduction

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

Out of interest, what are you guys running in terms of regen both active and idle?

Septimus_Magna

Magicka reduction

I have put together the following setup for high magicka sustain, both cost reduction and magicka regen:
-2x Engine Guardian (head/shoulders) procs a lot pared with high cost reduction
-5x Seducer (chest/legs/hands/belt/staff) everything with nirnhoned trait
-4x Healers Habbit (2x ring/necklace/shoes)
All gear enchanted with magicka and jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction.

I use 5LA/1MA/1HA for the undaunted mettle passive which increases all atributes by 6%.

This is also a good pvp set for destro/resto sorcs because it makes sustaining magicka pretty easy.
On my Altmer sorc I have around 40% magicka cost reduction and 1350 magicka regen without buff drinks.

Flaminir

Magicka reduction

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

I have put together the following setup for high magicka sustain, both cost reduction and magicka regen:
-2x Engine Guardian (head/shoulders) procs a lot pared with high cost reduction
-5x Seducer (chest/legs/hands/belt/staff) everything with nirnhoned trait
-4x Healers Habbit (2x ring/necklace/shoes)
All gear enchanted with magicka and jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction.

I use 5LA/1MA/1HA for the undaunted mettle passive which increases all atributes by 6%.

This is also a good pvp set for destro/resto sorcs because it makes sustaining magicka pretty easy.
On my Altmer sorc I have around 40% magicka cost reduction and 1350 magicka regen without buff drinks.

That's an amazingly strong regen setup..... but I have a question:

With only one spell power buff in there, your spell power must be very very low....so heals hitting like a wet noodle, however long you're able to cast them.

There's always a trade off.... I just think that with all the cost reduction, engine guardian, and a few regen bonuses that there should be scope to remove seducer & replace with martial knowledge or something like that.... get some extra spell power in there too.

lolo_01b16_ESO

You forgot the spell damage option.
I run 5 healer, 4 martial knowledge, 2/3 torugs pact and almost never have magicka issues in PvE. For magicka management I just have cost reduction on my jewelery and use channeled focus.

Septimus_Magna

Magicka reduction

Flaminir wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

I have put together the following setup for high magicka sustain, both cost reduction and magicka regen:
-2x Engine Guardian (head/shoulders) procs a lot pared with high cost reduction
-5x Seducer (chest/legs/hands/belt/staff) everything with nirnhoned trait
-4x Healers Habbit (2x ring/necklace/shoes)
All gear enchanted with magicka and jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction.

I use 5LA/1MA/1HA for the undaunted mettle passive which increases all atributes by 6%.

This is also a good pvp set for destro/resto sorcs because it makes sustaining magicka pretty easy.
On my Altmer sorc I have around 40% magicka cost reduction and 1350 magicka regen without buff drinks.

That's an amazingly strong regen setup..... but I have a question:

With only one spell power buff in there, your spell power must be very very low....so heals hitting like a wet noodle, however long you're able to cast them.

There's always a trade off.... I just think that with all the cost reduction, engine guardian, and a few regen bonuses that there should be scope to remove seducer & replace with martial knowledge or something like that.... get some extra spell power in there too.

Personally I dont use this set for healing but for solo pvp with my sorc. I have something around 32k magicka and 1.9k spell damage buffed so damage/healing is decent. I dont have experience with spell damage healing builds but on I use this on my pve dps setup:

-4x Martial Knowledge (hands/shoes/shoulders/legs)
-2x Adroitness (necklace/belt)
-3x Torugs Pact (heavy chest/head/staffs)
-2x Cyrodiils Light (both rings)
All jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction and I have no sustain problems if someone uses elemental drain.

With this setup I have 2654 spell damage buffed and 32k magicka which makes the spells hit pretty hard. With DW on the execute bar my spell damage is pushed to something around 2.9k buffed.

Like I said, I have no idea if this would work for a healer but its the highest spell damage setup I could come up with.

Dragnelus

Magicka reduction

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

I have put together the following setup for high magicka sustain, both cost reduction and magicka regen:
-2x Engine Guardian (head/shoulders) procs a lot pared with high cost reduction
-5x Seducer (chest/legs/hands/belt/staff) everything with nirnhoned trait
-4x Healers Habbit (2x ring/necklace/shoes)
All gear enchanted with magicka and jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction.

I use 5LA/1MA/1HA for the undaunted mettle passive which increases all atributes by 6%.

This is also a good pvp set for destro/resto sorcs because it makes sustaining magicka pretty easy.
On my Altmer sorc I have around 40% magicka cost reduction and 1350 magicka regen without buff drinks.

That's an amazingly strong regen setup..... but I have a question:

With only one spell power buff in there, your spell power must be very very low....so heals hitting like a wet noodle, however long you're able to cast them.

There's always a trade off.... I just think that with all the cost reduction, engine guardian, and a few regen bonuses that there should be scope to remove seducer & replace with martial knowledge or something like that.... get some extra spell power in there too.

Personally I dont use this set for healing but for solo pvp with my sorc. I have something around 32k magicka and 1.9k spell damage buffed so damage/healing is decent. I dont have experience with spell damage healing builds but on I use this on my pve dps setup:

-4x Martial Knowledge (hands/shoes/shoulders/legs)
-2x Adroitness (necklace/belt)
-3x Torugs Pact (heavy chest/head/staffs)
-2x Cyrodiils Light (both rings)
All jewelry enchanted with magicka cost reduction and I have no sustain problems if someone uses elemental drain.

With this setup I have 2654 spell damage buffed and 32k magicka which makes the spells hit pretty hard. With DW on the execute bar my spell damage is pushed to something around 2.9k buffed.

