1.6 one of a kind update for mmo's history

RazielSR

IMO, the game is not for us anymore. It is for console players. The game is done,but its ok if some have hopes. And I understand that you like the game and dont want it to be what is gonna be. In fact I lost a lot of time fooling myself since beta days. But you have to be blind to not see that the game now is just made for console players,to sell boxes and let them make the same content you already did faking it all with cp.Thats all.

Panda244

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

Galalin

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

@Galalin Can you clairify two things for us so we can get a better understanding on where you are coming from.

1) What TES/Ultima games you have played in the past plus the hours put into them.

2) What MMO games you have played in the past and the hours put into them?

Thank you.

1) i have not played many TES games... single player games are not my thing... im playing ESO strictly for the fact it is an mmo.

2) ultima online, everquest, lineage 1&2, shadowbane, DaoC, WoW, Warhammer, guild wars 1&2, 4 story, Darkfall are the ones i can think of.... other than lineage i have played each more than 2yrs.

Im not a casual but i dont have the time to be hardcore either. Although i ised to play hardcore years ago i do still try to put in as much time as my careers allow.

I think I get it. You have to understand the history of TES games to see where these updates being implemented in 1.6 and future updates are trying to bridge the gap between a MMO and what players of TES who have never played an MMO before are expecting when the put the disc in the ps4 / Xbox one on launch date. If a consol gamer pops this game in as it stands right now they won't be playing it for very long because other then some quest styles being the same and the lore it's not the same experience, not even close.

Are we playing on consoles here? I personally could care less about what they do to consoles as im paying to play on PC. I don't understand your reasoning here but thats your opinion. Also this game was released as an mmo, was it not?

Joejudas

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Eloquently spoken, @Warriorofthewind. I wish there was an applause button, but there isn't one, so you will have to settle for an awesome.

I have put several hours on the PTS. My characters all feel STRONGER than they do on live even though I forgot to add the champion points until after my test. Yes, one of the four VRs is a V14.

Yes, I do agree that 1.6 is a first. The game is VASTLY improved. It is not perfect but it is certainly better than it is on live. Only problem with the pts is a lot of my guildies haven't downloaded it so the chat is missing. As I come from a TES background, this isn't a real problem but I have found that I do like the chatter.

I realize that I will be gaining lols because I am liking the changes. Oh well. I am entitled to my opinion just as others are entitled to their opinions. If you don't like the game, nothing is keeping you here. Just leave. It will likely improve the game for everyone. The haters can find another game, and the rest of us can play in peace.

To quote Star Trek, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." Wanna guess where the 'gear farmers' are? I will give you a hint. It is not the many. Player crafted sets are stronger than the dropped gear.

And the old guy in the wedding dress is funny. I think I saw him at the PvP test last night.

So what level is this character that feel stronger and what class? I'm guessing it's around a vr3 temp who isn't wearing end game trial gear. Don't mean to be disrespectful but temps got buffs and everyone else took lots of nerfs

Galalin

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

May the goddess of the nikel mushroom be with you and the cyrodiil deer watch over your soul.

Galalin

RazielSR wrote: »

IMO, the game is not for us anymore. It is for console players. The game is done,but its ok if some have hopes. And I understand that you like the game and dont want it to be what is gonna be. In fact I lost a lot of time fooling myself since beta days. But you have to be blind to not see that the game now is just made for console players,to sell boxes and let them make the same content you already did faking it all with cp.Thats all.

I agree i am more than likely fooling myself but i still can't let go of the hope yet... march 17th will likely be a sad day for me as a result. Even with the small chance of change i must wait and see

Avatar1109

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Avatar1109

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

@Galalin Can you clairify two things for us so we can get a better understanding on where you are coming from.

1) What TES/Ultima games you have played in the past plus the hours put into them.

2) What MMO games you have played in the past and the hours put into them?

Thank you.

1) i have not played many TES games... single player games are not my thing... im playing ESO strictly for the fact it is an mmo.

2) ultima online, everquest, lineage 1&2, shadowbane, DaoC, WoW, Warhammer, guild wars 1&2, 4 story, Darkfall are the ones i can think of.... other than lineage i have played each more than 2yrs.

