Nightblades, wondering where your ability to stealth around near indefinitely went?

Grim13

It's in the Legerdemain skill line. First passive.

Level Legerdemain up and you'll get up to a 40% reduction in stamina usage while sneaking... That alone should free up several CP for you.

Cody

Not really a NB only thing, but ok:)

ScruffyWhiskers

Yeah it's really lame that they obviously adjusted the stamina for stealth movement formula and put the way to get back to normal in Legerdemain and CP..... like a lot of other things. I had dual nightshade daggers and the pendant for pvp and without any of the new Legerdemain or CP perks I was amazed at how fast my stamina depleted compared to before. Khajiit 7/7 medium as well.

Magicka melee with ambush/concealed weapon/soul harvest/impale is gone. Lotus Fan is a cruel joke. So after resisting it for so long I am now wearing a skirt and using destro/restro. Hope you are happy zeni. Sorry for the vent here but this really sucks. I'm going to be a funnel health spammer in no time. Yeay!

Deviante

Cause sneaking matters when you can use a detection pot that lasts for 40 seconds.

ScruffyWhiskers

Yeah, escape is ridiculously hard right now. Speed is the key but now with retreating maneuvers and mist form no longer stacking it's impossible to get into a group, get the kill and get out alive. This is even more so since ambush no longer is magicka based and your initial burst is much lower. Talking magicka NB here.

That said, stealth is still pretty good for initial positioning and counter-NB, counter ganking ops.

It's too much to hope for but with detection potions now so long lasting, the NB cloak really should be immune or have a predator like shimmer effect for enemy players at the least so we would have a chance to get away (like mistform helps)

LegacyDM

ZOS has no clue how to balance burst so they over nerf to be on the safe side. They have never ever supported sneaky sneaky stabby stabby NB. Theres a reason why people call this game elder shields online. Rather than allow burst, they force everyone to play a defensive game using 360 block cast. They have nerfed sneak attack, stealth/invis, light armor, and now magicka NB ambush forcing us to use an ability (teleport) better than its morph (lotus fan). They nerfed our crits by introducing CP that allow mitigation and adding 50% crit reduction to Mage light when attacked from stealth. With the increased timer to the detect invis pots and the new flare spell with Mage light, what the heck is the incentive to play sneaky sneaky stabby stabby?! Not to mention cloak is still buggy as hell. Try playing a NB using dots. Lotus fan, cripple, and agony are pointless dots. No luck there. Dot is too easily countered and healed.

ZOS will learn real quick that console players will not adjust to this well. The expectation will be burst assassin, but the reality will be met with frustration and disappointment as everything is too easily blocked with a shield, is a buggy mechanic, or too easily countered or negated through other means.

Lava_Croft

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

ZOS has no clue how to balance burst so they over nerf to be on the safe side. They have never ever supported sneaky sneaky stabby stabby NB. Theres a reason why people call this game elder shields online. Rather than allow burst, they force everyone to play a defensive game using 360 block cast. They have nerfed sneak attack, stealth/invis, light armor, and now magicka NB ambush forcing us to use an ability (teleport) better than its morph (lotus fan). They nerfed our crits by introducing CP that allow mitigation and adding 50% crit reduction to Mage light when attacked from stealth. With the increased timer to the detect invis pots and the new flare spell with Mage light, what the heck is the incentive to play sneaky sneaky stabby stabby?! Not to mention cloak is still buggy as hell. Try playing a NB using dots. Lotus fan, cripple, and agony are pointless dots. No luck there. Dot is too easily countered and healed.

ZOS will learn real quick that console players will not adjust to this well. The expectation will be burst assassin, but the reality will be met with frustration and disappointment as everything is too easily blocked with a shield, is a buggy mechanic, or too easily countered or negated through other means.

Melee attacks that stun when used from stealth.
Blocking costs Stamina.
Sneak attacks were way too strong.
Cloaking and stealth have not been nerfed.
'Our crits' are everybody's crits.
Cripple is awesome.
Lotus Fan is pretty useful when fighting in groups.