PTS Duels - Magicka Nightblade 1.6+ Build/Testing Preview

Sypher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBfUTs62iw

Been testing on a caster resto/destro based Nightblade. Here are a few duels showcasing the build and play style behind it.

Hope you enjoy!

Panda244

Nice video, I personally really don't like 1.6 because it renders a lot of popular builds that use to work nicely in 1.5 useless, so all the time we put into those, aren't workable anymore. Then there's the nerf to our stats... But oh well.

I feel like Magicka NBs and DKs got the short end of the stick with the changes to Surprise Attack/Ambush and Unstable Flame, and they took away the miss chance from Cinder Storm!! >_<

But then the full health damage shield from ferocious leap so.. ZOS giveth, ZOS taketh. That moment when I look back at character select and the ten minutes I pondered making Crassus a Templar.............

IxSTALKERxI

Nice vid! I noticed Araxleon using a lot of the same skills. Seems to be the sort of playstyle needed for magicka nb builds now.

Soulac

Destro is so boring, even if you played good..
say no to Destro!

cwp303b14_ESO

I think the play style looks pretty fun. Sorta like a yo-yo with the kiting and running in for a stealthed concealed blade.

I have 2 questions off the top of my head:

1. Why did you choose a lightning staff? What is it about channeled heavy attacks that make them more desirable?

2. I noticed that you don't have an execute(Impale). Was it something you found unnecessary for finishing targets or was it not valuable enough to slot over other skills? I feel like it would be important for burst and the resource regen in 1vX situations.

aco5712

cwp303b14_ESO wrote: »

I think the play style looks pretty fun. Sorta like a yo-yo with the kiting and running in for a stealthed concealed blade.

I have 2 questions off the top of my head:

1. Why did you choose a lightning staff? What is it about channeled heavy attacks that make them more desirable?

2. I noticed that you don't have an execute(Impale). Was it something you found unnecessary for finishing targets or was it not valuable enough to slot over other skills? I feel like it would be important for burst and the resource regen in 1vX situations.

Lightning reduces dmg which is nice for a light armour build that is squishy and relies on shields. Also it cant be reflected like the other 2. Could be either of those 2 reasons or maybe he has another.

Fusilero

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

Soulac

cwp303b14_ESO wrote: »

I think the play style looks pretty fun. Sorta like a yo-yo with the kiting and running in for a stealthed concealed blade.

I have 2 questions off the top of my head:

1. Why did you choose a lightning staff? What is it about channeled heavy attacks that make them more desirable?

2. I noticed that you don't have an execute(Impale). Was it something you found unnecessary for finishing targets or was it not valuable enough to slot over other skills? I feel like it would be important for burst and the resource regen in 1vX situations.

1. Ignores block and reflect
2. Average health is at around 20k, meaning that Impale is able to proc at around 5k health left. Crushing shock uncrit deals this kind of dmg already and even if not you got your dots, you will get to 5k dmg in this second.

Impale is probably a couple of ms faster and easier, but not necessary in my opinion and not worth a slot.

Siphoning or Destro Range are the way to go I think.
Siphoning range is actually funny with S&B reflect, but Destro got higher Dps.

I tested the siphoning build yesterday combined with whitestrake and the HPS are that high that a simple whitestrake proc gets me enough time to get up to 75% health again.
Dmg with three dots and Funnel Health is quit enough.. But range compared to melee is not that funny..

Erondil

Soulac wrote: »

Destro is so boring, even if you played good..
say no to Destro!

+1
What about our duels sypher? You killed me more than the contrary, but my melee magicka build still competitive agaisnt you :P

Mumyo

Panda244 wrote: »

Nice video, I personally really don't like 1.6 because it renders a lot of popular builds that use to work nicely in 1.5 useless, so all the time we put into those, aren't workable anymore. Then there's the nerf to our stats... But oh well.

Im very glad they got rid of the perma s&b blockers in their boring frocks as u saw them since beta.
Now they finally have to be creative.

Maulkin

Fusilero wrote: »

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

You wait till every sorc starts running S&B reflect and BoL, virtually unkillable by magicka builds.

Bipolo

Soulac wrote: »

Destro is so boring, even if you played good..
say no to Destro!

This

Edit: and the TTK without shield stacking, geez

Soulac

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Fusilero wrote: »

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

You wait till every sorc starts running S&B reflect and BoL, virtually unkillable by magicka builds.

You already absorb every projectile, why using another ability to reflect then?

Maulkin

Soulac wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Fusilero wrote: »

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

You wait till every sorc starts running S&B reflect and BoL, virtually unkillable by magicka builds.

You already absorb every projectile, why using another ability to reflect then?

Absorb is absorb, reflect is reflect.

