New Undaunted Passives

kewl · October 2014

Two new Undaunted passives from v1.5 PTS. Looks like they are designed to incentivize specific actions.

Press X, get a bonus.

Not sure it's enough to move me from seven light.

Yusuf · October 2014

The first one is pretty awesome, synergies are really great and far too underused by the average player imo

Ysne58 · October 2014

The tool tips are both ambiguous though.

Holycannoli · October 2014

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

eNumbra · October 2014

Holycannoli wrote: »

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

1% per type of armor.

If you wear all light it's 1%
If you mix light and med or heavy it's 2%
If you mix all 3 it's 3%

Rune_Relic · October 2014

Holycannoli wrote: »

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

Only thing I can think of is
Each light piece adds 1% magicka.
Each medium piece adds 1% stamina
Each heavy piece adds 1% health
Either that or 1/7th % for each piece and 1% in total.

Chufu · October 2014

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

Only thing I can think of is
Each light piece adds 1% magicka.
Each medium piece adds 1% stamina
Each heavy piece adds 1% health

yes that's it, I've tested it. So let's say you have 5 light armor, you gain 5% magicka.

Seems like it will bring you more in your role of playing. E. g. if you need stamina, you will perhaps choose medium armor, because with the undaunted you'll now gain more % stamina. Or you mix it.

By the way, I don't know what I should think about the first passive. It's cool when we get a bonus by using synergys, but I think it could be misused.

---> There could be raids/groups who use synergys all the time, and with every click they get health, stamina and magicka. So there will be hard "X"-pressers, or not?

I would like an ultimate ability for the undaunted!

Rune_Relic · October 2014

Not sure what to make of the 1st passive myself.

I think in general its to tie in with champion system and a greater focus on your character.
After seeing the update 5...
DK = Heavy
NB = Medium
Sorc = Light

It seems they are enhancing and specialising the classes now rather than have them fit any archetype. So enhancing..
light/magicka = sorc
medium/stamina = NB
heavy/health = DK

kewl · October 2014

Chufu wrote: »

---> There could be raids/groups who use synergys all the time, and with every click they get health, stamina and magicka. So there will be hard "X"-pressers, or not?

Interesting point. Makes me wonder what kind of strats will develop around who uses synergies when.

kewl · October 2014

eNumbra wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

1% per type of armor.

If you wear all light it's 1%
If you mix light and med or heavy it's 2%
If you mix all 3 it's 3%

This is how I understand it.

Merlin13KAGL · October 2014

The first one encourages synergy use - which makes sense, as the Undaunted skills are much more powerful when synergy is utilized.

kewl wrote: »

eNumbra wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

What in the world is that second passive? You gain max to everything depending on how much armor you're wearing?

1% per type of armor.

If you wear all light it's 1%
If you mix light and med or heavy it's 2%
If you mix all 3 it's 3%

This is how I understand it.

This. It's about armor type, not number of pieces of particular type.

Still allows you to have your 5 piece of your main, but encourages one each of the other two. First point yielding up to +3% each attribute, the 2nd point another 3% (total of 6%)

Armitas · October 2014

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

kewl · October 2014

Armitas wrote: »

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

This is a really interesting point. Shields are classed as armor, but hey have no grade (light, med or heavy.) Why not?

Rosveen · October 2014

The second one has got to be the most unclear tooltip I've seen.

Michaeljdaveyb16_ESO · November 2014

kewl wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

This is a really interesting point. Shields are classed as armor, but hey have no grade (light, med or heavy.) Why not?

Because they are part of a weapon skill line!
they are also used as a weapon (shield bash)

kewl · November 2014

Michaeljdaveyb16_ESO wrote: »

they are also used as a weapon (shield bash)

Great point!

khele23eb17_ESO · November 2014

Ambiguous Tooltip Designer - job title at ZOS, probably.

Grim13 · November 2014

Question: is it possib;e to reach max level Undaunted without doing the daily dungeons?

thorspark · November 2014

kewl wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

This is a really interesting point. Shields are classed as armor, but hey have no grade (light, med or heavy.) Why not?

Shields are Heavy Armor. Figured this out when my heavy armor skill line was levelling up and I was wearing a full robe with a S&B.

NukaCola · November 2014

Is it any synergy ability or just Undaunted abilities that trigger this passive?

Merlin13KAGL · November 2014

Seems to me to be one of the clearer tooltips thus far. How many other affect 5 different things and the morph 'increases this by X%?" Increases which part?

It's by armor type. You can confirm this, even before placing a skillpoint by hovering over the tooltip:

Naked: 0%
Light: 1%
L&M: 2%
L, M, & H: 3%

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Ambiguous Tooltip Designer - job title at ZOS, probably.

@khele23eb17_ESO‌ , the interview would be interesting to sit in on:

"Vaguely tell me about yourself."

Grim13 wrote: »

Question: is it possib;e to reach max level Undaunted without doing the daily dungeons?

@grim13 , Kinda depends on when you started. If you were below Undaunted 5, then yes, should be doable. You get 50 Undaunted points for the major achieves (Damage dealer, etc) and many of the first run dungeon completions.

If you were at five, you've likely got some Undaunted points you dod not get credit for.

NukaCola wrote: »

Is it any synergy ability or just Undaunted abilities that trigger this passive?

@NukaCola‌ , any synergy - that's what they're trying to promote. Any skill that allows you to group-assist via synergy will trigger the passive.

brimits · November 2014

kewl wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

This is a really interesting point. Shields are classed as armor, but hey have no grade (light, med or heavy.) Why not?

Shields may be armour but they take a weapon slot and can be used for bash.

Rune_Relic · November 2014

brimits wrote: »

kewl wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Would be nice if a shield counted as a "heavy armor piece".

This is a really interesting point. Shields are classed as armor, but hey have no grade (light, med or heavy.) Why not?

Shields may be armour but they take a weapon slot and can be used for bash.

All the armour passive x% with x pieces of heavy armour equipped.
My shield has no effect on the heavy armour passive pieces.