cosmoplayer wrote: »Is it my impression or the sorcerer skills are overpowered compared to the other classes?
cosmoplayer wrote: »Veteran is aggressive in battle, not need to do in the forum too.
english is not my language, but for sure is better than your italian
say that if you read the post, i'm talking about impression, early in the game,
where with 4 skill point you have a range combo cristal shard + mages fury that destroy every thing in your way.
with my DK i always have hard time soloing around against bosses.
but as i say i'm still newbie in eso (2 month), probabily at veteran rank i will change my mind. will see.
thanks for reply
One of those is an ultimate. The other two, you will probably stop using very soon (I dropped all pets around 40ish). While leveling, my DK is going at about the same rate through mobs as my sorc did (low level anyway). Also, you've now given up 4 skill slots for two abilities.- 2 summons plus the atronach, that i use to kill alone every bosses, a personal group that work all the time.
Last I checked (and it may have changed by now, I don't know), but the Twilight Matriarch heal is extremely unreliable. Also, using that pet, you've now lost two ability slots instead of one.- 30+20 health regen (on combat) and a personal healer (summon matriarch) and an unbelievable free health regen on critical strike (critical surge)
200something for negate and Storm Atronach, 94-ish for the storm calling ultimate. My templar has a 75 cost ultimate that I'd trade Overpower(?) for in a heartbeat.- free or very low cost of ultimate.
It sucks away stamina for that. Plus, it's channeled - can be interrupted, you can't move while casting it (unless you morph it). Meanwhile, my DK spams Burning Embers then walks away? Why? Because It heals, does damage and doesn't keep me from moving. It even can slow the target (passive ability).- channeling stamina for healt and magika (this is craziness)
Take a look at the destro staff final passive, the NB I think it was assassination passive? Look at them! Sorc isn't alone in that passive. Also, DK's Inferno ability - it can be morphed to give back magicka when you kill something.- free magika regen on kill over an alredy overpowered regen class + light armor
That is correct, wearing stamina armor decreases the cost of stamina abilities. There is also a passive in the 1H/shield line that decreases the cost of 1h/shield abilities. I don't see how this relates at all to sorcerer specifically...are other classes unable to wear medium armor and use shields?a lot of stamina regen and low cost abilities (medium armor and 1H & shield)
I don't even know what you're trying to say here, but I'll try.Negate magic plus shattering prison and a lot od mage furies and cfrag.
Maybe because you can just play a sorcerer better than a DK?you can still laf of me, but the reality is that the sorc is the only class let me survive and kill every thing really easily.
cosmoplayer wrote: »2 month ago, when i start to play eso, i choose DK and play for long time with it.
then, boring of dieing, i start another play game, with a mage.
it could be possible that i have a bug on my character that make him almost unkillable.
i study the sorc class a bit, and with the skill that i've choose, i got on my nord mage 35 level:
- free magika regen on kill over an alredy overpowered regen class + light armor
- 30+20 health regen (on combat) and a personal healer (summon matriarch) and an unbelievable free health regen on critical strike (critical surge)
- a lot of stamina regen and low cost abilities (medium armor and 1H & shield)
- channeling stamina for healt and magika (this is craziness)
- 2 summons plus the atronach, that i use to kill alone every bosses, a personal group that work all the time.
- free or very low cost of ultimate.
- Negate magic plus shattering prison and a lot od mage furies and cfrag.
you talk about DPS, that i don't really know much about, but my mage have a magika pool that can kill and survive very easily on pve. i really think i have a bug.
instead of lol me, please post me your build of dk, nb and templar, so i can have an idea why with the sorc i still kill every form of tamriel life, but with my dk is not so easy. with my nb (that i left at level 10) i ive up, becouse i died in every single bosss or easy dolmen .
you can still laf of me, but the reality is that the sorc is the only class let me survive and kill every thing really easily.
35 level nord mage: eso become a joke.
