Enchanting really sucks!

SFBryan18

I got to VR1 yesterday and crafted my own gear. Then I found out I needed three more levels to make VR1 enchantments. I had read about how long it takes, but this is some serious BS! Not only does it take forever for the XP to go up, but I spent hours going around guild traders looking for supplies. First I tried crafting glyphs, but when they got too expensive, I started buying cheap glyphs created by other players. A couple hours later, and probably 15k in gold, I got to level 20. I can't believe I'm only half way! Apparently, not only does the experience take forever, but the resources are scarce. That's two factors that make enchanting an awful grind.

Islyn

You need to give someone rekutas/denatas and like at least lvl 7 potencies and some trash essence to make glyphs for you to decon. I am AD NA master enchanter and will help. See me at @Islyn in game. :-)

AlexDougherty

It gets a lot easier after you start crafting level 20 enchantments. It's still a grind, but you can start getting levels quicker.

A few hints for you though.

• Craft with either a friend or an alt (alternate character), you get more crafting xp from deconstructing the glyphs than you do crafting them.
• Invest in both Extraction and Hireling (but only 2 points in hireling unless you plan on logging on twelve hours after your first log on), this should give you better runes to craft with.
• Deconstruct junk Glyphs your character finds.
• Only buy Glyphs from Guild vendors if they will give you a decent amount of XP (usually Green and from the max tier you can craft, or better)
• Grab every Potency and Aspect Rune you can find, essence runes are optional, but make sure you have enough

Skullemainia

I have a really hard time finding and collecting aspect runes. I have enough of the rest. jejota and rekuta are even hard to find, how is Kuta then!!

Vlakna

you should seent it at launch. Trust me is a lot better now.

Rosveen

Meh. With the new faster system, my enchanter keeps up with my main's level. It's sooo much better than what we had at launch.

Ourorboros

LOL, have to laugh a bit at this thread since I leveled to 50 before they made it easier. This used to be a frequent forum rant. Do a search and you should find a wealth of helpful tips, though @AlexDougherty‌ gave you pretty much all you need.

SFBryan18

I didn't know they made it faster. Must have been horrible before because it's still pretty bad.

DeLindsay

Ourorboros wrote: »

LOL, have to laugh a bit at this thread since I leveled to 50 before they made it easier. This used to be a frequent forum rant. Do a search and you should find a wealth of helpful tips, though @AlexDougherty‌ gave you pretty much all you need.

This. Sorry OP I have no sympathy for you. It cost me well over 300K worth of mats to get Enchanting to even 40+ for 9/9 Potency within ~6 weeks of launch. That was with farming myself for the Runes, my Enchanting buddy doing the same, both of us having multiple Enchanting Hirelings of at least 1/3 and tons of Gold buying decon glyphs + Potency + Aspect runes. Enchanting right now is the 3rd easiest to level, behind Provisioning and Alchemy. In fact, going solely based of IP gain from crafting/decon via a Crafting buddy, Blacksmithing is the slowest to level now.

SFBryan18

Who even has 300k? Wtf. It's like, because it use to be a nightmare, it's fine now. There's nothing in between good and bad. It makes a difference to me when I still have to spend more than half my gold because l don't have someone to swap glyphs and exploit with.

DeLindsay

SFBryan18 wrote: »

Who even has 300k? Wtf. It's like, because it use to be a nightmare, it's fine now. There's nothing in between good and bad. It makes a difference to me when I still have to spend more than half my gold because l don't have someone to swap glyphs and exploit with.

Trust me all of us that leveled it before they nerfed it HATED doing so and complained on the forums constantly. Now, Enchanting is considered very easy, in comparison.

SFBryan18

If you have the gold. I didn't know it gets easier though. Something to look forward to now.

I also remember being able to buy 100 potency runes for pretty cheap. Now they are all incredibly expensive. So they might have increased the experience, but they nerfed the drops. It's still pretty expensive.

Ourorboros

Here's how you do it:

• First, get a buddy or an alt toon to swap with. This is important because the biggest gains come from deconstructing someone else's glyphs.
• Second, find a good spot to farm runes, and spend some time there running a loop to get the runes you need. Doesn't hurt to keep an eye open for bargains in guild stores, but farming is the best way to get runes. HARVESTMAP add-on makes this much easier.
• Third, focus on creating green and blues for decon swapping. The IP gain is much better than Ta, while the purple are more valuable for crafting glyphs for use.
• Fourth, learn all unknown runes for a big gain, and use skill points as your level goes up.
• Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. You don't need to hit level 50 to make VR14 glyphs.

Bonus tips: If you're a vet, starter islands in Caldwell silver and gold are all loaded with runes and chests...perfect farming locations. Chests often have glyphs, along with gold, equipment, and soul gems. Though the glyphs yield low IP, you can find a lot of them, and every bit helps. The rest of the chest goodies can be converted to support rune purchases.

Iluvrien

SFBryan18 wrote: »

If you have the gold. I didn't know it gets easier though. Something to look forward to now.

I also remember being able to buy 100 potency runes for pretty cheap. Now they are all incredibly expensive. So they might have increased the experience, but they needed the drops. It's still pretty expensive.

You don't need to do it through gold. Gold just makes it faster, as does having an Enchanting buddy.

I have gotten to 40 with neither of those things (I have never bought a glyph and I have never used the glyphs of a guildmate/friend to accelerate my own learning process). It may not be fast doing that way but it can be done. It also meant that I trekked all over the map in search for runestones so know where many resource nodes and chests are because I found them along the way... and that isn't including the many pretty locations I encountered along the way(my screenshot folder is stupidly big). Most of my advancement came from creating glyphs for myself and my guildmates (I did the latter for free which helped them and me). All in all, I don't regret the path I took at all.