Whenever I want to push you, I let the BoL run out and use your offensive power (Crushy, Frags, Stone Fist, whatever) against you to create bursts of damage. Also BoL can notoriously bug out and leave you hanging, so Posture is another layer of protection. And for a sorc the reflect stun is my longest form of CC, everything else barely lasts 2".

Very very few players have shields up 100% of the time. When I notice your shields going down, I make my move. Also a lot of players think it's my mistake forgetting to reapply the BoL and actually use their strongest projectile against me, when in fact that's exactly what I'm baiting. That's my tactic.

I've been dueling quite a bit with Doges, ask him how brutal it can be getting your Crushy Shock returned to you along with a Velocious Curse proc and a Frag Proc from me. Doges has wisened up to it after all our duels, like I did against his Detonation + Streak combo, and now we mostly draw after 20+ mins. But I'm winning the vast majority of my duels against other ranged casters by using the S&B reflect.

Derra's stupid pet build seems to be the counter though, as the pets do a lot of unreflectable damage and without reflects I can't push another player hard enough with just Frag Procs and Velocious Curse.

AriBoh

Am I right in saying your only heals are from Healing Ward, Syphon Spirit and Entropy's secondary effect?

Sypher

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Am I right in saying your only heals are from Healing Ward, Syphon Spirit and Entropy's secondary effect?

Yes, and the occasional potion.

Lava_Croft

Well played, but Destro/Resto meh. So incredibly boring.

AriBoh

Sypher wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Am I right in saying your only heals are from Healing Ward, Syphon Spirit and Entropy's secondary effect?

Yes, and the occasional potion.

So why Spirit over Quick Syphon? Does 1% magika return make much of a difference?

Soulac

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Am I right in saying your only heals are from Healing Ward, Syphon Spirit and Entropy's secondary effect?

Yes, and the occasional potion.

So why Spirit over Quick Syphon? Does 1% magika return make much of a difference?

1% for each attack.
Shadow image counts as attacks, light attack does and the skill itself too.

Decimus_Rex

Stick and Skirt is back in fashion.

That is sooo 1980's Buffy !

http://youtu.be/YAIjVeG4_S8

Sypher

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Am I right in saying your only heals are from Healing Ward, Syphon Spirit and Entropy's secondary effect?

Yes, and the occasional potion.

So why Spirit over Quick Syphon? Does 1% magika return make much of a difference?

1 light attack + 1 force shock = 4 attacks = 4% magicka return. Mix that with the elemental drain magicka return and other abilities such as shade/cripple and it adds up.

But in open world I will probably use quick siphon because it's more reliable while outnumbered.

Araxleon

well if ya'll wanna donate <.< I could make a hybrid build already
PS; I cant promise that 50% of profits will go to tri pots
jk jk

Fusilero

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Fusilero wrote: »

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

You wait till every sorc starts running S&B reflect and BoL, virtually unkillable by magicka builds.

i have been using S&B reflect for a long time . it is just the fastest way to kill a dk. better than a crushing schock build cause u dont have to wait so much to get a good timing with that build...

Maulkin

Fusilero wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Fusilero wrote: »

now every sorc use BoL.....f* u 1.6!

You wait till every sorc starts running S&B reflect and BoL, virtually unkillable by magicka builds.

i have been using S&B reflect for a long time . it is just the fastest way to kill a dk. better than a crushing schock build cause u dont have to wait so much to get a good timing with that build...

Well yes, that's how the build came about. From non-DK duelists trying to find a way past the epic skill that is Reflective Scales.

But it's immensely effective against any ranged caster, not just DKs.

I does leave you a bit short of burst damage in open PvP though, as a Sorc at least, which is a fair trade I suppose. If I had a penny for every time I've had an enemy knocked down and I was sitting there spamming my feeble Endless Fury praying to Satan for a Frag proc XD

WRX

How did it show the guild they were in??

Sypher

WRX wrote: »

How did it show the guild they were in??

"Social Indicators Add On" from ESOui

TheBucket

I know you like those staff builds sypher so I'll leave you to it. Good vid

Sypher

TheBucket wrote: »

I know you like those staff builds sypher so I'll leave you to it. Good vid

They butchered my old magicka melee build, So I just looked for different options.

Lionxoft

Petrify needs to be fixed. That DK attempting the stun lock should be ashamed of such gimmicky playstyle.

TheBucket

Sypher wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

I know you like those staff builds sypher so I'll leave you to it. Good vid

They butchered my old magicka melee build, So I just looked for different options.

Wait till you see my bomber a.k.a. Witcher build lol.

Zershar_Vemod

Sypher wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

I know you like those staff builds sypher so I'll leave you to it. Good vid

They butchered my old magicka melee build, So I just looked for different options.

I feel you.

I might give this build a shot on the PTs, though the transition from heavy>light will be interesting haha.