PTS Patch Notes v1.6.4

ArconSeptim

People from EU server can't join the PvP, it's saying you have to wait 2 days to change to guest campaign, you have to wait 15 hours to get in, but when I try to teleport from wayshrine to Cyrodiil I get stuck in endless loading screen,Nice.

Grao

Reykice wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

You all do realize they have said multiple times there will be no small updates so if Sorcs aren't changed before 1.6 is released than there will be ZERO changes until it's out on console and they release the next phase of DLCs.

If this is the case... lame...

Are you sure?

He is correct. Zenimax stated these will be the last Balancing changes they will put out for the next few (several) months, so they need to balance things properly now. Later patches will include bug fixes and DLC will include new content, nore-balancing of classes, weapons, etc.

Father

ArconSeptim wrote: »

People from EU server can't join the PvP, it's saying you have to wait 2 days to change to guest campaign, you have to wait 15 hours to get in, but when I try to teleport from wayshrine to Cyrodiil I get stuck in endless loading screen,Nice.

try group que it always works for me ;p

c0rp

Kingdinguhling wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

I was really hoping for SOMETHING for sorc. It is a damn shame the state stamina sorc are going to hit live in. Feedback was provided and harped on for weeks now and MANY other things were tweaked around, but sorc is stuck with zilch when it comes to stamina options.

get of this stamina kick .....we are laughing @ U. You should prolly be playing a Nightblade or DK or maybe even a Templar if you want a stamina based character.

Sorcerer just isn't a Class your gonna get a lot of stamina Options its a Caster.

Honestly in its current state it doesn't have many Viable Caster DPS or healing options.

(you gonna try to make a Stamina Based healing Sorcerer when spellcrafting comes out .....)

Thats exactly the point. Where is the LOL button again?

Why do the other classes have good stam options but the sorc doesnt. Get it now?

Snit

lordrichter wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

aaaa that's it....plans will be put on table with spellcrafting ....

This is hardly a revelation. While all classes should benefit from Spell crafting, Sorcerers should top that list.

I don't think there is a basis for this assumption in anything ZOS has ever said. Are you just assuming that "spell" indicates "sorcerer?" Why?

Erock25

Reykice wrote: »

So... they tried to get a developer to talk about the Sorc changes... but then realized they really don`t have time or care?

Disappointing... if it takes so long just to get a reply from somebody...

I'm as disappointed as you to not hear anything, but the information that we may be getting some sorc info (which I interpreted as they were quickly changing some things up for us in 1.6.4) just said 'hope to get you some information.' I'd rather @ZOS comment and say that they're actively looking into something and make a rough estimate of when it will be talked about and be wrong than no word at all from @ZOS.

Kingdinguhling wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

I was really hoping for SOMETHING for sorc. It is a damn shame the state stamina sorc are going to hit live in. Feedback was provided and harped on for weeks now and MANY other things were tweaked around, but sorc is stuck with zilch when it comes to stamina options.

get of this stamina kick .....we are laughing @ U. You should prolly be playing a Nightblade or DK or maybe even a Templar if you want a stamina based character.

Sorcerer just isn't a Class your gonna get a lot of stamina Options its a Caster.

Honestly in its current state it doesn't have many Viable Caster DPS or healing options.

(you gonna try to make a Stamina Based healing Sorcerer when spellcrafting comes out .....)

Don't care what you have to say, Sorc should have more abilities that work with stamina. We have 5% cost decrease, a toggle that buffs heavy attacks by 11% and gives 8% stamina, and a gap opener that synergizes well with crit charge. Dark Deal doesn't count. Also we lost our only advantage (stacking weapon dmg higher than every class and trust me this was by far the best reason to be a stamina sorc) while every other class gained multiple options.

Bound Armaments is also a joke compared to the new Igneous Weapons for people who use regular heavy attacks in their rotation.

NotSo

Good to see character creation issues being put to rest before Monday.

Joejudas

No DK nerfs. Omg I can't believe it lol

Grao

c0rp wrote: »

Kingdinguhling wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

I was really hoping for SOMETHING for sorc. It is a damn shame the state stamina sorc are going to hit live in. Feedback was provided and harped on for weeks now and MANY other things were tweaked around, but sorc is stuck with zilch when it comes to stamina options.

get of this stamina kick .....we are laughing @ U. You should prolly be playing a Nightblade or DK or maybe even a Templar if you want a stamina based character.