I also have to admit that I value my level 42 in Enchanting far more than my levels 50 in Blacksmithing, Woodworking and Provisioning put together.

SFBryan18

I never said it was impossible. My thread claims that it really sucks. It's hard enough finding a group for group dungeons. Finding a friend for this? And the alternative of farming is also pretty weak. Wasting so much time running in circles. That's not fun.

Skullemainia

I think enchanting should be more important. and you should be able to make more stuff like armor enchants that give you more dodge chance or boots enchants that you can walk faster!! I really liked the enchanting in skyrim

Ourorboros

I was feeling sympathetic, since leveling enchanting can be quite challenging. But no more. Solid advice, really the ONLY advice, that will help has been offered, only to have it rejected. Sorry, but it's a grind to level enchanting, and anyone who chooses not to do what is required, can remain a whiny low-level enchanter.

SFBryan18

I'm obviously going to do the grind. I still can say it sucks. Did I even ask for advise? I know how to level up enchanting. It's just a pain in the ass.

Iluvrien

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I'm obviously going to do the grind. I still can say it sucks. Did I even ask for advise? I know how to level up enchanting. It's just a pain in the ass.

So your plan was, in fact, to post your opinion about the unpleasantness of a craft to a publicly accessible forum where the residents are generally known to answer statements and questions in one form or another* in the hope of receiving no response whatsoever?

O.o


(* And given that this is Crafting rather than General you tend to get more in the way of helpful advice than flames or echo-chamber style "Me too" posts.)

... we've all been there. It sucks. It now sucks a lot less than it used to. Stick at it and you will get there. The advice above may even help.

SFBryan18

Yes, my plan was to post about how much enchanting sucks to level up in the crafting section. I did get a few good tips though, so it's not completely useless.

Woolenthreads

I find that just using the Enchanting Writs alone it only takes me 3 days, ie 3 writs, to level up the skill. It was much harder before v1.5 was released as they'd screwed up the levelling XP, at some sections, prior to that point.That being, said I'm not running that character atm, having played an Alt past him, and I'm now playing a space trading game, so I'm not making any serious effort to raise his skills quickly.

# Edit: added extra punctuation to make the sentences more intelligible

AlexDougherty

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I never said it was impossible. My thread claims that it really sucks. It's hard enough finding a group for group dungeons. Finding a friend for this?.

Which is why several of us have said level up an alt for enchanting.

1. You create the glyphs.
2. Bung them in the bank.
3. Log out and bank in to the other character
4. Deconstruct the glyphs.
5. Go back to step one with the second charcter (so you end up deconstructing with the first glyph)

You can get an awful lot of XP this way, especially if you are using Kuta, I have on ocassion gone through these steps FIVE times with a single Kuta rune, which means I get the XP for constructing and deconstructing five times (that's a lot of crafting XP), but you really do need skill points in extraction for that to happen.

SFBryan18

AlexDougherty wrote: »

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I never said it was impossible. My thread claims that it really sucks. It's hard enough finding a group for group dungeons. Finding a friend for this?.

Which is why several of us have said level up an alt for enchanting.

1. You create the glyphs.
2. Bung them in the bank.
3. Log out and bank in to the other character
4. Deconstruct the glyphs.
5. Go back to step one with the second charcter (so you end up deconstructing with the first glyph)

You can get an awful lot of XP this way, especially if you are using Kuta, I have on ocassion gone through these steps FIVE times with a single Kuta rune, which means I get the XP for constructing and deconstructing five times (that's a lot of crafting XP), but you really do need skill points in extraction for that to happen.

Yea, I read that and decided it would be exactly what I am going to do. I'm getting ready to start my second character once I finish Coldharbor. Thanks for the tip.

reften

Buy your aspect runes. Max level enchanters like myself will sell blue green and purples all day. Tas we need for writs and katas for making equipment. Others are useless

ThePonzzz

Writs are definitely helpful, but once you hit mid 30s, it takes about a week with writs alone. But it's far better than it was after launch, as said. Decon all glyphs you find. Get a decon partner. Enchanting is a lucrative craft at mid VR levels if you make green/blue glyphs for people.

SpAEkus

And to the OP if you want to have exact numbers on what glyph gives what so you can maximize your returns here is a source that some of us have contributed to and rely on.

ESO Enchanting Creation/Extraction IP Reference

KBKB

100x times better now than launch.. it was beyond brutal each level after 40 was like zos going LOL@YOU

Digiman

Yes OP I know its slow and annoying, but believe its better then before the changes. As for Glyph construction you might want to hoard all the epic and legendary aspect stones glyphs until you get to 32. The reason why is you only need to get to level 40 before you can craft any glyph.

I was able to burn through 30 epic and 20 legendary aspects before I finally got to level 40. After that everything is easier. decon gave me most of those aspect stones back with all my points to aspect extraction skill and luck.

I accumulated that whole lot just by collecting all the aspect stones I could find while I leveled through the veteran content.

SFBryan18

I am now at level 32 after painfully spending a lot of gold on custom high level glyphs to deconstruct. It might be easier now, but it is still very expensive.

olsborg

Suck it up people, its not meant to max in a couple of days. (alchemy is the exception here, wich takes about 3 hours from 0 - 50)

AlexDougherty

SFBryan18 wrote: »

I am now at level 32 after painfully spending a lot of gold on custom high level glyphs to deconstruct. It might be easier now, but it is still very expensive.

Yes, it will be if you are buying them. Also recently people have raised the price of Kuta and Rekuta, so it has gone very expensive recently (past month or so).

I have just reached level 50 on enchanting and can say hand on heart, it's the toughest craft to level, much better than it used to be, but also still rock hard.