Fossilize...

SRIBES

I'm not one to complain/cry over abilities but fossilize is absolutely broken, here's why:
It's unblockable.
It roots for four seconds after the duration ends.
It lasts twenty seconds.
If they do not break it or are damaged before the duration ends it does NOT give CC immunity.
As someone who has a VR14, alliance rank 23 DK I think it needs a nerf, it's silly how OP it is.

SRIBES

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Fossilize doesn't give CC immunity if you don't break it, it's not just powerful it's bugged.

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Kas

Right now you can deal with it decently. once more DK's figure what how the bility works, there will be infinitely more QQ here.

cozmon3c_ESO

Kas wrote: »

Right now you can deal with it decently. once more DK's figure what how the bility works, there will be infinitely more QQ here.

i can definitley see that,

why do they get this soft cc as instant cast but sorcs has a 2 second cast, i lols every time.

Mumyo

ChannelTribes wrote: »

I'm not one to complain/cry over abilities but fossilize is absolutely broken, here's why:
It's unblockable.
It roots for four seconds after the duration ends.
It lasts twenty seconds.
If they do not break it or are damaged before the duration ends it does NOT give CC immunity.
As someone who has a VR14, alliance rank 23 DK I think it needs a nerf, it's silly how OP it is.

It is extremely hard for melees because u have to break and dodgeroll in combination.
It is easy for ezereth as sorc to say "deal with it".

I agree, we have problems here, it costs me so much stamina every time, just as mines in a different way, u charge the sorc, get insane dmg and u are rooted aswell. Makes him only watch me die. Many things need to be rethinked but the numbers of dks and sorcs are insane and their voice in the forum is too strong.

Its simply *** to grant free cc immunity on a main attack like jabs because it was able to stunnlock and now other skills do so and even worse.

Jeremy

CC abilities are always over-powered in PvP. They are also annoying as _____.

They should just get rid of them. Freezing someone in place so they can't even play their character is just a cheesy gimmick people often confuse with strategy. But there is nothing strategic about fighting someone who can't even move.

They should have never nerfed unstoppable. That at least provided an effective counter for players who actually wanted to enjoy PvP without having to deal with this kind of lame gameplay. So I'm indifferent now toward if ever I step into Cyrodil again. I just have better ways to spend my day than getting annoyed because I can't even control my character.

Davadin

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

Tankqull

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story starts from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

Ezareth

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

Breaking free from petrify does grant immunity.

cozmon3c_ESO

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

yup

petrify needs a cast time, just like all the other of these soft cc abilities already have. i mean who thought it was a good idea to have an instant cast soft cc with a root at the end of it, its an instant set up for any combo you can think of and no way to counter it. looking at you mr. @ericwroble. this cheese needs to be looked into.

Ezareth

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

yup

petrify needs a cast time, just like all the other of these soft cc abilities already have. i mean who thought it was a good idea to have an instant cast soft cc with a root at the end of it, its an instant set up for any combo you can think of and no way to counter it. looking at you mr. @ericwroble. this cheese needs to be looked into.

I have to disagree here. Every class has some ability that forces a player to consume stamina to break free. Nightblades have fear, DKs Petrify, Templar Eclipse, and Sorcs Rune Prison. Each ability has strengths and weaknesses. Fear is the strongest ability, followed by Fossilize, Defensive Rune, and then Eclipse but they are all pretty powerful and unique.

There are plenty of counters too it. Watch my video against Sheliza, he cast petrify on me constantly and I ignored it.

cozmon3c_ESO

Ezareth wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

yup

petrify needs a cast time, just like all the other of these soft cc abilities already have. i mean who thought it was a good idea to have an instant cast soft cc with a root at the end of it, its an instant set up for any combo you can think of and no way to counter it. looking at you mr. @ericwroble. this cheese needs to be looked into.

I have to disagree here. Every class has some ability that forces a player to consume stamina to break free. Nightblades have fear, DKs Petrify, Templar Eclipse, and Sorcs Rune Prison. Each ability has strengths and weaknesses. Fear is the strongest ability, followed by Fossilize, Defensive Rune, and then Eclipse but they are all pretty powerful and unique.

There are plenty of counters too it. Watch my video against Sheliza, he cast petrify on me constantly and I ignored it.

to be fair the dude is a tank, he doesnt have the burst like bae come back or skaffia. face those guys all night and see how much cheese that ability is when its followed by a wrecking blow and you cannot cc break because of that stupid bug that still exists where a soft cc and a hard cc going at the same time is not cc breakable. other people are starting to catch on and cheesing this crap up.