Sorcerer just isn't a Class your gonna get a lot of stamina Options its a Caster.

Honestly in its current state it doesn't have many Viable Caster DPS or healing options.

(you gonna try to make a Stamina Based healing Sorcerer when spellcrafting comes out .....)

Thats exactly the point. Where is the LOL button again?

Why do the other classes have good stam options but the sorc doesnt. Get it now?

The problem I see is, if sorcerers are not meant to have a stamina alternative and good stamina abilities, we should be the best spell casters. We are not. We are currently disputing for worse Magicka class in the game as well as stamina.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

just a quick change. i assume still another on tuesday?

karavelovo.bgeb17_ESO

and this patch needed to be 4gb?

F7sus4

Well... so does Crippling Grasp actually immobilize enemy or is it just the missing tooltip information?!



PS. ZOS, you were demanded to fix Magicka Nightblade issues as well. Not only partially un-nerf the Transfer passive. Thank you for your attention.

Ageless

1.6.4, skipped Wailing Prison. This normally either puts you in your starting room where the Prophet talks to you, or gives you that container with the dress and the bow. I had neither, no container and no Prophet talking to me.

For completion, that's at the Aldmeri Dominion.

Stalwart385

Why is everyone disappointed in this patch? It was a pretty quick patch that fixed a lot of minor issues. It also fixed the major issue of people doing more damage than they should. Now you can actually compare your builds.

Stalwart385

Seraphyel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

aaaa that's it....plans will be put on table with spellcrafting ....

This is hardly a revelation. While all classes should benefit from Spell crafting, Sorcerers should top that list.

Spellcrafting? Isn't that the thing that recently was put on hold and will never be implemented?

Just like PvP in the Justice system.

ForKristSake

I can't create a template toon in 1.6.4. Tried several times. Used randomize appearance.

Apparently you don't like my eyebrows. Not nice. I spend all of no seconds making them look just perfect.




NOTE: It worked after I changed from Argonian to an AD toon.

ginoboehm

Stalwart385 wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

aaaa that's it....plans will be put on table with spellcrafting ....

This is hardly a revelation. While all classes should benefit from Spell crafting, Sorcerers should top that list.

Spellcrafting? Isn't that the thing that recently was put on hold and will never be implemented?

Just like PvP in the Justice system.

Is there any real playable content on the horizon beside the small part of the justice system and some uncertain comment about the first dlc (high wrothgar) coming out well after the console launch? I bet it will be super hard to gain champion points till september-october after that zenimax will buff the cp gain so the new players can catch up to us. While we have nothing new to do until then

Ageless

Soul Trapping isn't available.
I even waited until I got to level 4, perhaps I have to wait until I am level 5.
Edit: I have since leveled to Level 5 and the Soul Magic Skill set is still missing.

But then why can empty level 1 soul gems be for "Used to capture Level 1 - 9 souls"?

TheBull

So far in Cyrodiil patch seems pretty solid.





except for the 9k mines... 9k EACH... Do sorcerers use mines in pve? FFS they should.

against 3600 cp mind you...

Seraphyel

ginoboehm wrote: »

Stalwart385 wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Exstazik wrote: »

aaaa that's it....plans will be put on table with spellcrafting ....

This is hardly a revelation. While all classes should benefit from Spell crafting, Sorcerers should top that list.

Spellcrafting? Isn't that the thing that recently was put on hold and will never be implemented?

Just like PvP in the Justice system.

Is there any real playable content on the horizon beside the small part of the justice system and some uncertain comment about the first dlc (high wrothgar) coming out well after the console launch? I bet it will be super hard to gain champion points till september-october after that zenimax will buff the cp gain so the new players can catch up to us. While we have nothing new to do until then

Right now we don't know anything about upcoming content.

We know they are working on Murkmire, IC, Orsinium and a trazillion other things, maybe they are working on rescuing the world from climate change, I don't know and I begin to think that they don't know it, too. We don't get news, we don't get details, we get NOTHING about upcoming content. That's quite funny when you think about the only content they added was Craglorn, that's 6 months old now.

