exp in update 5 for undaunted..

Hortator Mopa

Thanks for adding Undaunted rank 7 and not giving exp to the people who actually played the game and did dungeon achievements and not just grind in crag... I had prior to Update 5 every "dungeons" achievement except for some trials ones and the "a word on fire". So NOW I have to get two levels in undaunted and I have only the new achievements they added to get me there..

Wont take me long to get 100 VET pledges done right?.... What a joke of a update....
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PBpsy

It levels quite fast. I tried to do COA last night and did the spindle pledge and I am already 1/3 to level 6. I think there are more than 2 levels though since each passive has to ranks

PS. We are all very impressed by how special is your snowy specialeness and are very impressed by your achievement point count. You deserve better!!!

Black_Wolf88

regardless of how fast undaunted seems to level, not giving credit in undaunted for achievements done prior to the update is just stupid and wrong.

Meaning the less achievements you have prior to patch 1.5 the faster you can level up undaunted to lvl 6 and 7.

I havent done all vet dungeon achievement yet so I have some hopes, but I know for sure I have done many dungeon achievements that would normally reward undaunted points after I got to level 5. Not getting undaunted points for them now that the level cap is increased is something im very displeased with, just like OP.

CapuchinSeven

Black_Wolf88 wrote: »

regardless of how fast undaunted seems to level, not giving credit in undaunted for achievements done prior to the update is just stupid and wrong.

It's not that wrong.

Armitas

Same boat. I have all but 1 dungeon achievement. People should feel free to earn achievements at any time in the game. Having the notion that one should wait on an achievement because they won't get the full reward is not really something you want attached to achievements.

rozcinana

Sigh. As an avid dungeoneer I love all the recent changes. I had all of the pre-patch dungeon achievements, but I'm already a chunk through the next Undaunted rank just from running a daily and CoA a couple of times. Is this really that big of a deal? And why would you want your 100 pledges achievement 5 minutes ago anyway?

If this was the Championship system and we weren't given credit for previous experience earned, that would be something to complain about. This seems trivial. Granted, I have been getting bored lately so I'm happy to have some new goals in the game. I don't want everything handed to me so quickly.

Circuitous

This is actually a legitimate concern, one would expect to be back-credited for all the achievements they've gotten, especially when that's the only way to get XP in a particular skill line. Hopefully this gets on the Known Issues list.

stumpy999

lol, have a smilely face

Hortator Mopa

Wow most of these replies have no logic in them....

1) Just do the stuff they added
A) It is much slower, why should I have to miss out on credit for things I already did when other players can do that stuff and get credit.

2) Why do you want it so fast?
A) Because I want what ever other player is allowed to get, Why do others have to play like you and why cant I do things just as fast as anyone else.

3) It gives you more to do.
A) Maybe this is not what I WANT to do. So instead I want a level and even playing field seeing I already did it all.

4) I am already close to 6 herp derp.
A) Good for you, for me to get 7 I need to do a bunch of slow achievements such as the complete 100 pledges which would take no less then 50 days +. You could get it in one night doing the right easy achievements that I did not get credit for. That means I am at a disadvantage for completing the game more then someone else prior to this update.

If you truly think that the logic behind this is "shut up stop complaining" then you are a potato at playing games. This is a clear cut disadvantage and only a player who is far behind on content because they suck would think its ok for someone better then them who actually played the game content to miss out on the benefits of being credited where credit is due.

Sometimes game communities online make no sense and need to burn.

PBpsy wrote: »

PS. We are all very impressed by how special is your snowy specialeness and are very impressed by your achievement point count. You deserve better!!!

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kongkim wrote: »

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stumpy999 wrote: »

lol, have a smilely face

Thank you but I would much rather rank 7 undaunted as I already have earned that in exp and more.
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nerevarine1138

Have you even looked at how many achievements there are for VR City of Ash? That alone should account for a whole level.

Beesting

Can you please add in your signature: /played /million gold earned /million gold spent /lowbies helped?

That way we get to know you better.

kongkim

40min

DlSTORTlON

While I'm in the same boat. I also expected to be back credited for the achievements I had done past Undaunted 5. I think it is fair that we should get the credit for achievements already done. However; I think there is some planning here on ZOS' part.

