Help your testers

Saet

I submitted a request for some help getting a nights silence set so I could test to see how it worked with other speed bonuses but I unfortunately got the response that giving players items wouldnt be fair to other players. This is a test server. There are very few people actually even testing here it seems. I doubt anyone would care if you helped someone test something. You dont give us crafting skills on the premade templates so we cant make the set items to test them. It takes entirely too long to level up these skills to have time to test them out. Please give us the crafting skills levelled up as well with traits unlocked so we can test everything. Or you could implement a vendor that sells crafted sets for testing purposes. Help us help you!

Shennynerd

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You want a thorough test? Give us the tools. Let us put any race in these templates. Give us all the dyes unlocked. Give us max crafting of gear. Give us all the motifs. Have a server wipe when the testing is over if that's what it takes for us to have access to the things we need to test.

madangrypally

This is why when the new sets go live a good portion of them will be broken. They added them on PTS but made no way to actually test them

timidobserver

Honestly, I would just add vending machines all over the test servers that give players anything they want, because why not.

indytims_ESO

Because they fear that players from the regular server might run over and live on PTS forever and ever, clicking their free-stuff vending machine buttons?

Koloki

indytims_ESO wrote: »

Because they fear that players from the regular server might run over and live on PTS forever and ever, clicking their free-stuff vending machine buttons?

Wipe the server every month or every testing cycle.
All MMOs with open test servers do it this way, add all the stuff to the vendors bump all chars to max lvl, let people test everything then erase all data when it goes live.
Also make the test servers available only when testing is actually performed, once 1.3.0 goes live take the PTS down until a new patch arrives for testing.

timidobserver

indytims_ESO wrote: »

Because they fear that players from the regular server might run over and live on PTS forever and ever, clicking their free-stuff vending machine buttons?

Yup, like Koloki said, since you can generate any item or anything you want, there is no need to save progress anymore.

Kiljaz

This is an absolute must for a PTS... Come on ZoS, how can we test what isn't available...

Arsenic_Touch

timidobserver wrote: »

Yup, like Koloki said, since you can generate any item or anything you want, there is no need to save progress anymore.

You can already generate infinite gold and yellow mats for materials by breaking down the yellow equipment in the templates. This would be no different. The OP is right, they have a PTS and don't let people test the majority of the content. We can't test cyrodiil properly. We can't test the guild tabards properly, or the crafting system or the dye system. It's ridiculous.

Hypertionb14_ESO

they could dumb down the grind to a easy few minute thing, and add npcs that sell materials, etc.

NukeAllTheThings

indytims_ESO wrote: »

Because they fear that players from the regular server might run over and live on PTS forever and ever, clicking their free-stuff vending machine buttons?

There is probably some truth to that fear. But, by not having everything available they are actually forcing people to stay in PTS even longer to grind and level up to use the stuff they wanted to test. Instead of spending all the time in PTS actually testing sets I would have to spend days leveling each craft line + research time + farming resources just to even get started.

Saet

if they could just disable the timers on the research that would help a lot too.

accursed1

What do you mean give you access to any race? Just like the normal server if you bought imperial edition you get your whole imperial edition given back to you, and you start from lvl 1. I'm trying to find someone to quick grind with so we can see the new content. Would have been nice to get some type of xp buff to help with the grind, as the sets, achievements and such aren't available to a lvl 1... But I guess that would fall under the same category as the guy who was crying in zone chat because he has a V12 so he thought any new toon he made would be V12. I guess if you want to test stuff you have to put in at least 50 hours to get to V1.

accursed1

And NO! If I'm grinding a new toon from Lvl1-V1 I would be pissed at a wipe.

Saet

You can roll a new v12 toon but only on the Daggerfall covenant. Even with the Imperial edition. Look in the top left corner in char creation. I think its the first option that works right now.

Grand_Wazoo

Kiljaz wrote: »

This is an absolute must for a PTS... Come on ZoS, how can we test what isn't available...

Totally agree...why bother with the PTS if there's nothing to do except more of the same?

Sunrock

I'm leveling a crafter on PTS... So far I have only 2-3 traits on all armor expect medium.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO

I agee that pts server should serve the purpose of testing. If u cant test then pts server is just alternate dimension of real game and people will be focused on getting advantage when that version goes alive and that beats the purpose of its existance. If zos wants it can be done with two versions of pts with one version of self service on which u can get that set u want to test and version where u have to earn that set. One way or another to properly test some function, feature or equipment u have to have representative sample which considers x variations. If u dont have it then u havent tested a thing and pts server should be shuted down coz functioning that way just gives false feeling of comfort to devs and players.

Rana1014

Saet wrote: »

I submitted a request for some help getting a nights silence set so I could test to see how it worked with other speed bonuses but I unfortunately got the response that giving players items wouldnt be fair to other players. This is a test server. There are very few people actually even testing here it seems. I doubt anyone would care if you helped someone test something. You dont give us crafting skills on the premade templates so we cant make the set items to test them. It takes entirely too long to level up these skills to have time to test them out. Please give us the crafting skills levelled up as well with traits unlocked so we can test everything. Or you could implement a vendor that sells crafted sets for testing purposes. Help us help you!

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