Blastmab14_ESO

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JasonLeavey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

DEUTSCHE PATCHNOTIZEN



Combat & Gameplay
General

• Fixed an issue that was resulting in player characters being capable of greater damage, defense, or movement speed than intended.
• You will now remain on your mount when traveling across a border between zones.

CHANGES FROM 1.6.3 to 1.6.4

GOD MODE

So your saying I won't be able to get god mode anymore? Where I was able to kill players and npcs in 3-9 bashes? I logged out like 20x times to reset it, I don't need god mode. But is was nice taking a elder scroll all by myself A night blade almost killed me on my way back to the keep. (used all my stamina up running) That was awesome I got to be a god for a day haha I didn't abuse my powers too much. Those guys with the two handed weapons abuse more than me lol. Getting one shotted with a giant sword for like 60k damage was hell until they hit my shield so much then my shield became op then I started killing them haha. ( I will test If its really gone I was told you guys fixed the unlimited stamina while blocking but I was able to get it idk know how for sure)

DK

I have reviewed the changes of dk after weighting the loss of Reflective Scale, Coagulating Blood, ( yeah... I saw that yall change it to 20% health recovery instead of 40% plus the boosted in armor and spell resistances) petrify ( no longer giving health, stamina, and magicka decreases. But I did see the other morph of petrify get boosted and range increases. so over all we dk's lost some tanking abilities...but got more range...Now seeing this I'm ok where dk is right now maybe you guys could increase the shield of dk razor armor from 11% (if I remember right) is not enough. since players have the ability to ignore armor anyway. Ingenous shield is a ok shield, maybe if you make razor armor morph shield lasted longer?

Bald characters
w..t..h ; hope that is fixed.

NA CHARACTERS
Characters from live NA getting deleted when EU got ported >:/ ; hope thats fixed


unrelated to PTS as of now

THE ROAD AHEAD

When are we going to learn the Dragon Language from Kyne, Kynareth, or Kaan which ever you prefer or maybe Prince Azura unlocking the 6 ( which 6 begin something unnatural) ability that we can have. Not including the ult; With Kaan or Prince Azura help we could learn maybe some of the words in time, for some type of epicly hard misson; a daily? Being able to fus ro dah! the town guards to get away would help and be very fun and using in Pvp and other Pve things . It would also generate alot of hype for ESO and get more people who played Skyrim to play the game. Maybe even Dragon ult of course DK's get to turn to a real dragon for a short period of time, were as other get to be a transparent dragon spirit. :P Maybe after you guys get the Imperial City Done with it's Pvp and Pve arena? at least I hope so, Thanks!

Ageless

Killed a beggar.

Immediately I get a 21 gold bounty and I am a murderer. The law will kill me on sight.
10 seconds later, bounty still at 21 gold, I change down to Notorious. The law will no longer kill me on sight.
1 minute thereafter, I am now Disreputable. You guessed it, still at 21 gold.

Only while I typed this did I change to 19 gold bounty. No change in status there.
Where can I look up what my status is? The only thing I see in the Character screen is the bounty amount, but not whether I am Irrefutable, Cuddlable, Smelly or Mass Murderer.

... And my sounds are gone.

Aerius_Sygale

NotSo wrote: »

Good to see character creation issues being put to rest before Monday.

So is it confirmed that 1.6 will -finally- go live on Monday...? Or are we just being overly presumptuous? <.<

Dominoid

Ageless wrote: »

Killed a beggar.

Immediately I get a 21 gold bounty and I am a murderer. The law will kill me on sight.
10 seconds later, bounty still at 21 gold, I change down to Notorious. The law will no longer kill me on sight.
1 minute thereafter, I am now Disreputable. You guessed it, still at 21 gold.

Only while I typed this did I change to 19 gold bounty. No change in status there.
Where can I look up what my status is? The only thing I see in the Character screen is the bounty amount, but not whether I am Irrefutable, Cuddlable, Smelly or Mass Murderer.

... And my sounds are gone.

There is a difference between heat and bounty. The combination of heat and bounty is what gives you your wanted level - bounty is the white line and heat is the red line. The combination is your wanted level. Heat will desipate quickly, bounty will take longer. It sounds like the system was working correctly.

