Dawnbreaker NA needs more AD for off-hours

Rylana

The only even numbers fight I ever see DC engage in involves defensive NPCs or flags with a crapton of oil.

Ive never seen DC win an open field fight vs same numbers. Not once on this cycle.

There have been so many times we have seen DC tuck and run away until they had the obvious defensive or numbers advantage. A good number of times they have outnumbered us 3 to 1, and ignored the offered defensive oilparty. Why is that? I mean thats all you ever want us to go in to.

runagate

Setting aside that my own experiences are the opposite of the above, I do what you to realize that you just implied that AD is dumb enough to wander into un-win-able oil parties whereas DC is not.

I ran into that Flag-oil-farming house one time right as the flag holder ran in, trying to stop them, but decided to go elsewhere while that party was going on. It seems a straightforwardly obvious thing to do.

aksyong

Rylana you're so full of ***. You talk big and full of pride yet when it comes to a battle you drop a banner and roll back to your 20 AD stealth behind you. Worse case? There's only 2 DC in front of you.

Rylana

The funny part about this is I havent even been playing my DK all week, ive been on my nightblade. How am I dropping a banner?

And experience has taught me two things about DC

1. There are never just two or three, there are always another 8 waiting nearby because the 2 or 3 I can see are bait

2. DC abuses stunlocks worse than EP does, therefore i treat them differently and approach them differently. Most of you are sorcs spamming crystal shards like its the best thing ever. Im not getting double stunlocked by a pair of shard spamming sorcs, you nuts?

FENGRUSH

Winnie knows Naw better than most DC. I dislike himWhy dont you ask her why he came over here.

Rylana wrote: »

Ive never seen DC win an open field fight vs same numbers. Not once on this cycle.

Ask Xortu how the fight @ nikel went when our 5 man group dumped 30+ people off the cliff side.

I had a few friends from AD in your mumble PMing me how they acknowledged being reamed out by so few people. They told me BDG had 8 people there.

AD has shown higher faction numbers the last few nights. 3 bar or pop lock everytime. DC hasnt gone to 3 bar once that Ive seen. While the numbers are equaling out - most any of the organized DC guilds will demolish BDG, and at least the 2 EP guilds running on this server as is. You could always take up the offer to fight 5v5 or something but weve already seen you just dodge offers and continue to run your mouth about numbers. Should probably let up on that until you grow some stones to back up that talk though.

Looking forward to your delusional retort.

aksyong

Rylana wrote: »

The funny part about this is I havent even been playing my DK all week, ive been on my nightblade. How am I dropping a banner?

And experience has taught me two things about DC

1. There are never just two or three, there are always another 8 waiting nearby because the 2 or 3 I can see are bait

2. DC abuses stunlocks worse than EP does, therefore i treat them differently and approach them differently. Most of you are sorcs spamming crystal shards like its the best thing ever. Im not getting double stunlocked by a pair of shard spamming sorcs, you nuts?

Don't BS.

Halrloprillalar

Just lost alessia after a really drawn out battle with the EP oceanic zerg and a handful awake AD. DC was all off for the night so they were a non-factor.

Need some oceanic/off hours AD on here, bad.

dcincali

AD does need better coordination internally. There are a few guilds that want to group and help and there are some that refuse to use /zone to tell the rest of the faction where or what they are doing. Unfortunately the ones that don't speak have the larger population. When someone calls out "Any other leaders out there want to coordinate?" *crickets* So when AD we gets our ShtT punched in, its our own fault really.

@FENGRUSH‌ Pretty sure BDG dissolved today. There was 30+ members that /gquit. I wasn't on for the drama but the roster was slim.

SwampRaider

you ask for more AD, yet AD had 3 bars last night. EP and DC havent gotten to 3 bars yet.

Rylana

SwampRaider wrote: »

you ask for more AD, yet AD had 3 bars last night. EP and DC havent gotten to 3 bars yet.

We never went above 2 bar pop on AD all night long
EP was actually population locked for almost 4 hours, and DC actually hit three bars for just under an hour, too.

We were lowpop of last night for sure.

Agrippa_Invisus

Rylana wrote: »

SwampRaider wrote: »

you ask for more AD, yet AD had 3 bars last night. EP and DC havent gotten to 3 bars yet.

We never went above 2 bar pop on AD all night long
EP was actually population locked for almost 4 hours, and DC actually hit three bars for just under an hour, too.