Im not a casual but i dont have the time to be hardcore either. Although i ised to play hardcore years ago i do still try to put in as much time as my careers allow.

I think I get it. You have to understand the history of TES games to see where these updates being implemented in 1.6 and future updates are trying to bridge the gap between a MMO and what players of TES who have never played an MMO before are expecting when the put the disc in the ps4 / Xbox one on launch date. If a consol gamer pops this game in as it stands right now they won't be playing it for very long because other then some quest styles being the same and the lore it's not the same experience, not even close.

Are we playing on consoles here? I personally could care less about what they do to consoles as im paying to play on PC. I don't understand your reasoning here but thats your opinion. Also this game was released as an mmo, was it not?

To be correct I think it was released as an Elder Scrolls game online. As for the reasoning it's simple, TES wouldn't exist without its consol fan base and I believe the investment group that help ZOS fund this game had that in mind. Again if you want another cookie-cutter MMO then play one rather then begging for this one to be WoW with TES lore.

Galalin

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

@Galalin Can you clairify two things for us so we can get a better understanding on where you are coming from.

1) What TES/Ultima games you have played in the past plus the hours put into them.

2) What MMO games you have played in the past and the hours put into them?

Thank you.

1) i have not played many TES games... single player games are not my thing... im playing ESO strictly for the fact it is an mmo.

2) ultima online, everquest, lineage 1&2, shadowbane, DaoC, WoW, Warhammer, guild wars 1&2, 4 story, Darkfall are the ones i can think of.... other than lineage i have played each more than 2yrs.

Im not a casual but i dont have the time to be hardcore either. Although i ised to play hardcore years ago i do still try to put in as much time as my careers allow.

I think I get it. You have to understand the history of TES games to see where these updates being implemented in 1.6 and future updates are trying to bridge the gap between a MMO and what players of TES who have never played an MMO before are expecting when the put the disc in the ps4 / Xbox one on launch date. If a consol gamer pops this game in as it stands right now they won't be playing it for very long because other then some quest styles being the same and the lore it's not the same experience, not even close.

Are we playing on consoles here? I personally could care less about what they do to consoles as im paying to play on PC. I don't understand your reasoning here but thats your opinion. Also this game was released as an mmo, was it not?

To be correct I think it was released as an Elder Scrolls game online. As for the reasoning it's simple, TES wouldn't exist without its consol fan base and I believe the investment group that help ZOS fund this game had that in mind. Again if you want another cookie-cutter MMO then play one rather then begging for this one to be WoW with TES lore.

I don't think you are understanding what im getting at sir... i don't want wow i don't want other mmo's in eso... it has nothing to do with it. Its the fact ppl including myself have played since beta putting in time and effort to make gains in skill, gear and builds. For ZoS to release an expansion with no new content and to take away from all of the above is not an expansion but a way in my view to extend the game life without contributing anything new but the chump system. Which in turn just takes from our exisiting skils, stats, and gear and replaces them in the chump system at over the top amounts of xp without adding new content thus forcing us to replay all the same stuff we have completed to earn back essentially the same stats etc. We have now over an extremely long time. Also 70 points to the ppl who have already completed this content is a slap in the face as new ppl will gain all the cp as they progress throught it and those who have completed are left high and dry

Galalin

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

@Galalin Can you clairify two things for us so we can get a better understanding on where you are coming from.

1) What TES/Ultima games you have played in the past plus the hours put into them.

2) What MMO games you have played in the past and the hours put into them?

Thank you.

1) i have not played many TES games... single player games are not my thing... im playing ESO strictly for the fact it is an mmo.

2) ultima online, everquest, lineage 1&2, shadowbane, DaoC, WoW, Warhammer, guild wars 1&2, 4 story, Darkfall are the ones i can think of.... other than lineage i have played each more than 2yrs.

Im not a casual but i dont have the time to be hardcore either. Although i ised to play hardcore years ago i do still try to put in as much time as my careers allow.

I think I get it. You have to understand the history of TES games to see where these updates being implemented in 1.6 and future updates are trying to bridge the gap between a MMO and what players of TES who have never played an MMO before are expecting when the put the disc in the ps4 / Xbox one on launch date. If a consol gamer pops this game in as it stands right now they won't be playing it for very long because other then some quest styles being the same and the lore it's not the same experience, not even close.