Dominoid

Grao wrote: »

Reykice wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

You all do realize they have said multiple times there will be no small updates so if Sorcs aren't changed before 1.6 is released than there will be ZERO changes until it's out on console and they release the next phase of DLCs.

If this is the case... lame...

Are you sure?

He is correct. Zenimax stated these will be the last Balancing changes they will put out for the next few (several) months, so they need to balance things properly now. Later patches will include bug fixes and DLC will include new content, nore-balancing of classes, weapons, etc.

This is NOT CORRECT. There will be bug and balance patches between now and console release. The only thing they said is no content patches between now and consoles and have specifically mentioned bug and balance fixes will continue. Hopefully your just misinterpreting and not being malicious with the misinformation.

Cody

Well, Guess I had better start mass grinding them APs to get vigor. I will have to, as it is the only self heal I will have access to that is worth a crap.

hopefully I have it soon:(

Grao

Dominoid wrote: »

Grao wrote: »

Reykice wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

You all do realize they have said multiple times there will be no small updates so if Sorcs aren't changed before 1.6 is released than there will be ZERO changes until it's out on console and they release the next phase of DLCs.

If this is the case... lame...

Are you sure?

He is correct. Zenimax stated these will be the last Balancing changes they will put out for the next few (several) months, so they need to balance things properly now. Later patches will include bug fixes and DLC will include new content, nore-balancing of classes, weapons, etc.

This is NOT CORRECT. There will be bug and balance patches between now and console release. The only thing they said is no content patches between now and consoles and have specifically mentioned bug and balance fixes will continue. Hopefully your just misinterpreting and not being malicious with the misinformation.

Actually, you are the one misinformed. Zenimax has declared in more than one occasion that the balance changes on 1.6 are final, as in there will be no further rebalance after that patch goes to Live. There will still be bug fixes though and I never said they'd stop those.

ForKristSake

I want to introduce you to the new face of ESO. A troll's heaven. Look at that bounty. Don't you look away, you LOOK at it! Why am I able to do that? People will just create new characters and run around ruining the gaming environment for everyone else. Please, you desperately need to make the guards what they were in 1.6.1. Maybe just a little nicer. But in this newest version, you didn't just nerf the guards, you neutered them (or spayed, pick one).

And if I can't pay the bounty, shouldn't the choice be in red font?

Btw, it took me about 3 hours to get a bounty large enough to pay off my mortgage.

Digiman

Man this doesn't bode well for patch 1.6.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

I understand it takes time to implement sorc changes. I eagerly await more information.

Thanks for understanding. We'll get you guys some information about our plans for Sorcerers as soon as we can.

I certainly hope that the team is actually listening to the community also. They have made great effort in expressing the problems and suggesting solutions with these changes in the hopes that later down the line in 3 months you won't be forced to make a major patch dedicated to specific class because no one is playing it anymore because of current issues happening in this 1.6 that almost break the class for PvE and PvP.

Edit: I just wanted to add I understand that the Sorcerer is a very different class compared to the other in terms of design. So I know its can be hard.

daemonios

Digiman wrote: »

Man this doesn't bode well for patch 1.6.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

I understand it takes time to implement sorc changes. I eagerly await more information.

Thanks for understanding. We'll get you guys some information about our plans for Sorcerers as soon as we can.

I certainly hope that the team is actually listening to the community also. They have made great effort in expressing the problems and suggesting solutions with these changes in the hopes that later down the line in 3 months you won't be forced to make a major patch dedicated to specific class because no one is playing it anymore because of current issues happening in this 1.6 that almost break the class for PvE and PvP.

Edit: I just wanted to add I understand that the Sorcerer is a very different class compared to the other in terms of design. So I know its can be hard.

As I see it, ZOS has two options: either make the Sorcerer a true utility class (which means they have to redesign end-game content to make that utility actually necessary - as we've seen, even our Negate isn't actually that useful, and it's being destroyed because of PvP), or balance it so it's on par with other classes' DPS or healing or tanking ability.

I've said this several times, and posted proof: Sorcerers are being dropped from trials more and more. If 1.6 goes live as it is, I'm afraid you'll destroy the class.