Ezareth

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

yup

petrify needs a cast time, just like all the other of these soft cc abilities already have. i mean who thought it was a good idea to have an instant cast soft cc with a root at the end of it, its an instant set up for any combo you can think of and no way to counter it. looking at you mr. @ericwroble. this cheese needs to be looked into.

I have to disagree here. Every class has some ability that forces a player to consume stamina to break free. Nightblades have fear, DKs Petrify, Templar Eclipse, and Sorcs Rune Prison. Each ability has strengths and weaknesses. Fear is the strongest ability, followed by Fossilize, Defensive Rune, and then Eclipse but they are all pretty powerful and unique.

There are plenty of counters too it. Watch my video against Sheliza, he cast petrify on me constantly and I ignored it.

to be fair the dude is a tank, he doesnt have the burst like bae come back or skaffia. face those guys all night and see how much cheese that ability is when its followed by a wrecking blow and you cannot cc break because of that stupid bug that still exists where a soft cc and a hard cc going at the same time is not cc breakable. other people are starting to catch on and cheesing this crap up.

I haven't had unbreakable CC in a long time (although I had a bug earlier this week where all of my abilities were greyed out but I could move my character and I could "Break free" unlimited times but it wouldn't do anything other than consume my stamina. The bug also persisted through death) , but that is another bug and yeah I was only pointing to the video to say that you can break free every 8 seconds with no problem with the right build.

Perhaps it is too powerful though with the root added along with the CC. As a sorc who also runs purge I dont have a problem with it but I can see how many others could.

cozmon3c_ESO

Ezareth wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

can't they break? like, yknow, mashing your left/right mouse or double-tapping a direction?

what? people can't afford a tiny bit of stamina?

the tiny bit of stamina is 6k+ for petrify
you have to break the disable component by a break free to deny the WB throwing you through the air and stunlocking you on the ground in combination with the second part of the petrify cc the root wich as knockdown+root is unbreakable giving the DK the time to aply 2 further WB if you are able to survive that amount of dmg.
and when you have broken the innitialdisable petrify is so nice to immediatly root you wich has to be broken by rolling or you are eating the allready started WB wich will end in another charge - and the story from the beginning again as petrify does not grant any cc imunity ...

yup

petrify needs a cast time, just like all the other of these soft cc abilities already have. i mean who thought it was a good idea to have an instant cast soft cc with a root at the end of it, its an instant set up for any combo you can think of and no way to counter it. looking at you mr. @ericwroble. this cheese needs to be looked into.

I have to disagree here. Every class has some ability that forces a player to consume stamina to break free. Nightblades have fear, DKs Petrify, Templar Eclipse, and Sorcs Rune Prison. Each ability has strengths and weaknesses. Fear is the strongest ability, followed by Fossilize, Defensive Rune, and then Eclipse but they are all pretty powerful and unique.

There are plenty of counters too it. Watch my video against Sheliza, he cast petrify on me constantly and I ignored it.

to be fair the dude is a tank, he doesnt have the burst like bae come back or skaffia. face those guys all night and see how much cheese that ability is when its followed by a wrecking blow and you cannot cc break because of that stupid bug that still exists where a soft cc and a hard cc going at the same time is not cc breakable. other people are starting to catch on and cheesing this crap up.

I haven't had unbreakable CC in a long time (although I had a bug earlier this week where all of my abilities were greyed out but I could move my character and I could "Break free" unlimited times but it wouldn't do anything other than consume my stamina. The bug also persisted through death) , but that is another bug and yeah I was only pointing to the video to say that you can break free every 8 seconds with no problem with the right build.

Perhaps it is too powerful though with the root added along with the CC. As a sorc who also runs purge I dont have a problem with it but I can see how many others could.

imagine if you cannot bolt escape and then see the double wammy you take to your stam bar, fortunately for magicka based sorcs its only a cc break (if it works in a timely manner before wrecking blow smacks you in the air). magicka based any other class will get totally reamed by this ability over and over again, having to cc break and dodge roll because there escapes dont let them move in a foward movement like bolt. this ability is totally out of balance in its current state and needs a rework.

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jbcrocks

As magicka dk, I break and charge him first before he charges me and now he's on the defensive

Hypertionb14_ESO

Add cast time like all the other Stun abilitys, And add the Immunity.

now its as worthless as all the other Sleep spells.

TheBucket

Does Agony work like this?

SRIBES

TheBucket wrote: »

Does Agony work like this?

Nope