ojameswb14_ESO wrote: »I agree with OP. Gaining 400k experience in one hour seems impossible.
They said
ojameswb14_ESO wrote: »I agree with OP. Gaining 400k experience in one hour seems impossible.
They said a veteran level takes about 8-10 hours. Seein as they said that champion points would take about 1 hour, I honestly thought that the XP you need would be somewhere from 100.000-150.000.
Didn't expect 400.000, and that's not something I am gonna support. They said 1 hour per CP for average playing, not for grinding.
People need to adjust the mindset that everytime there is a way to upgrade their characters, they can just grind it out and be done with it.
Champion points system is designed to take years to max out. Just accept that and move on. You will gain CP over time as you normally play the game. Getting a CP will be a nice side bonus every once in a while, but other than that, pretty much ignore it. If you try to grind this one out it will drive you crazy.
People need to adjust the mindset that everytime there is a way to upgrade their characters, they can just grind it out and be done with it.
Champion points system is designed to take years to max out. Just accept that and move on. You will gain CP over time as you normally play the game. Getting a CP will be a nice side bonus every once in a while, but other than that, pretty much ignore it. If you try to grind this one out it will drive you crazy.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away from this game, and the champion point system right now is even worse and in many ways less rewarding. It's even worse for everyone who has exhausted all of the non-repeatable content, especially since ZOS decided to nerf mob kill xp into the dirt.
Nazon_Katts wrote: »Still, at the current rate questing demands 4 years /played (as in never sleep, eat, **** nor die) to get to max CP. Those XP pots better be potent and cheap.
People need to adjust the mindset that everytime there is a way to upgrade their characters, they can just grind it out and be done with it.
Champion points system is designed to take years to max out. Just accept that and move on. You will gain CP over time as you normally play the game. Getting a CP will be a nice side bonus every once in a while, but other than that, pretty much ignore it. If you try to grind this one out it will drive you crazy.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away from this game, and the champion point system right now is even worse and in many ways less rewarding. It's even worse for everyone who has exhausted all of the non-repeatable content, especially since ZOS decided to nerf mob kill xp into the dirt.
But that's what i mean.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away because it was a grind that could be done, and thus had to be done.
The CP 'grind' is impossible(4 years to max, grinding 24/7). Thus no one will do it, and thus no on has to do it to be competitive. It will just be something you gain on the side as you play, without really trying to.
Closest analogy i can think of is EVE online's skill system. It is not possible to grind it out, since it just happens to improve as you play.
Nazon_Katts wrote: »Still, at the current rate questing demands 4 years /played (as in never sleep, eat, **** nor die) to get to max CP. Those XP pots better be potent and cheap.
So basically you are looking for maxing the whole champion system in about 4 weeks max instead of having some char progression continuously for years to come.
People need to adjust the mindset that everytime there is a way to upgrade their characters, they can just grind it out and be done with it.
Champion points system is designed to take years to max out. Just accept that and move on. You will gain CP over time as you normally play the game. Getting a CP will be a nice side bonus every once in a while, but other than that, pretty much ignore it. If you try to grind this one out it will drive you crazy.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away from this game, and the champion point system right now is even worse and in many ways less rewarding. It's even worse for everyone who has exhausted all of the non-repeatable content, especially since ZOS decided to nerf mob kill xp into the dirt.
But that's what i mean.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away because it was a grind that could be done, and thus had to be done.
The CP 'grind' is impossible(4 years to max, grinding 24/7). Thus no one will do it, and thus no on has to do it to be competitive. It will just be something you gain on the side as you play, without really trying to.
Closest analogy i can think of is EVE online's skill system. It is not possible to grind it out, since it just happens to improve as you play.
Based on this, I would say a more reasonable number, to be aiming at 1 CP every 4 hours, would be somewhere in the 160-250k XP range.DeathDealer19 wrote: »I spent 5 hours give or take a few min last night questing in a vr10 zone, and im still not even halfway to 400k xp.
People need to adjust the mindset that everytime there is a way to upgrade their characters, they can just grind it out and be done with it.
Champion points system is designed to take years to max out. Just accept that and move on. You will gain CP over time as you normally play the game. Getting a CP will be a nice side bonus every once in a while, but other than that, pretty much ignore it. If you try to grind this one out it will drive you crazy.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away from this game, and the champion point system right now is even worse and in many ways less rewarding. It's even worse for everyone who has exhausted all of the non-repeatable content, especially since ZOS decided to nerf mob kill xp into the dirt.
But that's what i mean.
The veteran rank leveling drove people away because it was a grind that could be done, and thus had to be done.
The CP 'grind' is impossible(4 years to max, grinding 24/7). Thus no one will do it, and thus no on has to do it to be competitive. It will just be something you gain on the side as you play, without really trying to.
Closest analogy i can think of is EVE online's skill system. It is not possible to grind it out, since it just happens to improve as you play.
Great post there @Sharee. I think this can not be stressed out enough. This is exactly how i think of the system. The enlightened buff will keep regular players fairly close to 24/7 players.
One thing that has to be done imho is for enlightened buff to work account based and not character based. Don´t know how it is implemented atm.
The problem is most mmo players are not accustomed to such a system as its the complete opposite the majority has experienced so far.
@DeathDealer19 remember that's while enlightened. 4 hours per CP otherwise, so you may need to adjust your 40-75k XP per CP to 160-300k XP per CP if that was based on 1 hour, to match up to being 4 hours for not enlightened.DeathDealer19 wrote: »[...] they assured us it would be about an hour or so of AVERAGE GAMEPLAY.
DeathDealer19 wrote: »yeah I do understand that enlightened does play a part in it, but youre not always going to be enlightened. 400k is just too steep for people who don't have zones left to quest
Interestingly enough, that sounds close to being spot on. What sort of things were you doing in that time? It may be that XP is not balanced enough, rather than the XP to CP rate being too high.About 1,5h today and 2 CP. Though started with 150k and enlightened.
One thing that has to be done imho is for enlightened buff to work account based and not character based. Don´t know how it is implemented atm.