37k Fire Ballsta hit???

Trikki

Siege damage is ridiculous and I won't be playing PVP again until its fixed.

I am a vampire yes, I am a cloth wearer yes. I am a Templar Healer and even using Purge and spamming Breath of Life I mostly can't keep myself up on a siege battle now. As a healer I am Magicka, I don't have much stamina, certainly not enough to roll out of the amount of red circles you typically see on a large scale siege battle.

You've just upped siege damage and made healers even more important but yet, we get 1 shot by said siege. Where is the logic in that?

King Bozo

What is your health with food? Also do you use fire resistance glyph since your a vamp?

aco5712

Why are you a vamp as a healer? Why don't you spec more into health. Use shields. Don't be so squishy. It's seriously a l2p issue more then anything.

LameoveR

You'r ridiculous. Don't play. Vamp in LA without fire res is squishi like a mudcrab.

DeLindsay

aco5712 wrote: »

Why are you a vamp as a healer? Why don't you spec more into health. Use shields. Don't be so squishy. It's seriously a l2p issue more then anything.

I'm a Vampire Healer in PvP and I do just fine. OFC I wear 5pc HA (Construct) + 2 LA, have a huge amount of my CP into Elemental Defender and a Legendary Fire glyph to help with Fire dmg. I'm very happy that Siege damage has increased as much as it has, it will force Players to give up zergs or die in a fire, literally.

Also, to the OP, if you stand in stupid, don't complain if stupid slaps you across the face. There's this REALLY large circle on the ground to telegraph to you that something bad is coming, might want to not be standing there when it hits.

Trikki

So a hit for 37k is a l2play issue? lol. You should be a game designer for ZoS coz they've proved they can produce a bug free game. hahahahaha.

37k is broken no matter which way you slice it. I have 25k health which is more than most magicka users have with fire resist enchants on jewellry (as vamps usually do) plus all the Altmer and Light Armor passives. All my attribute points went into health.

We are a pretty good PVP guild on Thornblade (Nocturnal AD), we've done very well over the past 12+ months and gone through all the ridiculously overpowered abilities but this tops it all. I've been hit with some pretty big damage but 50% of max health overkill? that's a joke.

Obviously whoever has replied has not fought in any large scale siege battles lately (or are just trolling). You can't dodge 6-10 ballistas firing at once with 8k stamina and you certainly can't heal through it.

Xsorus

I don't think its possible for siege to crit, and since a fire ballista is only going to do 12k damage I think it is against a player and I think 40% more against a vampire, the only way it did that much damage is if you stood there for multiple hits

Trikki

It showed as 1 hit in the death recap and even if its 2 hits that's still too much.

timidobserver

You would've taken a boat load of damage, but you might have survived it if you had on two pieces of heavy, a bit of added mitigation, and dropped vamp.

Tintinabula

you should not have to drop a skill line to avoid being fire one shotted by a ballista

Trikki

It seems that Tintinabula is the only one that gets the problem...

Curragraigue

The most important thing for a healer is to stay alive so you can still send out heals. I've swapped from all light to mostly heavy with 2-3 pieces light. You need to adapt to the new game play elements.

If you are taking a lot of damage from siege put up a siege shield, use wards on your resto staff skill line and purify/purge the DoTs. If your going to remain a vamp don't stand in the front lines stand back where you can heal without being hit. Your set up currently as a glass cannon you should not be surprised you are dying. You can either change play style and gear or you will continue to be easy pickings for the enemy.

Evarwyn

Damn ballista, you cray cray!

olsborg

Ballistas/siege weps can crit.... ^^

Tankqull

use siege shield
if every whiner would slot and use it sieging weapons would be once again nothiung but a nuisence.

Arki

Trikki wrote: »

It showed as 1 hit in the death recap and even if its 2 hits that's still too much.

DoTs add up in death recap. It looks like one hit, but it can be several. So you most likely stood there during full duration of the dot - lag may have fooled you there

... or something less likely happened (bug in death recap, bug in fire ballista dmg...)

mtwiggz

The increase to siege damage has done nothing but made large - AoE spamfest - battles into something more interesting.