We were lowpop of last night for sure.

And a lot of that locked pop were some really terrible randoms that got farmed like the noobs they were at Farragut.

FENGRUSH

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

dcincali wrote: »

@FENGRUSH‌ Pretty sure BDG dissolved today. There was 30+ members that /gquit. I wasn't on for the drama but the roster was slim.

Thats probably the best news from last night. Hopefully theyll form something better and not get upset when I offer honest advice.

I take full responsibility for destroying BDG.

Halrloprillalar

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

dcincali wrote: »

@FENGRUSH‌ Pretty sure BDG dissolved today. There was 30+ members that /gquit. I wasn't on for the drama but the roster was slim.

Thats probably the best news from last night. Hopefully theyll form something better and not get upset when I offer honest advice.

I take full responsibility for destroying BDG.

Unless you have a clue what's going on, refrain from making *** up please.

FENGRUSH

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

dcincali wrote: »

@FENGRUSH‌ Pretty sure BDG dissolved today. There was 30+ members that /gquit. I wasn't on for the drama but the roster was slim.

Thats probably the best news from last night. Hopefully theyll form something better and not get upset when I offer honest advice.

I take full responsibility for destroying BDG.

Unless you have a clue what's going on, refrain from making *** up please.

I will accept your formal surrender today in person if you prefer.

Halrloprillalar

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

dcincali wrote: »

@FENGRUSH‌ Pretty sure BDG dissolved today. There was 30+ members that /gquit. I wasn't on for the drama but the roster was slim.

Thats probably the best news from last night. Hopefully theyll form something better and not get upset when I offer honest advice.

I take full responsibility for destroying BDG.

Unless you have a clue what's going on, refrain from making *** up please.

I will accept your formal surrender today in person if you prefer.

Ifthir_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

2. DC abuses stunlocks

Shouldn't this read "DC only knows how to stunlock and focus fire".

Ifthir_ESO

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

I assume you are talking about AD being farmed?

Ifthir_ESO

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I had a few friends from AD in your mumble PMing me how they acknowledged being reamed out by so few people. They told me BDG had 8 people there.

So you have people who play DC, and share AD info that comes from Mumble?

You don't see any problems with that?

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I had a few friends from AD in your mumble PMing me how they acknowledged being reamed out by so few people. They told me BDG had 8 people there.

So you have people who play DC, and share AD info that comes from Mumble?

You don't see any problems with that?

Yea I didn't even think about that. Feeding the other side numbers is inevitable, but just in bad taste.

Also, not at all sad about BDG breaking up.

FENGRUSH

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yep, this is true. Last night was a twist in numbers. Also, many being farmed... yes. An endless cycle of destruction... I actually got tired of slaughtering masses and left.

I assume you are talking about AD being farmed?

No, EP. EP had tons of randoms guesting last night. I only saw AD a few times.

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I had a few friends from AD in your mumble PMing me how they acknowledged being reamed out by so few people. They told me BDG had 8 people there.

So you have people who play DC, and share AD info that comes from Mumble?

You don't see any problems with that?

Not sure what youre asking there. People i get info from AD are AD players. Do I see an issue with it? No. They are people Im friendly with and they didnt give away any info during the fight, they fight an honest battle in game and want to win a fight the same way I do. But they are more realistic than the AD defending their honor on the forums about their losses and victories.

LonePirate

Rylana wrote: »

DC abuses stunlocks worse than EP does, therefore i treat them differently and approach them differently. Most of you are sorcs spamming crystal shards like its the best thing ever. Im not getting double stunlocked by a pair of shard spamming sorcs, you nuts?

As an EP player whose Home campaign is Dawnbreaker, nobody abuses the double stunlock more than AD does and AD is the faction with all of the Sorcerors who spam Crystal Fragments. Any time I receive the Kill 20 Sorcerors quest, I immediately start looking for AD because that quest is always a quick one when AD is active. DC, on the other hand, is filled with Templars and Nightblades. DC has some Sorcerors but not nearly as many as AD does.

Also, from the EP perspective, if there are two factions colluding with each other on Dawnbreaker, it is AD and DC because they both will go out of their way to fight EP at a scroll-less keep while the other faction is taking all of the Emperor keeps or scrolls. Of course we all know the reason for that.

