And you wonder why we Bolt away....

DisgracefulMind

This is why:





And you all want to take our Bolt Escape away? Nuh uh.

Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to bolt across an entire map if you all wouldn't chase two people with a zerg >___>

#PlzStopSorcQQ

Itoq

What is the Continuous Attack buff?

Panda244

Itoq wrote: »

What is the Continuous Attack buff?

You get it for 10 minutes after taking a resource, buffs your damage.

@DisgracefulMind I feel you... I've been chased by hordes on my DK before, and I didn't have a run away button.... Wanna know how I got out of it alive? Rock. Breather. Rapid Maneuvers. Slaughterfish. Boat-wreck. Cower.

The rest of the times I was just trampled by hoofs until my head was pulp.

Glurin

Yes, I've noticed this pattern as I've gone through the posts here trying to catch up with what's been happening. It's especially prevalent in the BE complaint threads, but can also be observed in various other topics and videos even if they have nothing to do with BE.

Basically, the very idea of disengaging from a fight just doesn't seem to compute with some people. To them, all PvP consists of "two men enter, one man leaves" cage fights. That's why you see comments and video about people following a running sorcerer for half an hour or from one end of the map to the other. Once an enemy is sighted they have this strange, almost pathological need to fight them until one or the other is dead, no matter how impractical achieving that outcome becomes.

But Cyrodiil is not Thunderdome. It's open world PvP. If two men enter, it is entirely possible and legitimate for two men to leave. It's also possible that zero men leave. There might be some cause for concern if two men enter and three men leave, but I'm almost positive that it will not be the result of a sorcerer running for the hills.

Anyway, I'm convinced that this is the real driving force behind the BE hate and why some people think it's OP no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary or how hard it gets nerfed. It doesn't actually matter which class has what mobility skills or why they have them. I guarantee you that if you gave nightblades a toggle ability that made them completely immune to all damage and another ability that let them teleport twenty feet forward at no cost, these same people would follow those nightblades all over Cyrodiil for hours at a time as well.

Armitas

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

caeliusstarbreaker

We should all only be allowed to light, heavy attack and block... Then we wouldn't have to nerf anything.

AltusVenifus

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

75% of class. Every class has a better invis, in the 10 sec potion w/ speed buff than NBs...

Armitas

Yeah and stealth detect pots and flare. Stealth detect pots are meh but that flare is something else.

ScruffyWhiskers

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to bolt across an entire map if you all wouldn't chase two people with a zerg >___>

#PlzStopSorcQQ

Now to be fair, you were camping right in front of Ales last night and must have ganked 10 guys while I watched. Don't be surprised if the villagers get the pitchforks and torches out and hunt down the monster.

Ezareth

I do love when people round up a posse to try and chase me down. Good fun, although harder to survive these days since everyone's horses have so much stam and they can retreating maneuver from horseback.

cozmon3c_ESO

if i have a zerg chasing me for a long ass time, i figure im just helping out my alliance giving them the numbers advantage. im not even a tank and i can aggro almost the entire red or blue zerg alone, lols.

DisgracefulMind

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to bolt across an entire map if you all wouldn't chase two people with a zerg >___>

#PlzStopSorcQQ

Now to be fair, you were camping right in front of Ales last night and must have ganked 10 guys while I watched. Don't be surprised if the villagers get the pitchforks and torches out and hunt down the monster.

This was far before we were outside of Ales, though. :P

DisgracefulMind

Ezareth wrote: »

I do love when people round up a posse to try and chase me down. Good fun, although harder to survive these days since everyone's horses have so much stam and they can retreating maneuver from horseback.

It was a huge amount of people. Luckily German and I always split up when it gets to this point, so one can come back for the other just in case, but still. Hilarious lol.

DisgracefulMind

Panda244 wrote: »

Itoq wrote: »

What is the Continuous Attack buff?

You get it for 10 minutes after taking a resource, buffs your damage.

@DisgracefulMind I feel you... I've been chased by hordes on my DK before, and I didn't have a run away button.... Wanna know how I got out of it alive? Rock. Breather. Rapid Maneuvers. Slaughterfish. Boat-wreck. Cower.

The rest of the times I was just trampled by hoofs until my head was pulp.

@Panda244 I feel this pain! My DK gets chased down by zergs quite often ;__;

Sometimes I would get away with the whole: Get behind rock -> Rapids -> Cinder Storm -> Dodge Roll -> Repeat

):

DisgracefulMind

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

if i have a zerg chasing me for a long ass time, i figure im just helping out my alliance giving them the numbers advantage. im not even a tank and i can aggro almost the entire red or blue zerg alone, lols.