Try blocking, adding more CP into elemental resist, using a siege shield (as a healer this should now find a place on your bar with the meta change), not standing in giant red circles of doom or even consider adding a few pieces of HA to your lineup.

I added two pieces of HA to my magicka build and my survivability has gone way up. Not only to siege weaponry but also to stamina users. With the proper placement of CP my magicka pool and regen are exactly the same as they were with 7/7 LA.

Adapt or die.

Soulac

Stamina NB WW (Kitty) .. One fire trebuchet takes 88% of my Hp away. (21k Hp)
If I don't purge or cloak instantly I'll die.
There ran no shields as Stamina NB and the heals won't save against the dot.

But I get rarely hit and got cloak on my bar, so it's fine for me at least.

AltusVenifus

Have fun in PVE land. Siege damage is awesome...

azoriangaming

Heres a link to a youtube video for you it may help. https://youtube.com/watch?v=7IjgZGhHrYY

Lava_Croft

Protip: Get rid of the fire DoT.

Kypho

Its like an antizerg, anti siege weapon as it should be. Artilery type wheapon, what OFC does big damage. A weapon what is stationary, slow firerate, and an OBV. Red circle around impact..... you can see it even from moon.

So is it OP? Yes if you stand in red circle and wait there, just to say "OMG IT DID 37k DAMAGE OMG".

The time from start of firing, to impact, a player can do same dps.

eventide03b14a_ESO

I love the new damage from siege weapons. I died twice last night from them, but I also took out quite a few enemies as well.
To those that don't understand why these should do the damage they do I suggest a little light reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_engine

Kypho

I know for most ppl it was fun, that 10 siege hit them and they just healed it. No more troll sieging

Huntler

Siege ignores resistances, which makes me wonder why half this thread claims you need a fire glyph.... "super skilled" players at it again

Armitas

Guys I think we can have everything this new siege damage provides without having it 1 shot people for 37k. Seriously, lets be reasonable, don't defend it with bogus and glib answers.

Panda244

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Stand in the red.
And you're dead.

L2P.

As a Templar, just cast Blazing Shields... If I get hit by siege, Igneous Shield negates it's damage completely, and I don't have to heal or purge. Just cast that, let the DoT tick, cast it again.

DeLindsay

Panda244 wrote: »

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Stand in the red.
And you're dead.

L2P.

As a Templar, just cast Blazing Shields... If I get hit by siege, Igneous Shield negates it's damage completely, and I don't have to heal or purge. Just cast that, let the DoT tick, cast it again.

Awesome. But yeah as a NB Healer I just use Ward Ally if there's no way for me to get out of the big red circle in time and although it won't negate all the damage it certainly reduces it to a manageable value.

tonemd

DeLindsay wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Stand in the red.
And you're dead.

L2P.

As a Templar, just cast Blazing Shields... If I get hit by siege, Igneous Shield negates it's damage completely, and I don't have to heal or purge. Just cast that, let the DoT tick, cast it again.

Awesome. But yeah as a NB Healer I just use Ward Ally if there's no way for me to get out of the big red circle in time and although it won't negate all the damage it certainly reduces it to a manageable value.

No nightblade should have a problem if they survive the initial contact. Dark Cloak cures all.

Islyn

Is made to break stone walls and mushy humanoid is surprised by big damage? Do not be in red. Why is anyone surprised by this? They should have hit this hard in the first place.

What should be though is they cannot be placed past a certain distance from walls/keep. Like no siege in a field somewhere.

DeLindsay

Islyn wrote: »

Is made to break stone walls and mushy humanoid is surprised by big damage? Do not be in red. Why is anyone surprised by this? They should have hit this hard in the first place.

What should be though is they cannot be placed past a certain distance from walls/keep. Like no siege in a field somewhere.

First line totally agree with, second line hell no.