Halrloprillalar

LonePirate wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

DC abuses stunlocks worse than EP does, therefore i treat them differently and approach them differently. Most of you are sorcs spamming crystal shards like its the best thing ever. Im not getting double stunlocked by a pair of shard spamming sorcs, you nuts?

As an EP player whose Home campaign is Dawnbreaker, nobody abuses the double stunlock more than AD does and AD is the faction with all of the Sorcerors who spam Crystal Fragments. Any time I receive the Kill 20 Sorcerors quest, I immediately start looking for AD because that quest is always a quick one when AD is active. DC, on the other hand, is filled with Templars and Nightblades. DC has some Sorcerors but not nearly as many as AD does.

Also, from the EP perspective, if there are two factions colluding with each other on Dawnbreaker, it is AD and DC because they both will go out of their way to fight EP at a scroll-less keep while the other faction is taking all of the Emperor keeps or scrolls. Of course we all know the reason for that.

I don't think you can really claim class distribution is distinct across factions without any statistics.

AD has never colluded with DC on this campaign. They don't even help stop EP emp pushes

kijima

I'm in AD and my home is DB. I'm usually in a group with NB's and not many sorcs at all, actually I would have said it's the other way around.

I got the kill 20 sorcs award in about 15 minutes defending a keep the other night, I was using siege equipment at the time, it 'seemed' as though every EP I hit was a sorc, so go figure.

I couldn't tell you who the guild was (if indeed it was a guild) but nonetheless it was full of sorcs, and that's my point. You cant stereotype that kind of thing, I mean you can assume, I could have that night as it would have seemed reasonable to me that a majority of EP are sorcs, but then it's an assumption based on a small snapshot of a group. And we all know that old chestnut that if you assume something, you make and a$$ out of u and me.

Halrloprillalar

I do notice a large number of NBs on AD side.

Xexpo

kijima wrote: »

I'm AD and not frustrated, quite the opposite actually.

Dawnbreaker was my original home campaign first time around, I'm still here now as I enjoyed it so much last time, so sympathy isn't required either. Not sure why you'd want to show anyone sympathy when they are having a good time?

What you have done with your post is to assume you know what everyone in AD is thinking and feeling. Well done sir, you win the internet.

If you are not "frustrated", then I guess I wasn't addressing you. Reading skills ftw.

FireCowCommando

I think its safe to say if you are on:

AD: EP and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
EP: AD and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
DC: EP and AD are working together to take away your stuff!

unless you think theres a faction that doesnt want more of your own keeps. Now can we please stop repeating this on so many posts >.>

( . Y . )

Halrloprillalar

FireCowCommando wrote: »

I think its safe to say if you are on:

AD: EP and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
EP: AD and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
DC: EP and AD are working together to take away your stuff!

unless you think theres a faction that doesnt want more of your own keeps. Now can we please stop repeating this on so many posts >.>

( . Y . )

Bewbs are not going to discourage people from complaining

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I'm pretty sure those breasts aren't even real.

LonePirate

FireCowCommando wrote: »

I think its safe to say if you are on:

AD: EP and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
EP: AD and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
DC: EP and AD are working together to take away your stuff!

I don't think AD and DC are working together to take away EP's stuff, although both alliances do enjoy it. My speculation of the AD and DC collusion is based purely on anecdotal observations. For every ten if the crossed sword skirmishes or battles or siege/resource attacks, usually four of them will be AD vs. EP, four of them will be DC vs. EP, one of them will be all three factions and one of them will be AD vs. DC. While I am fairly certain AD and DC battle each other more than I notice, they both spend far more time battling EP, respectively, than battling each other. That alone is enough to trigger plenty of conspiracy theories.

Halrloprillalar

LonePirate wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

I think its safe to say if you are on:

AD: EP and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
EP: AD and DC are working together to take away your stuff!
DC: EP and AD are working together to take away your stuff!

I don't think AD and DC are working together to take away EP's stuff, although both alliances do enjoy it. My speculation of the AD and DC collusion is based purely on anecdotal observations. For every ten if the crossed sword skirmishes or battles or siege/resource attacks, usually four of them will be AD vs. EP, four of them will be DC vs. EP, one of them will be all three factions and one of them will be AD vs. DC. While I am fairly certain AD and DC battle each other more than I notice, they both spend far more time battling EP, respectively, than battling each other. That alone is enough to trigger plenty of conspiracy theories.

anecdotal evidence is anectodal.