If I logged in and saw I was instantly rank 7/8 Undaunted - that's the two new passives (at least the first levels) unlocked. This is faster than those not already done the achievements.

I hope/expect that ZOS are waiting to add the backdated undaunted points in the next patch / the one after - to allow those not already done them; the time to do so and keep both parties on a level playing field.

I hope this isn't an oversight / intention. Either way we should be getting backdated points for Undaunted to be applied in a week or so.

*crosses finger and hopes not to have to do 100 pledges*

leandro.800ub17_ESO

I completed 1 VR dungeon and got 10 / 200 points to lv up
I also had completed almost all achievements before. Guess i have to do the new one and repeat allot of times the old ones

xaraan

I'm not too worried with the amount we do dungeons and having the pledges and city of ash now, BUT it is a bit f'd up that they don't give you credit for all the work you've done. (I'm still trying to earn achievements for crafting for dyes that they added where I haven't refined enough material b/c all the refining I've done before that doesn't count and you tend not to do as much refining and breaking down (unless you're a farmer) once you're max level)

Brawn

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

If you truly think that the logic behind this is "shut up stop complaining" then you are a potato at playing games. This is a clear cut disadvantage and only a player who is far behind on content because they suck would think its ok for someone better then them who actually played the game content to miss out on the benefits of being credited where credit is due.

^My new hero.

It'd be one thing if everyone started out at the same undaunted level and could raise it just as fast as anyone else. But the fact that players who have completed all of the achievements already ARE ACTUALLY BEING PENALIZED, quite heavily in terms of how long this grind is going to take, is just nuts.

Also, I wouldn't be complaining at all if they had just added in two more worthless active skills, but man. Dem passives.

Hortator Mopa

Beesting wrote: »

Can you please add in your signature: /played /million gold earned /million gold spent /lowbies helped?

That way we get to know you better.

In your eyes what is worthy of a sig?
This is a achievement that I got [snip]

Brawn wrote: »

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

If you truly think that the logic behind this is "shut up stop complaining" then you are a potato at playing games. This is a clear cut disadvantage and only a player who is far behind on content because they suck would think its ok for someone better then them who actually played the game content to miss out on the benefits of being credited where credit is due.

^My new hero.

It'd be one thing if everyone started out at the same undaunted level and could raise it just as fast as anyone else. But the fact that players who have completed all of the achievements already ARE ACTUALLY BEING PENALIZED, quite heavily in terms of how long this grind is going to take, is just nuts.

Also, I wouldn't be complaining at all if they had just added in two more worthless active skills, but man. Dem passives.

I agree and thank you. The last passive is so good... but hey apparently its easy to say "shut up" when you are not the one being held back.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Have you even looked at how many achievements there are for VR City of Ash? That alone should account for a whole level.

yea there is a lot but have you gone there? they are not fast and simple. I did all the others ones that YOU would get credit for but I didn't.

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nerevarine1138

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

Beesting wrote: »

Can you please add in your signature: /played /million gold earned /million gold spent /lowbies helped?

That way we get to know you better.

In your eyes what is worthy of a sig?
This is a achievement that I got [snip]

Brawn wrote: »

Hortator Mopa wrote: »

If you truly think that the logic behind this is "shut up stop complaining" then you are a potato at playing games. This is a clear cut disadvantage and only a player who is far behind on content because they suck would think its ok for someone better then them who actually played the game content to miss out on the benefits of being credited where credit is due.

^My new hero.

It'd be one thing if everyone started out at the same undaunted level and could raise it just as fast as anyone else. But the fact that players who have completed all of the achievements already ARE ACTUALLY BEING PENALIZED, quite heavily in terms of how long this grind is going to take, is just nuts.

Also, I wouldn't be complaining at all if they had just added in two more worthless active skills, but man. Dem passives.

I agree and thank you. The last passive is so good... but hey apparently its easy to say "shut up" when you are not the one being held back.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Have you even looked at how many achievements there are for VR City of Ash? That alone should account for a whole level.

yea there is a lot but have you gone there? they are not fast and simple. I did all the others ones that YOU would get credit for but I didn't.

