I cannot agree more.Blues run around in one huge zerg wiping noobs who keep going back and don't learn. When an emp keep is compromised, DC come in force. They then proceed to say they are always outnumbered and fighting against massive odds so they feel better about the fact that they are essentially defending a buff campaign.
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We really need to make people understand there is life outside of Thorn. I don't understand what drives people to want to join that zerg/lag fest and even be ready to wait 2 hours to join it
We really need to make people understand there is life outside of Thorn. I don't understand what drives people to want to join that zerg/lag fest and even be ready to wait 2 hours to join it
Me neither... Haderus is providing much fun without queue times during prime time (even for DC) and with little to no lag at all. And you get a chance to grab a reard every week instead of waiting 30 days for it.
We really need to make people understand there is life outside of Thorn. I don't understand what drives people to want to join that zerg/lag fest and even be ready to wait 2 hours to join it
johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »We really need to make people understand there is life outside of Thorn. I don't understand what drives people to want to join that zerg/lag fest and even be ready to wait 2 hours to join it
People dont want to come and play on a fully blue/red/yellow map. Especially when there is sveral guilds camping you at the gates.
And then EP will come to evict you, after which DC will claim they evicted you! A vicious cycle \o/Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Looks like we need to visit haderus to return it into balance some time XD
RoamingRiverElk wrote: »"The sad thing about Haderus is that it was full yellow before we turned up with no DC presence at all,"
This is simply not a factual statement.
While Haderus was a yellow buff campaign, there was definitely a blue presence there. Emp keeps kept switching from yellow to blue and back fast.
One time, the current emp faction was losing the last emp keep (Aleswell). My friend and I (EP) were at BRK, trying to take it, when the defending emp came there, killed us, and proceeded not to even try to take the keep with his faction mate or three. And then they lost Ales. Ta da!
Haderus started to change from a yellow buff campaign to a nice three faction campaign around Christmas time, and for a while it was indeed a lot of fun to play there. It was only later that a certain guild and other blues made it "theirs", effectively turning it to a buff campaign due to the unrelenting methods which suck the joy of PvP out of many members of the opposing factions, as we have seen.
There just needs to be a bit more competition on this campaign. The blues arent legion... there's just no serious effort to take anything back. I can't blame the Covenant for that.
If you ask me the problem is that it was basically an emp farming campaign (with yellow dominance) until blue got some organisation going. Virtue of being a 7-day campaign with high emperorship turnover across all alliances. Now emp farming is impossible and all the AP farmers have given up. That has left EP and AD with very little manpower.
Was with a small group of EP yesterday, but we were mostly just goofing around. No way we could take Kingscrest or Farragut because DC outnumbered us within minutes and the empress usually arrived pretty quickly too. Luckily, she wasn't in a very serious mood and was mostly watching.
We really need to make people understand there is life outside of Thorn. I don't understand what drives people to want to join that zerg/lag fest and even be ready to wait 2 hours to join it
Me neither... Haderus is providing much fun without queue times during prime time (even for DC) and with little to no lag at all. And you get a chance to grab a reard every week instead of waiting 30 days for it.
Yes, it is sad but true, although I don't see the "PvE" guilds you are talking about on DC. DC is mostly getting defended by a guild using some yellow tabards, dunno their name though (WTB guild tag behind target names!).
So at least I didn't see any call to arms regarding PvE guilds to defend it until now.
And if you ask me, I wouldn't mind trading these buffs for some competative pvp...
Everyone who needs these buffs to achieve something in PvE won't be able to achieve his/her goal on a long term basis even while having the buffs anyway... They are nice to have, ok - but nothing more. But of course that's just me saying that - others will have other views.
Yes, it is sad but true, although I don't see the "PvE" guilds you are talking about on DC. DC is mostly getting defended by a guild using some yellow tabards, dunno their name though (WTB guild tag behind target names!).
So at least I didn't see any call to arms regarding PvE guilds to defend it until now.
And if you ask me, I wouldn't mind trading these buffs for some competative pvp...
Everyone who needs these buffs to achieve something in PvE won't be able to achieve his/her goal on a long term basis even while having the buffs anyway... They are nice to have, ok - but nothing more. But of course that's just me saying that - others will have other views.
I think the guild with the yellow tarbards is Exile, but yesterday I heard someone saying the leave Haderus, it that's actually true it will get a lot easier to take stuff back.
According to an Interview with Lead PvP Designer Brian Wheeler, removing the PvP buffs from outside of Cyrodiil is something "He'd like to do" but they struggle with the UI. I just hope they'll remove it as soon as possible, since it doesn't give a incentive to do PvP, but only an incentive to own objectives. (The focus is on the ownership not on the conquering itself!)
I personally am not sure if it's actually the UI or just the fact that they want to keep an incentive for PvP for PvEers, if they want to keep the incentive for PvEers. If that's the case I'd suggest them to replace the current boni with temporary ones that are gained by conquering a certain objective. They should however not have any Impact on endgame PvE scoreboards, something like a passive gold gain increase or so.
But I don't want to turn this thread into a "pls change AvA buffs QQ thread", so I'll close with: I'm going to try and motivate some stable PvP on Haderus, but lemme theorycraft some tactics first.