Are we playing on consoles here? I personally could care less about what they do to consoles as im paying to play on PC. I don't understand your reasoning here but thats your opinion. Also this game was released as an mmo, was it not?

To be correct I think it was released as an Elder Scrolls game online. As for the reasoning it's simple, TES wouldn't exist without its consol fan base and I believe the investment group that help ZOS fund this game had that in mind. Again if you want another cookie-cutter MMO then play one rather then begging for this one to be WoW with TES lore.

I don't think you are understanding what im getting at sir... i don't want wow i don't want other mmo's in eso... it has nothing to do with it. Its the fact ppl including myself have played since beta putting in time and effort to make gains in skill, gear and builds. For ZoS to release an expansion with no new content and to take away from all of the above is not an expansion but a way in my view to extend the game life without contributing anything new but the chump system. Which in turn just takes from our exisiting skils, stats, and gear and replaces them in the chump system at over the top amounts of xp without adding new content thus forcing us to replay all the same stuff we have completed to earn back essentially the same stats etc. We have now over an extremely long time. Also 70 points to the ppl who have already completed this content is a slap in the face as new ppl will gain all the cp as they progress throught it and those who have completed are left high and dry.

If they made it progressive like adding new gear and content it would not be as big of an issue

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

Panda244

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

Avatar1109

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

No need to brag now

Panda244

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

No need to brag now

What? I could be overcompensating for something. Jeese! All these people assuming I have high self esteem!

sweetasbabyrwb17_ESO

Completely agree with u Galalin. Chump points and stat increase a total smoke screen. I have worked hard to get my toons to were they are to have them weakened, pisses me off. The only reason they increaseed stats is because a measly 0.2% increase wouldnt show in the old system. False economy. 70 cp points not enough for people who have been here from the start. Not asking for 1000s of them but just balance it a bit more with a few more cps. Hope u dont unsub will miss battling u.

Galalin

sweetasbabyrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Completely agree with u Galalin. Chump points and stat increase a total smoke screen. I have worked hard to get my toons to were they are to have them weakened, pisses me off. The only reason they increaseed stats is because a measly 0.2% increase wouldnt show in the old system. False economy. 70 cp points not enough for people who have been here from the start. Not asking for 1000s of them but just balance it a bit more with a few more cps. Hope u dont unsub will miss battling u.

I am hoping for the best... so many good friends and foes it will be really hard if they don't rethink some of this

Avatar1109

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

No need to brag now

What? I could be overcompensating for something. Jeese! All these people assuming I have high self esteem!

I'm sorry

fromtesonlineb16_ESO

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

Ah, the L2P response from the hardcore.

/clap

Panda244

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

Ah, the L2P response from the hardcore.

/clap

Bhahahahahaha... I'm not a hardcore player, I'm like medium-core... But I prefer softcore... /wink wink nudge nudge.

K I'll stop now before I get snipped.

Avatar1109

Panda244 wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

Ah, the L2P response from the hardcore.

/clap

Bhahahahahaha... I'm not a hardcore player, I'm like medium-core... But I prefer softcore... /wink wink nudge nudge.

K I'll stop now before I get snipped.

/snipped

Panda244

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Avatar1109 wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

First where did i disrespect you / it shows your attention span.

@Galalin I think it is you who is the one on the path of disrespecting people with endless comments like the above. You have made similar ones to me calling me childish and making other obviously ignorant comments about people's intelligence.

Galalin cannot be disrespectful or rude, you can interrupt it as disrespectful and rude. But the man does not have it in him to be either. Galalin is a scrub. And he's my scrub. So back off my hombre! Hombre!

If that's the case how come I feel offended every time he addresses me? It can't be a matter of how I interrupt it. Either way a scrub ain't gonna get no love from me.

Hanging from the passenger side of his best friend's ride, trying to hollah at me.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the continued delay of more solo content. I do have fun doing the Crag delve and story dungeons ( they are really fawking HUGE!!) they are extremely hard to do without a solid group, and a solid group is hard to find given my odd hours these days. I work evenings, so by the time I get home most people are asleep or winding down. Not only that the way the quest progression is in some of these dungeons even for repeatable quests, if you don't go start to finish with 4 people, you're screwed.

