Official Discussion Thread for "Battlemaster's Corner - The Infernal Warden"

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This is the official discussion thread for the web article "Battlemaster's Corner - The Infernal Warden."

Read on for this Dragonknight player-build specializing in support and healing!

Khivas_Carrick

And people said Dragonknights can't be healers.

MrTtheDK

They can if the player is mindful enough. Even with healing all endgame on my DK, I still get pug groups who question if I can heal a vet pledge before inviting me which is understandable. Times are a changing though...I highly encourage anyone to try this build out as it doesnt really interfere with a DK magicka dps build meaning you can rock both.

Tamanous

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

And people said Dragonknights can't be healers.

That was pre-1.6. Look at their mechanics now and you will see why they now heal like mad.

MrTtheDK

Tamanous wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

And people said Dragonknights can't be healers.

That was pre-1.6. Look at their mechanics now and you will see why they now heal like mad.

I healed all content prior to 1.6 as well. People just thought they needed templars.

Tamanous

MrTtheDK wrote: »

Tamanous wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

And people said Dragonknights can't be healers.

That was pre-1.6. Look at their mechanics now and you will see why they now heal like mad.

I healed all content prior to 1.6 as well.

I only refer to end game min/maxers who devalue builds because they are mathematically inferior in their minds. I made zero reference to what can actually challenge content.

The quote was "And people said ..." and not can't.

Snit

If you can make an Orc DK healer work in Veteran Dungeon PUG's, you are pretty darned good at TESO

Darlgon

Hmm.. I also heal with my DK, but in Cyrodiil, not dungeons... never really went for the Martial Knowledge set, but to each thier own. Glad to hear some others also are healing.

MrTtheDK

Darlgon wrote: »

Hmm.. I also heal with my DK, but in Cyrodiil, not dungeons... never really went for the Martial Knowledge set, but to each thier own. Glad to hear some others also are healing.

I run seducer and martial knowledge in PVP. Its a lot of fun and mainly use ele drain, crushing shock medium weave and ele ring for offence. Healing is about the same. What are you running?

Dreddnawt

This is a very solid build that obviously supports a lot of survivability for group mates. There are many who cant see past their own noses to realize classes other than templar can heal effectively. DKs make superb "bubble" healers stacking varied damage shields in lieu of large direct heals. Sorcs also have a healing advantage with lower spell costs, higher spell power and crits, and resource exchange options. Nightblades can make extremely valuable siphon healers that actually DPS almost passively while they heal.

The short and curly of it is: Dont count any class out for any role.

AzuraKin

wouldn't it be better to use shadow or mage stone? ritual only gives 4% more healing (for me with my spell power/max magicka with dual wield (more then staff can get) would only be 60 more damage which equates to about effect of 600 max magicka vs mage 1000 max magicka base,) and same stats with shadow gives 150 more on crits per tick (1500 crits 2250 base with shadow crits 2400, whith with ritual would crit for 2340). just a thought.

MrTtheDK

AzuraKin wrote: »

wouldn't it be better to use shadow or mage stone? ritual only gives 4% more healing (for me with my spell power/max magicka with dual wield (more then staff can get) would only be 60 more damage which equates to about effect of 600 max magicka vs mage 1000 max magicka base,) and same stats with shadow gives 150 more on crits per tick (1500 crits 2250 base with shadow crits 2400, whith with ritual would crit for 2340). just a thought.

Yeah I use the mage now after further research with it.

mistermacintosh

I don't hear anyone complain when I "spam" honor the dead/combat prayer in dungeons. I don't actually spam anything if the group is pulling their weight.

If I had one gold for every time I used that spell to save some special teammate standing in the red, not blocking, not cc-breaking... my bank account would be full.

Templars have the capacity to be superior healers just like Dragon Knights can be superior tanks. That's the whole point of classes.

Cinna

dethbl00ms wrote: »

Templars have the capacity to be superior healers just like Dragon Knights can be superior tanks. That's the whole point of classes.

I could not disagree more. The thread is getting old but your stale statement just can't be left as the final word.

DK healers have a huge edge with access to major mending (30 percent healing increase to all spells) and shields. Also magicka mnagement with battle roar is a strength.

Night_Child

As of 2018, I have yet to see a DK - or any class for that matter out heal an Argonian templar and I have been playing since release. Can it be done? Depends on the player...except if I'm that Argonian templar. I do have an open mind, so reading this build was very interesting. Good job.