Heehee. This was the first of like many zergs that chased us last night. We had one that chased us from Arrius almost entirely to Dragonclaw lol.

Hughezy

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I do love when people round up a posse to try and chase me down. Good fun, although harder to survive these days since everyone's horses have so much stam and they can retreating maneuver from horseback.

It was a huge amount of people. Luckily German and I always split up when it gets to this point, so one can come back for the other just in case, but still. Hilarious lol.

you and Germo split up? tell Germo I'm always down for sloppy seconds. His body shall be mine!

olsborg

Sometimes I think people take it as a sport to chase a sorc, I get chased all the time by 10+ groups everyday, and I get away almost everytime, why would I stand and fight only to be zerged, if they had some honor theyd come at me 1-3 at a time then id oblige them with a decent fight.

Zagz

Tunnel Vision chasers, they are in every game.... It's like a switch in their brain, You can closely compare them to a engraged bull.... Pea for brains but they won't stop till they don't see red.

Gilvoth

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

Skafsgaard

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

This. Sorc feel special getting follow by 10-20 ppl, yea must be nice for 1 person to escape 15. Give other ppl escape and see how fun it is now

Tankqull

Ezareth wrote: »

I do love when people round up a posse to try and chase me down. Good fun, although harder to survive these days since everyone's horses have so much stam and they can retreating maneuver from horseback.

slot the dismount caltrops, and look for small passages where they either have to go through or have to circumvent by a long way - problem solved

RinaldoGandolphi

Ezareth wrote: »

I do love when people round up a posse to try and chase me down. Good fun, although harder to survive these days since everyone's horses have so much stam and they can retreating maneuver from horseback.

i gotta admit, it is pretty funny. I had a huge zerg chase me all the way from Roebeck Farm back to Nikel LOL! the funniest part was, in their tunnel vision, they didn't see the DC reinforcements coming from the backside of Nikel, and got thoroughly owned lol.

olsborg

Skafsgaard wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

This. Sorc feel special getting follow by 10-20 ppl, yea must be nice for 1 person to escape 15. Give other ppl escape and see how fun it is now

I, personally, wouldnt call 1vs20 pvp either, thats why I have no qualms escaping such odds.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

So the answer is to never have escape as an option? That's ridiculous. People need to stop hating on the classes that do have escape as an option. Yes their class has that option but something is certainly sacrificed for it.

Merlin13KAGL

Yeah...skill ceases to have much of anything to do with it at that point.

With those kinds of numbers, odds of even getting overlooked / not spotted while waiting for the storm to pass is highly unlikely.

You should at least have the option to die by your own hand, forsaking the AP they would get (Fall damage and Slaughterfish help in this, but it's not a very good alternative.)

cozmon3c_ESO

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Yeah...skill ceases to have much of anything to do with it at that point.

With those kinds of numbers, odds of even getting overlooked / not spotted while waiting for the storm to pass is highly unlikely.

You should at least have the option to die by your own hand, forsaking the AP they would get (Fall damage and Slaughterfish help in this, but it's not a very good alternative.)

if you do fall damage and fish death they still get the ap if they are close enough.

loki547

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

This is why:





And you all want to take our Bolt Escape away? Nuh uh.

Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to bolt across an entire map if you all wouldn't chase two people with a zerg >___>

#PlzStopSorcQQ

German now has you posting his QQ's in the forums, very manly.

DisgracefulMind

loki547 wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

This is why:





And you all want to take our Bolt Escape away? Nuh uh.

Perhaps we wouldn't feel the need to bolt across an entire map if you all wouldn't chase two people with a zerg >___>

#PlzStopSorcQQ

German now has you posting his QQ's in the forums, very manly.

Lol no QQ here, this was just super funny, especially with all the recent Sorc QQ and I wanted to post it. Go away, you're irrelevant to...everything.

DisgracefulMind

olsborg wrote: »

Skafsgaard wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

This. Sorc feel special getting follow by 10-20 ppl, yea must be nice for 1 person to escape 15. Give other ppl escape and see how fun it is now

I, personally, wouldnt call 1vs20 pvp either, thats why I have no qualms escaping such odds.

So much this lol.

Armitas

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

The reason why other classes don't get chased by zergs is because they die by zergs.

The two men enter two men leave only works for the 50% of classes capable of leaving. Give the other 2 an escape if you want this "two men enter two men leave" to happen, though I wouldn't call it PvP anymore.

So the answer is to never have escape as an option? That's ridiculous. People need to stop hating on the classes that do have escape as an option. Yes their class has that option but something is certainly sacrificed for it.

What was the question?