Lava Whip Stam Morph???

alduiin

So ever since 1.6 went live on the pts I have been wondering why the hell there isn't a lava whip stam morph???
I mean WHAT is it zos Wants, dks running spammin wrecking blow or dks holding block and spammin gdb.
Make us a damn lava whip morph that scales of weapon dmg and stam so u actually can go stam dk without using a bow to get range and using crit charge!

Altaris16_ESO

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

fureyu

DK already broken. No need to break them more.

alduiin

fureyu wrote: »

DK already broken. No need to break them more.

Maybe you should patch game 1.6 is out!

SRIBES

Nerf fossilize first before they add a stam morph for whip. Lol

alduiin

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Nerf fossilize first before they add a stam morph for whip. Lol

Yes that is true they have a few things they need to fix.

Tankqull

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

alduiin

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flame does not count"

Tankqull

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

alduiin

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

lol ok but when you say turtle i thought u ment tank, and lavawhip dont have much to do with tanking and the only way we tanked was though ult regen and holding block and spamming shields and green dragon blood and scales who got our ulti up really fast.
And we should get lava whip stam morph since we have 0 instant dps as dk as I said.

Tankqull

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

lol ok but when you say turtle i thought u ment tank, and lavawhip dont have much to do with tanking and the only way we tanked was though ult regen and holding block and spamming shields and green dragon blood and scales who got our ulti up really fast.
And we should get lava whip stam morph since we have 0 instant dps as dk as I said.

you have, but you rely on your weapon line for it wich is prevents you from using a shield + 2k++ endu reg+ ~1k mana reg + warlock wich allows you to perma spam scales while perma blocking and doing reliable dmg thx to a stamina version of whip.
so no from a balance perspective - from a convenience view i do absolutly understand you though.

alduiin

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

lol ok but when you say turtle i thought u ment tank, and lavawhip dont have much to do with tanking and the only way we tanked was though ult regen and holding block and spamming shields and green dragon blood and scales who got our ulti up really fast.
And we should get lava whip stam morph since we have 0 instant dps as dk as I said.

you have, but you rely on your weapon line for it wich is prevents you from using a shield + 2k++ endu reg+ ~1k mana reg + warlock wich allows you to perma spam scales while perma blocking and doing reliable dmg thx to a stamina version of whip.
so no from a balance perspective - from a convenience view i do absolutly understand you though.

You are talkign about playing vs [snip] are you not? or as a [snip] because someone who is tanking will not uses skills for stamina


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Cody

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

lol ok but when you say turtle i thought u ment tank, and lavawhip dont have much to do with tanking and the only way we tanked was though ult regen and holding block and spamming shields and green dragon blood and scales who got our ulti up really fast.
And we should get lava whip stam morph since we have 0 instant dps as dk as I said.

you have, but you rely on your weapon line for it wich is prevents you from using a shield + 2k++ endu reg+ ~1k mana reg + warlock wich allows you to perma spam scales while perma blocking and doing reliable dmg thx to a stamina version of whip.
so no from a balance perspective - from a convenience view i do absolutly understand you though.

You are talkign about playing vs retaards are you not? or as a retaard because someone who is tanking will not uses skills for stamina

/sigh

wow

Nestor

There is a reason my Dragon Knight went back to Magic Focus.

fureyu

There should be a tradeoff between tankiness and dps, as is for nightblades. Not endless tankiness combined with endless dps like what dk's want to have and like what sorcs currently have (at least 1v1).

trimsic_ESO

Stamina DK need something similar to what stamina NB have, i.e. a strong burst damage skill, and a stamina morph of lava whip would be a good candidate for that. It would be their surprize attack.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

What annoys me with this morph and others is that you get one choice for a Magicka morph and one for a Stamina .. meaning there is NO choice generally as your build will dictate which one you take.

I'm fine with giving choice of build types were some skills are for one and some for the other, what I dislike a lot is this new method of taking a skill based on one of them and creating morphs for the otherL: you're wither gimp on the base skill till you get the morph or else are forced to take the 'right' choice at morph time even if the morphed skill for 'your' build is less viable than the 'other' one.

I was caught out when I took the 'better' morph for me of the NB Teleport Strike only to find I'd chosen the Stamina one and I'm a Magicka kind of cat, I had to reset Morphs as I was continually going out-of-Stamina whereas before I could deal with three-packs using TS to get to each and then Flurry or something else to get them down.

Lhorion

They should have added a third morph of some skills so all the stamina class skills would be a further morph without decreasing choices.

Varicite

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

alduiin wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Altaris16_ESO wrote: »

i agree having a stamina morph for whip would open up for some interesting and fun build options.
hope ZOS will consider this idea...

as i can understand your intention i hope they do not add a stamina morph as it will bring back the DK turtle of doom from 1.5...

So u prefer wrecking blow spammers then ? :,) and no it will not it's just a dmg abilite and dk's have 0 instant dps stam abilities. "and no unstable flamse does not count"

well yes i prefer WB spammers without permablock over permablock whip spamming DKs

lol ok but when you say turtle i thought u ment tank, and lavawhip dont have much to do with tanking and the only way we tanked was though ult regen and holding block and spamming shields and green dragon blood and scales who got our ulti up really fast.
And we should get lava whip stam morph since we have 0 instant dps as dk as I said.

Depends on which morph.

You don't think having a high damage ability that can heal you for just as much as it hits for is tanky? ...on a DK?

With Igneous Shield boosting it and providing protection?

Did you not PvP in the days of Flame Lash / Talons / Shield Charge spam?

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

trimsic_ESO

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

Tankqull

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

dks are the only class with more than one versetile DOT aswell.

Lhorion

Tankqull wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

dks are the only class with more than one versetile DOT aswell.

DOT skills would be nice (in pvp), but nearly every NB has his cloak and nearly every templar has his purify. So the DOT skills are good against DKs and sorcs. I don't use this skills in pyp anymore. I would prefer a burst skill, too.

Tankqull

Lhorion wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

dks are the only class with more than one versetile DOT aswell.

DOT skills would be nice (in pvp), but nearly every NB has his cloak and nearly every templar has his purify. So the DOT skills are good against DKs and sorcs. I don't use this skills in pyp anymore. I would prefer a burst skill, too.

use 2h there you have your stamina based burst skill.

Lhorion

Tankqull wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

dks are the only class with more than one versetile DOT aswell.

DOT skills would be nice (in pvp), but nearly every NB has his cloak and nearly every templar has his purify. So the DOT skills are good against DKs and sorcs. I don't use this skills in pyp anymore. I would prefer a burst skill, too.

use 2h there you have your stamina based burst skill.

Tankqull wrote: »

Lhorion wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Dks get stam whip, its gg everyone.

cant wait to see pages of whip.whip whip in my death log. it will be like old times.

You don't have to wait for long to see pages of destruction radiant, surprize attack, or crystal fragment in your log, do you?
DK is the only class who does not have a strong burst damage skill.

dks are the only class with more than one versetile DOT aswell.

DOT skills would be nice (in pvp), but nearly every NB has his cloak and nearly every templar has his purify. So the DOT skills are good against DKs and sorcs. I don't use this skills in pyp anymore. I would prefer a burst skill, too.

use 2h there you have your stamina based burst skill.

Use dw/bow then you have DOT skills.