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Weapon Swap is Garbage now.

JackDaniell
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Why was a cool down added to swap? I am now unable to react, my swap will stick. Let me toggle this cool-down off.

Try it: Cast a skill then try to swap. Feel how it sticks? Now try in in combat and cry as your toon does nothing and dies when you really need to swap to a heal. I like the swap on live and I don't know why a cool-down was added in 1.6, it makes combat feel slow and unresponsive.
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  • ginoboehm
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    Otherwise sorceres would still be somewhat usable with 3 toggled abilities per bar so we can all be sure that sorceres have no options whatso ever to do decent damage in pve (pvp sorcs are awesome) it had to be done basically I heared that somewhere someone made a usable sorcerer build and zenimax could never allow that. Kidding aside I think this is zenimaxs try to harm shield stacking builds (restro and other shields are mostly on the offbar and offensive skills on the main bar) so they try to stop this build from existing. It will not help much people will just move skills around
    Edited by ginoboehm on 10 February 2015 23:58
  • Robbmrp
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    ginoboehm wrote: »
    Otherwise sorceres would still be somewhat usable with 3 toggled abilities per bar so we can all be sure that sorceres have no options whatso ever to do decent damage in pve (pvp sorcs are awesome) it had to be done basically I heared that somewhere someone made a usable sorcerer build and zenimax could never allow that. Kidding aside I think this is zenimaxs try to harm shield stacking builds (restro and other shields are mostly on the offbar and offensive skills on the main bar) so they try to stop this build from existing. It will not help much people will just move skills around

    So rather than FIX THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM they change something else to compensate for it. Sounds like a company I USED to work for.

    The head of development just needs to pull their head out and resolve the original problem. Stop changing something else because the 1 change that was made isn't working like intended.

    Seriously how hard is it to fix the original problem?!?!?!? Adding a cool down on the shield would be far too much work after all.....
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  • Lionxoft
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    I agree. Weapon swap is one of the things I hate the most with 1.6. They tried to make combat more fluid and responsive with some of the animation changes however weapon swap completely negated that.
  • Teargrants
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    They were tired of Templars complaining about Toppling Charge GCD, so they added a CD that would effect everyone.

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  • monkeymystic
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    Lionxoft wrote: »
    I agree. Weapon swap is one of the things I hate the most with 1.6. They tried to make combat more fluid and responsive with some of the animation changes however weapon swap completely negated that.

    Yep.

    They talk about all the improvements to combat/gameplay, but forget that they shot themselves massively in the foot with this one.

    To Zos: Nobody cares about the combat "improvements" if you break the core of it with this combat swap clunkiness.
    New players will try it out, and quit because they don't like swap LAG in combat..(who wouldnt?)
    Edited by monkeymystic on 11 February 2015 12:00
  • Oughash
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    The weapon swap cool down is absolutely infuriating. It gets me killed.

    PS. It ruins my immersion.
  • Soulac
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    Quick proof that this change is the worst thing ever:
    - You fighting against a sorc or someone who got an ability which travels (NB got Cripple, Sorcs shard as example)
    - You got reflect on your off-bar, so you need to swap weapons for it.
    - While you´re fight him you see the animation of the skill, its already on the way.
    Two possible ways:
    Either you casted a skill right before that and every reaction is useless except a damn dodge or you were lucky, swap weapons fast and use reflect.

    All about luck, not about reactiontime..
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  • Sarousse
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    I love the new weapon swap, I prevents me from fail-triple-switches and is responsive enough.
  • Sharee
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    From what i understand, the delay was put in so that people do not mistakenly swap weapon twice when hitting the button in lag situations (you hit swap, nothing happens, you think it did not get registered so you hit it again, and it swaps twice back and forth). With the delay, while in lag situation, you can hammer the key 2-3 times to make sure the message got through and you will only see one swap.

    If this is a problem, you should be able to swap directly to the bar you want. 1.6 has two new keybinds - besides swap, there are also 'switch to bar 1' and 'switch to bar 2' buttons that (i believe) should have no delay associated with them, since mistakenly switching twice is not possible when using them.
  • Rydik
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    Yup, new weapon swap stupid...
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    go back to instant weapon swap please Eric Worble!! this gets me killed more then anything with its lack of responsiveness. when you think you swap and you dont you cast an ability on the same damn bar and cant swap again, and when you think you swap you dont and cast the wrong damn bar again and Dead cause i couldnt get to my heal/ sheild. then RAGE.

    almost every fight im in.
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  • Ezareth
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    Wait...they added a *delay* to weapon swap now?
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Wait...they added a *delay* to weapon swap now?

    Yup, I noticed it last night while dueling and messing around at Alessia Farm and Nikel outpost. there is definitely a noticeable cool down to weapon swapping in combat now.

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