Hold on there, champ. Just because I don't sign my forum posts with my achievements doesn't mean that I haven't got them already.

You receive Undaunted reputation for doing pledges and for getting the new dungeon achievements. So unruffle your feathers and get playing. I'm sure you'll be level 8 in no time, and I have no doubt we'll hear about it on the forums.
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Magdalina

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

Robocles

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But... but... that would require them to parse their database for the achievements you have so they could impute your xp. I think that's math... and programming... and work... might be too hard for them. Just sayin'.

AlnilamE

Have you filed a bug report?

Dublicious

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

Virck

I want to be your friend, you're so fortunate to have awesome people to help you with all of those vet dungeon achievements!

Magdalina

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

As already been answered...it's based on one-time achievements. If you haven't done, say, BC hardmode yet, you can go do it and get 50 points. If *I* go do BC hardmode I'll get 0 points because I've already done it. How is THAT fair?

Besides, the achievements are still all there. It should be really easy to backtrack.

Dublicious

Magdalina wrote: »

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

As already been answered...it's based on one-time achievements. If you haven't done, say, BC hardmode yet, you can go do it and get 50 points. If *I* go do BC hardmode I'll get 0 points because I've already done it. How is THAT fair?

Besides, the achievements are still all there. It should be really easy to backtrack.

NUUUUUUUPPPEEEE. I got undaunted XP last night for a dungeon I'd already done. Did you try it?

Dublicious

Robocles wrote: »

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

It's based on achievements you can't get once you've done them. He cleared the achievement, and gets no credit.

How is this unclear?

(That's rhetorical... you're a troll, here's a cookie.)

As I'd previously mentioned, NUUUUUUUUUPE (<---trolling). You'll get undaunted XP by completing the quests they do. Is it unfortunate you've already done this so you'll have to do it again instead of doing something else you've already done? (<--- more trolling, so you know now)

Magdalina

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

As already been answered...it's based on one-time achievements. If you haven't done, say, BC hardmode yet, you can go do it and get 50 points. If *I* go do BC hardmode I'll get 0 points because I've already done it. How is THAT fair?

Besides, the achievements are still all there. It should be really easy to backtrack.

NUUUUUUUPPPEEEE. I got undaunted XP last night for a dungeon I'd already done. Did you try it?

Yes. I did BC hardmode last night. My Undaunted skilltree is at 25/200 due to pledges' achieves I think. Hardmode gives 50 points, which are obviously not there. Any more questions?

Dublicious

Magdalina wrote: »

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

Dublicious wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I agree. The point isn't that we can't level it up. The point is that we ALREADY LEVELED IT UP. So where're our passives?>.>

But you didn't, cause the level wasn't there before. You maxed it, they increased the cap. How is this unclear?

As already been answered...it's based on one-time achievements. If you haven't done, say, BC hardmode yet, you can go do it and get 50 points. If *I* go do BC hardmode I'll get 0 points because I've already done it. How is THAT fair?

Besides, the achievements are still all there. It should be really easy to backtrack.

NUUUUUUUPPPEEEE. I got undaunted XP last night for a dungeon I'd already done. Did you try it?

Yes. I did BC hardmode last night. My Undaunted skilltree is at 25/200 due to pledges' achieves I think. Hardmode gives 50 points, which are obviously not there. Any more questions?

Yes, does that mean you got 25 from doing the dungeon?

Magdalina

@Dublicious, no, it means I did NOT get the 50 points I would've gotten had I not done the achievement before. 25 points are from doing 5 pledges in last few days, I think.

Again, I'm not arguing that it's impossible to level up now. I'm arguing that people that'd completed most achievements prior to 1.5 are at a HUGE disadvatange to people who had not, which is just stupid. If anything, they should be rewarding players for doing more of the harder content, not punishing them.

Cherryblossom

They added new content, what some people seem to be saying here is that I've done some stuff before can I have the new stuff without doing anything now.

Analogy time, they increase the level cap 5 levels, just because you have been doing stuff at top level for 2 months, doesn't mean you just level to top level!
They have added two levels to undaunted, erm don't want to be rude, but you should earn them like everyone else....

Shunravi

Virck wrote: »

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