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  • TheBonesXXX
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    DC resurgence? we didnt lock out thorn until just a few minutes ago, and there is still queue for DC lol.


    I have played both factions since launch, EP has some great players, but the masses use the "we win campaigns" crutch to make up for the fact that without a vastly superior presence they will be rolled. anonymous and company were good players on AD, they still are on EP, but the pugs of EP ride the coat tails of numbers and their organized guilds, then try and argue numbers using anecdotal evidence as if it means something.

    You guys dont even realize how often I sit and read zone chat EP side and laugh, its generally the people who are considered a joke sitting there and giving the "go EP!" and "pact pride" hoorah's while riding on the backs of your talent and numbers lol.

    and the fact that you are a texan upsets me, huck. from austin per chance?

    as I said, if anyone is feeling froggy, try playing a DC character lol, let me know how that goes for ya.

    To say AD/DC factions have superior play is not only a lie but a damn lie and almost a statistic; I have been witness AD/DC forces crumpling like beer-cans with a handful of players that actually know what they're doing. All three factions have players, decent players, then great players.
  • Subtomik
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    In not sure you know what a statistic is but you trying really hard to make that mark twain quote work and it didn't.

    There are lots off good EP guilds and players and they are almost never the ones going on about hoe awesome their faction is.

    Dc has plenty of bads, but they know better than to brag while being carried by others unlike EP's pugs/Zerg guilds
  • Satiar
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    In not sure you know what a statistic is but you trying really hard to make that mark twain quote work and it didn't.

    There are lots off good EP guilds and players and they are almost never the ones going on about hoe awesome their faction is.

    Dc has plenty of bads, but they know better than to brag while being carried by others unlike EP's pugs/Zerg guilds

    I don't begrudge EP some happiness, those of us who played through the dark days (gate camped nightly) have reason to feel proud of the turnaround.

    But the bragging and trash talk is over the top. EP should not forget the world turns, than turns again. We won't remain on top, and I wish people would remember that instead of rubbing current victory in everyone's faces.

    Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
    Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost



  • Jauriel
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    Sphinx2318 wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
    WebBull wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
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    /clap for outnumbering the other alliances. When evened up you get beaten back into your hole.

    I could have sworn the DC emperor was dethroned and an EP emperor was crowned while all three factions were pop locked last night. Or was there some secret AD and DC agreement to allow EP to claim emperorship despite outnumbering them 2 to 1?

    You would be wrong. DC was never pop locked on Thorn last night. Half of DC was on Chill.

    So that blue lock I saw when a crash banished me to PVE land last night was just another bug in the game, like the three bars for blue at 6 am Eastern this morning?

    @LonePirate , you cant argue with ignorance... these are the same people that blame the server lag from the update on EP. There is no reasoning with them.
    You didn't know about that EP exclusive ultimate that causes lag for everyone else?
    Angavar wrote: »
    Fat chance roe.. Ever since EP discovered they can lag out the server by bringing their entire pop to one location, it seems to be just about all they're capable of doing. Including during off peak.

    Scrolls, emp keeps, defending, you name it, they've lag capped it.

    But of course, its 'coordination' and 'teamwork' that allows them to win campaigns. Nothing to do with the ever growing population disparity due to AD and DC looking for fights elsewhere. :wink:
    Yeah we have lag immunity. Only the other two factions get it.
    Subtomik wrote: »
    how did you guys select what faction you join? I clicked hard mode on the start screen and it rolled me daggerfall.
    What game are you playing?

    Nobody doubts you experience the natural, organic lag we all do. Good god hasn't this been said again and again? The salient point here is you also enjoy the deliberate exploit of that lag when the lagthugs in your faction deliberately attack the server and things then roll in the favor of ep. Get it? Got it? Good.
  • Jauriel
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    I challenge anyone who has a dc alt to try and argue that we aren't insanely outnumbered lol

    I would never degrade myself by having a DC alt; but this is how Thornblade NA looked around 7:00 am EDT this morning. I wouldn't say DC was insanely outnumbered then.

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    We all know the poplock indicator is perma bugged. I doubt it has ever worked correctly. It is meaningless.
  • Jauriel
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    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    DC resurgence? we didnt lock out thorn until just a few minutes ago, and there is still queue for DC lol.


    I have played both factions since launch, EP has some great players, but the masses use the "we win campaigns" crutch to make up for the fact that without a vastly superior presence they will be rolled. anonymous and company were good players on AD, they still are on EP, but the pugs of EP ride the coat tails of numbers and their organized guilds, then try and argue numbers using anecdotal evidence as if it means something.

    You guys dont even realize how often I sit and read zone chat EP side and laugh, its generally the people who are considered a joke sitting there and giving the "go EP!" and "pact pride" hoorah's while riding on the backs of your talent and numbers lol.

    and the fact that you are a texan upsets me, huck. from austin per chance?

    as I said, if anyone is feeling froggy, try playing a DC character lol, let me know how that goes for ya.

    Sorry I got off work and hit Cyrodiil for a few hours so I'm just now seeing this....

    The DC resurgence is the lock pop I've been seeing since TU dropped every night when I'm on and playing. Last campaign it was AD that was a threat and this time around it's DC. In fact when I logged off tonight DC was doing a solid job of running my guild ragged going keep to keep. Oh and they had the lead by a couple hundred points. Kudos!

