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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Werewolf (The red headed step child)

Tintinabula
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I just became Werewolf. I had always wondered why I didn't see too many on the combat field but I had to post this.
#1- 350 Ult for a transformation? Are you kidding? When other Ultimates are being scrutinized for 250 Ult there is still a 350 Ult out there?..sheesh!
#2- They allow you to use two skills (pounce and feed) during the trial to gain werewolf and THEN..once you're a WW they take it away?..no skills at all???!! Only heavy and light attacks to start leveling your WW skill passed one? Cmon!!

Some one on the Dev team needs to revisit the WW skill line.
  • Minnesinger
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    The free 15% stamina regen boost in combat is the reason I am ww. I hardly ever see anyone using the skill line in pvp and I am not going to use them at all. It is weaker than vamp but comes with no negative consequences. Yeah I know poison but only in ww form. In summary. don´t need ww but it doesn´t harm to have it. It certainly needs some perks to be useful in ww form.
    The wind is cold where I live,
    The blizzard is my home,
    Snow and ice and loaded dice, the Wizard lives alone.
  • iseko
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    Took me 2 hours to get ww to lvl ten. Its not hard. Find a place where te mobs are spread out a bit with decent respawn time. Jump from mob to mob. Kill. Feed. Stay in ww form forever. For every kill u get 5exp. Lvling the skills themselves is a bit tricky...
  • Sharee
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    The ult cost is only 300 actually, it gets lower as the transformation level increases (not that it still isn't too high for what it does, mind)
  • Dositheus
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    I don't think it would be terrible for pvp, other than the fact that if you try to transform and there is anyone remotely near you, they are going to knock you out of the transformation and you're going to waste 300 ultimate. It doesn't even need to be an interrupt, a good hard hit generally seems to knock you right out of the transformation (which stuns you by the way) and results in you standing there in human form with 0 ultimate wondering why you wasted your time. IF you actually get into WW form, you can do ok 1v1. A group is just going to cc the holy hell out of you and laugh though. I leveled up all of my WW skills, and tried my hardest to go for it for pvp, but it is far too much risk with no real benefit to using it in actual pvp. So... I am back to one of the unwashed masses with 0 points in WW, using it for the stam recovery... and looking sadly at all those skills I wished were cool. On the bright side, I have lots more skill points to put into useful skills.
    Edited by Dositheus on 20 April 2015 10:18
  • billcamp42
    billcamp42
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    I got WW leveled up to 10 pretty quickly, once I found a good spot. It looks like it will take quite some time to get the skills leveled up for a morph though.

    I'm newly transformed myself, so I'm just starting to try it out. I doubt I'll use it in pvp, but perhaps after I get myself up to a point where I'm not being 1 shotted by vets I'll give it a try.

    It is a pretty serious investment of skill points, so I'll be using it or I'll be doing a respec.
  • Ace_SiN
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    I just became Werewolf. I had always wondered why I didn't see too many on the combat field but I had to post this.
    #1- 350 Ult for a transformation? Are you kidding? When other Ultimates are being scrutinized for 250 Ult there is still a 350 Ult out there?..sheesh!
    #2- They allow you to use two skills (pounce and feed) during the trial to gain werewolf and THEN..once you're a WW they take it away?..no skills at all???!! Only heavy and light attacks to start leveling your WW skill passed one? Cmon!!

    Some one on the Dev team needs to revisit the WW skill line.

    1) The ult is 300. 201 if you use the salvation set and 156 if you're a sorc(with the set). With that said, I still think the default cost should be lowered.

    2) Leveling the WW is easy and quick. You can even go back to low level areas and just 1 shot mobs to rack up the kills asap.


    The main reason you don't see the WW is not really because of your 2 issues. The main problem with the WW is the severe amount of versatility you lose while transformed. You lose access to all your weapon passives and most class/skill line passives. On top of that you have some of the highest costing skills in the game as your "normal" attacks. Our only means of recovery is a heal that takes about half of our magicka to heal for about 1/4 of our hp. We also rely heavily on stam and yet we have terrible sustain when you factor in the cost of the skills and the need to sprint/dodge roll(if we're talking pvp). Which is unlike any other stam build in the game..

    The cost of the ult is just added insult to injury.

    King of Beasts

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