AlexDougherty wrote: »Two words; Molag Bal. This one is ridiculously hard for Sorcs (not gone against him with Nightblade yet, so might be worse to come for me), your spells do virtually no damage, staffs do less still, and if you have no points in other weapons then they are useless too.
The Summons get less useful in Coldharbour, although they aren't too bad for VR1, and Storm Attronach is an Ultimate, so can only be compared to other ultimates.
Once you hit VR level it gets harder against mobs, and I fear my summons will soon be useless. Magicka will go away faster without Clanfear to keep mobs away, and you will need to consider a few pieces of Heavy Armour (might not do it, but you will need to think about it).
Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »AlexDougherty wrote: »Two words; Molag Bal. This one is ridiculously hard for Sorcs (not gone against him with Nightblade yet, so might be worse to come for me), your spells do virtually no damage, staffs do less still, and if you have no points in other weapons then they are useless too.
The Summons get less useful in Coldharbour, although they aren't too bad for VR1, and Storm Attronach is an Ultimate, so can only be compared to other ultimates.
Once you hit VR level it gets harder against mobs, and I fear my summons will soon be useless. Magicka will go away faster without Clanfear to keep mobs away, and you will need to consider a few pieces of Heavy Armour (might not do it, but you will need to think about it).
Nah, if you have any decent critical chance + critical surge you should be fine for Molag Bal's fight.
Also if you realy like the summons you might want to switch the Clanfear for the Volatile Familiar. It is a bit less tanky but you can use it like a bomb when you send it back to Oblivion and it does shock damage, so it will sometimes reduces the damage output from ennemies by a bit.
If you like using both Familiars, using Conjured Ward helps a lot at keeping the Twilight Matriarch alive but it also means you have to invest at least 3 Deadric summoning skills on a single bar, leaving no room for utility if you slot your remaining Dps skills.
Finaly, there are 2 very interesting sets you can equip as a summoner :
- Necropotence can be easely found in VR10 areas and the magicka you get from that set alone is insane and is clearly best used to support your Volatile Familiar.
- Seducer is also a nice set, because the cost reduction will further reduce the huge cost of your summons and it allows comparatively to recover more magicka with Rebate + Light Armour passive when summoning new pets.
tylerdavidsonb14_ESO wrote: »So I decided to make a two handed, medium armor sorc in the hopes that it will rule as my DK, two handed medium armor dude rules. What are the chances that I will be happy and my group mates will be happy in Vet levels and trials? Has anyone seen one that high a level to know if it is decent or not?
rotaugen454 wrote: »My Vet 14 sorc feels OP in PvE, but very weak in PvP. He's squishy against human opponents, and everyone is running around in armor set to hold off crit hits.
cosmoplayer wrote: »Is it my impression or the sorcerer skills are overpowered compared to the other classes?
my hope is that in the future the dragonknight class, that i love (very powerfull), will have the same bonus like the sorcerer one.
cosmoplayer wrote: »i got lot of lol with this discussion, mannimarco was a joke and i still soloing in coldharbor, levelling dual wild and 2h witout passive, and there is no difficulty of any sort.
i find out that exploration trait have the conseguences that kick you almost 4-5 level up the zone you will start, from deshaan.
@Gyudan please correct me if I'm wrong...you just say me stop posting before what? you can disgree with my question, but you'll never have the right to pretend this.
I'll pull this out as an example. I may have interpreted it wrong due to how you type (would really like it if you cleaned the posts up a bit, by the way), but it seems you're thinking that there might be a bug making your sorcerer OP. Disregarding the first part - you're asserting that your sorc is OP. Where is your proof? Concerning your first impression - no one can really argue against your first impression of a class because it's an opinion.or even don't you think that i could have a bug somewhere that overpowered my mage?
Bow users can kill mobs from a distance, DKs with destro staves can do this, nightblades can do this...killing a mob before it gets to you is nothing special.a boring combo that wark all the time (except for very few immune cases) is shattering prison + restoratin staff heavy attack: you can make 2 heavy attack for every shattering prison, 5.4 second once morphed, and you kill mobs from distance.