    I've only played EP....early start to the lighting patch then unsubbed and then came back in early January and have been in Cyrodiil every since. To date I've been on 3 campaigns - Skullcrusher during the "Thorkerville" and the Noore days, Wabbajack1 and 2, and Thornblade whatever numbers the past 2 have been. Honestly, it doesn't bother me one bit that there are people whom ride the coattails or cheerlead in the campaigns because everyone plays their part in the game...some just are better suited for it than others. Zone chat for the most part is garbage....it's normally not on my screen unless I whisper someone or type something in guild.

    WHY would my being from the Great State of upset you? I'm a native born Houstonian and have lived here all of my life save the 8 years I was in the military. Although I did work in Austin in 2004 when I first got out of college. And I, like @LonePirate would never defile myself and play anything else! hahaha I actually have 8 EP toons that I made at launch and already wasted so much gold on horse upgrades way back when that I would shoot myself if I rerolled.

    Tbh, zone chat is how I have successfully defended many keeps on Thornblade. Even used all caps in zone to take a keep. Some zone chat is superfluous and silly. But never discount the power of the masses. A single voice can rally dozens of players and many sincerely want to play and help the faction. I've picked up many elite players for my guild in zone as well. Just sayin...
  • Jauriel
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    I can tell you for a fact that the quality of PUGs on DC is much much higher than the other factions.

    DC has been the underdog for months and months, so they know how to fight against a superior force.

    If the numbers are equal, DC will win every time. I've seen the will of EP PUGs absolutely crushed by our advance. They will absolutely fall apart without hardcore guilds ordering them to stack flags, etc.

    <applause>
  • Jauriel
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    DC resurgence? we didnt lock out thorn until just a few minutes ago, and there is still queue for DC lol.


    I have played both factions since launch, EP has some great players, but the masses use the "we win campaigns" crutch to make up for the fact that without a vastly superior presence they will be rolled. anonymous and company were good players on AD, they still are on EP, but the pugs of EP ride the coat tails of numbers and their organized guilds, then try and argue numbers using anecdotal evidence as if it means something.

    You guys dont even realize how often I sit and read zone chat EP side and laugh, its generally the people who are considered a joke sitting there and giving the "go EP!" and "pact pride" hoorah's while riding on the backs of your talent and numbers lol.

    and the fact that you are a texan upsets me, huck. from austin per chance?

    as I said, if anyone is feeling froggy, try playing a DC character lol, let me know how that goes for ya.

    To say AD/DC factions have superior play is not only a lie but a damn lie and almost a statistic; I have been witness AD/DC forces crumpling like beer-cans with a handful of players that actually know what they're doing. All three factions have players, decent players, then great players.

    Yer point? I have seen ep forces crumple as well.
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    Huntler wrote: »
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    I challenge anyone who has a dc alt to try and argue that we aren't insanely outnumbered lol

    I would never degrade myself by having a DC alt; but this is how Thornblade NA looked around 7:00 am EDT this morning. I wouldn't say DC was insanely outnumbered then.

    RzX5ro4.jpg

    If anyone wondered what a sampling and observational bias was, please see above. You must be one of those people that claims climate change is fake because it snowed yesterday.

    Since we are in B2P now....I think I'd say past performances are not indicative of future gains.

    Since they are talking about previous level of difficulty over the course of the game up until now, I would say that is all that matters and B2P change as of now are irrelevant stat 101 student using econ 101 jargon.

    Sub may have been speaking historically (ESO launch through TU launch) but Pirate was speaking in the here and now which is where we sit. The past few days have been fun with the surprising DC resurgence and mass quantities of players seen in Cyrodiil. And as someone who got an undergrad in accounting and a grad in finance.....sorry but not sorry for my use of the saying above.


    I hope you're not backdoor implying DC is doing better in TB merely secondary to upped numbers of players. It really is due to the dedicated guilds hard work in that campaign. If anything the mass influx of newbs has been a headache. :neutral:
    Edited by Jauriel on 21 March 2015 22:24
  • Aminals
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    I remember when the only campaign Ebonheart won was Wabbajack. We were the clear underdogs as we lacked the sheer numbers paint any server one color and keep it that way. Blue and yellow have always been want to do that, ie ruin the map for everyone else. But in any case, limiting the number of servers has made being the 'dominant faction' more about quality than quantity. Proud to say I've never encountered a pact member I didn't like. Much respect to all the pvpers, keep it classy.
    Apollos
  • Subtomik
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    Aminals wrote: »
    I remember when the only campaign Ebonheart won was Wabbajack. We were the clear underdogs as we lacked the sheer numbers paint any server one color and keep it that way. Blue and yellow have always been want to do that, ie ruin the map for everyone else. But in any case, limiting the number of servers has made being the 'dominant faction' more about quality than quantity. Proud to say I've never encountered a pact member I didn't like. Much respect to all the pvpers, keep it classy.

    This is probably the best troll post these forums have ever seen
  • Aminals
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    Daww you're gonna make me blush ^.^
    I sometimes forget this is war and all people come here to do is flame or point fingers. But I figure anyone who plays elder scrolls can't be that bad, even if they don't play for the good guys.
    Apollos
  • PainfulFAFA
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  • Aminals
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    Man it's great we get to fight two whole factions! Can you just imagine what that's like?
    Apollos
  • PainfulFAFA
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  • PainfulFAFA
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    and i'll leave this one here as well
    this was just when Red started doing their offense from KC
    notice the empty Alessian castle because all of AD knows where the lag goes, the lag wins.

    EP pride indeed lol
    Edited by PainfulFAFA on 22 March 2015 02:44
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  • MADshadowman
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    For the pact!
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