I was in a grp that managed to 3 man most of Shada's Tear until the second half, and we tried getting a friend to help as the 4th member. We still couldn't progress to the final stage because we'd killed one of the other bosses already and had completed the water cleansing part.

I'm hoping that once the foundation is laid that you have stuff to spend ON, they'll give you stuff to spend WITH aka more content in the form of IC, Wrothgar, and Murkwater. Both of those were marketed as solo adventure zones. I like running instances with friends and people, but at heart I prefer to play the game as though it were Skyrim with a buddy list.

I solo'd every crag dungeon on my NB and my DK...

Get gud gurl!

Ah, the L2P response from the hardcore.

/clap

Bhahahahahaha... I'm not a hardcore player, I'm like medium-core... But I prefer softcore... /wink wink nudge nudge.

K I'll stop now before I get snipped.

/snipped

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What was this original thread even about?

Avatar1109

Stat buffs

kewl

Galalin wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Joejudas wrote: »

Yeah all my gear from the last 10 months is garbage now. My character stats and abilties and garbage now. PvP has some more serious issues now. It's going down the toilet with this update unless they change it.

At almost every WOW expansion, our stuff is just garbage and we have to renew it. In most MMO where a season system is implemented, our stuff is just garbage when the new season starts and we have to renew our stuff. This is quite usual in MMOs. And this not a problem.

In most mmo's the gear is replaced by newer better gear and new content...

Care to compare?

Just sayin

@Galalin you freakin' nailed it! I don't care when Bliz nerfs my gear and stats, because they add new content and means progression. In fact, I look forward to it!

ZO$ is implementing the same blanket nerfs with no new means of progression...for up to 8 months. WTF!

+5 bacon for you.

angelyn

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

Galalin

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

Thank you for posting this here... this is exactly what i have been talking about but haven't taken the time to do exact calculations

kewl

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

This is amazing! So insightful that I clicked insightful on a bunch of your other posts. Thank you for bringing facts to the table. Wonder how the fanbois will react?

WarrioroftheWind_ESO

kewl wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

This is amazing! So insightful that I clicked insightful on a bunch of your other posts. Thank you for bringing facts to the table. Wonder how the fanbois will react?

Probably as staunchly as the Negative Nancies.

I still see too many people writing this off without barely any thought. Heck just the other day a new version of the patch went live and introduced various tweaks. I've also been told recently that several people who were so vocal the other day have since then made an about face and retained or renewed their subs. Heck I even spotted one guy who'd stated his sub was expiring imminently days ago today during PVP.

I would like to be proven wrong in my assumptions and see more people come back or stick it out. Because in all honesty if there are people that can't be satisfied in this game than there's likely no other game that will satisfy them.

There's still 2 months to go. Week isn't half over yet. There'll likely be another iteration next maint period. Keep being vocal, keep being the squeaky wheel. Back up your arguments with math and suggestions. As much as I LOATHE Ezareth, he can spew out the dps and the numbers to back it up.

Galalin

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

This is amazing! So insightful that I clicked insightful on a bunch of your other posts. Thank you for bringing facts to the table. Wonder how the fanbois will react?

Probably as staunchly as the Negative Nancies.

I still see too many people writing this off without barely any thought. Heck just the other day a new version of the patch went live and introduced various tweaks. I've also been told recently that several people who were so vocal the other day have since then made an about face and retained or renewed their subs. Heck I even spotted one guy who'd stated his sub was expiring imminently days ago today during PVP.

I would like to be proven wrong in my assumptions and see more people come back or stick it out. Because in all honesty if there are people that can't be satisfied in this game than there's likely no other game that will satisfy them.

There's still 2 months to go. Week isn't half over yet. There'll likely be another iteration next maint period. Keep being vocal, keep being the squeaky wheel. Back up your arguments with math and suggestions. As much as I LOATHE Ezareth, he can spew out the dps and the numbers to back it up.