Like I said, I have no idea if this would work for a healer but its the highest spell damage setup I could come up with.

Yes that seems good! But as a healer I like to have 8% more healing from Healing habit!

Atm im using 3x Torug Pact/5x healing Habit/3x Prayer shawl

Stats are:




Note: Healing habit vr13 and all are purple. I hope to upgrade it sometimes when I got the money but for now it isnt that bad!

2,9k normal and 4,4k crits on healing springs is awesome! And 9k normal and 14k on blessing of restoration

eliisra

Magicka reduction

You need both really. But as a templar you get roughly 480 magicka recovery for free when using Channelled Focus, why I initially stacked reduction, spell power and stronger heals in 1.6. When those things became harder to push, than I went for more recovery.

Recovery it's still important, it's amazing in PvP when fights go on for a while and leeching with a resto heavy becomes tricky. Attacking in PvP also removes your speed buff, so recovery can save your life in kiting situations. In PvE it's also nice, but not as crucial to reach higher numbers, since bosses tends to die way to fast for it to even matter.

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

I was stacking just max magicka. Noticed my last dungeon I was constantly out... might need to try out regen instead.

That's probably just because we were constantly needing too many heals...

Haha. We'll get better @UrQuan

Dragnelus wrote: »

@AngersRevenge and @UrQuan I only got 800 magicka regen but in dungeons I never het out of magicka vut if I need I just pop up a ultimate as a dk healer it gives me back magicka/hp/ stamina. This way I can invest in max magicka, ll and spellpower. Just love it healings spring ticking for 4,4k

Interesting, my regen is somewhere around 1200-1300 as I recall (just threw on some new gear last night) Did notice my health was down due to cheaping out on glyphs and only using green. Hoping to tweak it tonight.

Just reached VR11.. starting to watch for gear on sale to use when I'm VR14, as well started saving all my gold keys. Ugh.. I want to open that chest so bad!!

AngersRevenge

Magicka reduction

Dragnelus wrote: »

@AngersRevenge and @UrQuan I only got 800 magicka regen but in dungeons I never het out of magicka vut if I need I just pop up a ultimate as a dk healer it gives me back magicka/hp/ stamina. This way I can invest in max magicka, ll and spellpower. Just love it healings spring ticking for 4,4k

I'm a Templar. If there is any case where my magicka does run out then I pop my healing ultimate or drink a pot. After that is completed my magicka regen (5 piece light) gives me enough to keep the fight going until my ult comes back and pot is off CD. But, rarely do I have to do it. That's the only magicka regen I have. I use drink sometimes when I have excess but mostly run dual stat food.

Robbmrp

Dragnelus wrote: »

@missBlizz Im also stacking into magicka but for the rings enchts and cp tree im using magcika reduction.

I'm using 5 seducer and 5 healers habit with magicka reduction jewelry. My regen is almost at 2k. When I am just healing I never run out of magicka. When I'm both DPSing and healing I can tend to run out. A couple light attacks bring the majority of it back with Absorb magicka enchants though.

Addihul

Magicka reduction

Yep I agree. Channeled focus is huge. Throw it on your off bar, pop it when a fight starts, renew it when it goes down or 8s after u leave the circle. When the fight is done, pop focus again and keep whichever bar has repentance (if you use it) on it (extra mag regen).. until you are full.

Joy_Division

Magicka regen

By VR14, Healers can, and IMHO should, be somewhere around 2K mana regen. Sure, 800 will get you through a daily, but you will need an almost self-sustaining tank and top-end DPS who make few to no mistakes to get through AA hard-mode, to say nothing of Sanctum where you are almost spamming Breath of Life.

Addihul

Magicka reduction

2K? I know and raid with most of the end game Templars on NA/DC and I don't know anyone who runs more than 1400. I run VDSA & all trials around 12-1300 with focus down. Seems like you'd be losing out on a lot of other benefits by running that deep in to mana regen.

TheSunAlsoRises

Magicka regen

i run magicka regen. on my v9 templar with atronach i currently have something like 1270 magicka regen with 25k or so magicka. my gear is green warlock (4), some seducer (3 maybe?) and 2 worm tongue. combined with heavy resto attacks i never run out of mana unless i've spammed instal heal constantly in large AOE v12 boss fights where dps is getting wrecked. then a pot or just casting my ult regens it quickly enough.

in all MMOs i've played as healer, i focus on regen first and spell power and crit afterwards.

note that i built this breton temp back during beta->launch days and i really haven't changed anything since then. i quit and came back after FTP and the soft cap removal has made healing that much easier.

once i hit v14, i plan on getting blue seducer and whatever else i can get to do some raids. we'll see how things pan out then.

Dragnelus

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Joy_Division wrote: »

By VR14, Healers can, and IMHO should, be somewhere around 2K mana regen. Sure, 800 will get you through a daily, but you will need an almost self-sustaining tank and top-end DPS who make few to no mistakes to get through AA hard-mode, to say nothing of Sanctum where you are almost spamming Breath of Life.

@Joy_Division

Ive done vdsa and vdungeons. I thought I wanted to try some trails. But reading your comment makes me dont wanna trail -_-

Is it really just spamm healing? I played WoW, swtor and did hc raiding, it was kind of reacting healing. Or bosses like wotlk Professor Putricide Good newss everyone! Run from the ooze dps kill it fast.

Or Valithria Dreamwalker heal her and enter portals as a healer. Is there something similar in eso trails/raids for healers? Or is it just yooo son come spamm this button (BoL) im gonna make some coffee.