Keep being vocal? So you can keep calling us negative nancies? Pointing out whats wrong with 1.6 is the only way to maybe get it changed... as you just said and in the same post calling ppl who do negative nancies. You think we want to quit after playing since beta? Get your stories straight here... sorry if this sounds harsh but you have been harassing me in all my posts so excuse my lack of patients.

I plan to stay vocal about what i don't like in hopes that it will change and i will be able to find it rewarding enough to continue playing. I can only hope they continue to work and change things... thats not being negative btw

DK Scrub out

kewl

Galalin wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

This is amazing! So insightful that I clicked insightful on a bunch of your other posts. Thank you for bringing facts to the table. Wonder how the fanbois will react?

Probably as staunchly as the Negative Nancies.

I still see too many people writing this off without barely any thought. Heck just the other day a new version of the patch went live and introduced various tweaks. I've also been told recently that several people who were so vocal the other day have since then made an about face and retained or renewed their subs. Heck I even spotted one guy who'd stated his sub was expiring imminently days ago today during PVP.

I would like to be proven wrong in my assumptions and see more people come back or stick it out. Because in all honesty if there are people that can't be satisfied in this game than there's likely no other game that will satisfy them.

There's still 2 months to go. Week isn't half over yet. There'll likely be another iteration next maint period. Keep being vocal, keep being the squeaky wheel. Back up your arguments with math and suggestions. As much as I LOATHE Ezareth, he can spew out the dps and the numbers to back it up.

You think we want to quit after playing since beta?

Didn't want to cancel my sub for the same reason. But I couldn't justify paying for beta any longer. With two weeks of sub left, I've been playing on the PTS exclusively. Wish I could say it has rekindled my passion for ESO.

I may be back after it goes free. But there really isn't anything compelling me to continue.....except for PvP with DIG.

Galalin

kewl wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

As I pointed out in this thread- hardly anything levelled in a 1-10 manner.Regardless of the ratio, I think many people are finding that the Champion Points aren't making up what was subtracted from multiple stats in the conversion from live to PTS.

angelyn wrote: »

• Health scaled on 1:7 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina scaled on 1:9 Ratio
• Health Regen scaled on 1:11.5 Ratio
• Magicka/Stamina Regen scaled on 1:11 Ratio
• Heavy/Medium Armour scaled on 1:4 Ratio
• Light Armour scaled on 1:2 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:7 Ratio
• Some mobs health scaled on a 1:9 Ratio

FEEDBACK

• I understand that with the addition of champion points some balancing was required so that we didn't walk around in god mode, but why were they nerfed by that much?
  
• However,the champion points I have don't seem to make up the difference.Other people are finding the same issue. See this thread, and this one
  
• Does the total amount of champion points in the game= the amount needed to get back to our previous stats?Because if they do, that's totally not cool.
  
• How many champion points will I need to get my stats back?
  
• How much XP will I need to get enough champion points to combat the nerf?
  
• How long will it take me to get that much XP?

This is amazing! So insightful that I clicked insightful on a bunch of your other posts. Thank you for bringing facts to the table. Wonder how the fanbois will react?

Probably as staunchly as the Negative Nancies.

I still see too many people writing this off without barely any thought. Heck just the other day a new version of the patch went live and introduced various tweaks. I've also been told recently that several people who were so vocal the other day have since then made an about face and retained or renewed their subs. Heck I even spotted one guy who'd stated his sub was expiring imminently days ago today during PVP.

I would like to be proven wrong in my assumptions and see more people come back or stick it out. Because in all honesty if there are people that can't be satisfied in this game than there's likely no other game that will satisfy them.

There's still 2 months to go. Week isn't half over yet. There'll likely be another iteration next maint period. Keep being vocal, keep being the squeaky wheel. Back up your arguments with math and suggestions. As much as I LOATHE Ezareth, he can spew out the dps and the numbers to back it up.

You think we want to quit after playing since beta?

Didn't want to cancel my sub for the same reason. But I couldn't justify paying for beta any longer. With two weeks of sub left, I've been playing on the PTS exclusively. Wish I could say it has rekindled my passion for ESO.

I may be back after it goes free. But there really isn't anything compelling me to continue.....except for PvP with DIG.

I'm here till the 17th for sure and i hope they get wnough right for us all to come back and play happily ever after