even rarer motif drops on latest patch?

rotatorkuf

i've been searching an area for 2 hours without a single PURPLE motif drop

maybe like 2 green food recipes

before patch, i'd already have at least 1

i know they changed the colors, but i thought that's all they 'updated' was the color, not the actual drop chance behind it

anyone else having problems finding PURPLE motifs?

AlexDougherty

No, but I don't actually go looking for them, but I found two yesterday, I had both on alts, but learned them anyway. My Altmer Sorceror can now craft Bosmer Jerkins, and my Khajiit Templar can now Argonian Armour.

rotatorkuf

AlexDougherty wrote: »

No, but I don't actually go looking for them, but I found two yesterday, I had both on alts, but learned them anyway. My Altmer Sorceror can now craft Bosmer Jerkins, and my Khajiit Templar can now Argonian Armour.

idk what you're going on about but i hope you read what i'm talking about

PURPLE motifs

not 1-9

Mujuro

It would seem the rarer purple and Imperial motifs have become a bit rarer since v1.2.3/4. While ZOS specified they did not change the actual drop RATE of motifs, I believe there may have been a de facto change that resulted from a number of new items (e.g., the new "junk" touted as a feature of v1.2.3/4) now spawning in those same containers.

Maverick827

Mujuro wrote: »

It would seem the rarer purple and Imperial motifs have become a bit rarer since v1.2.3/4. While ZOS specified they did not change the actual drop RATE of motifs, I believe there may have been a de facto change that resulted from a number of new items (e.g., the new "junk" touted as a feature of v1.2.3/4) now spawning in those same containers.

This is precisely what happened. I asked @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ if the new junk items in containers share drop slots with motifs and recipes; she said she'd look into it and get back to me the next day. That was over a week ago and she's been ignoring the question and tags regarding the topic ever since, so the only logical conclusion is that the answer was "yes" and confirming it would look worse than ignoring us (which is already par for the course with Zenimax).

Regardless, real-world results from players prove that drop rates were significantly nerfed. I opened 2,500 containers yesterday and only got one blue recipe, which would have been statistically unlikely before the patch.

Zenimax just wants to keep supporting the gold sellers, I guess. Purple motifs go for $150 and motifs go for $25, and they don't see a problem with that.

rotatorkuf

le sigh

this game and it's devs are reminding me too much of TOR and it's devs

no, that's not a good thing

Pele

Mujuro wrote: »

It would seem the rarer purple and Imperial motifs have become a bit rarer since v1.2.3/4. While ZOS specified they did not change the actual drop RATE of motifs, I believe there may have been a de facto change that resulted from a number of new items (e.g., the new "junk" touted as a feature of v1.2.3/4) now spawning in those same containers.

This.

Weberda

Purple recipes I have yet to find but the motifs are dropping like crazy for my V1 and V6's. I found another 2 primals over the weekend and got a daedric in the chest behind the queen in Skywatch last night.

Alephen

Maverick827 wrote: »

Zenimax just wants to keep supporting the gold sellers, I guess. Purple motifs go for $150 and motifs go for $25, and they don't see a problem with that.

who would pay that much when they could buy enough gold to buy a purple motif in game for 1/20th the cost? unless the first was supposed to be purple vr5 saltrice recipe, but even daedric motifs are about $4 worth of gold the last gold spam i got.

Maverick827

Alephen wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Zenimax just wants to keep supporting the gold sellers, I guess. Purple motifs go for $150 and motifs go for $25, and they don't see a problem with that.

who would pay that much when they could buy enough gold to buy a purple motif in game for 1/20th the cost? unless the first was supposed to be purple vr5 saltrice recipe, but even daedric motifs are about $4 worth of gold the last gold spam i got.

The motifs are pretty far off, but purple recipes are going for 1mil+ in game. That's not quite $150, but it's still a ridiculous amount.

Artemiisia

with regular questing and opening everything I have gotten 9 motifs in 2 days

im just giving mine to guildies

Maverick827

Artemiisia wrote: »

with regular questing and opening everything I have gotten 9 motifs in 2 days

im just giving mine to guildies

I've gotten similar results with heavy farming, so I guess you're just really lucky.

rotatorkuf

or he's talking about non purple motifs

Artemiisia

im talking about rares, the blue once, as the title says Rares

purple = epic

Tarukmockto

Most folks are still referring to Motifs 10 thru 14 as Rare Motifs, because of their scarcity, not the new tool tip definition.

SDZald

Could be just the RNG but I have dozens of the standard racial Motifs but in the last month I have not found a single Imperial.

Artemiisia

well then its time to adapt and adjust to the new world Taruk

rotatorkuf

i realize the lack of specifity in my OP,

the purple ones seem greatly reduced in drop chance

purple-magicb16_ESO

Only real way to find any motifs now is to farm them by relogging. I used to find the odd one when they buffed drops but now I never come across them. So if you want them you know what you have to do.

Vuron

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Only real way to find any motifs now is to farm them by relogging. I used to find the odd one when they buffed drops but now I never come across them. So if you want them you know what you have to do.

This just comes off as a complaint. This might not apply to you, but this "relogging" [snip] seems to come from the people that just have bad luck and haven't found many.

I farm constantly and have found about 40 Daedric and Ancient Elf motifs, but I have never done it by relogging. Doing a little research and testing will allow you to farm the correct areas without having to relog.

To answer the OP... the drop rate does seem to have dropped slightly. I think that it actually dropped in the patch before all the junk weapons and armor were added, so I'd bet that there were 2 "nerfs".

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Maverick827

Vuron wrote: »

purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »

Only real way to find any motifs now is to farm them by relogging. I used to find the odd one when they buffed drops but now I never come across them. So if you want them you know what you have to do.

This just comes off as a complaint. This might not apply to you, but this "relogging" [snip] seems to come from the people that just have bad luck and haven't found many.

I farm constantly and have found about 40 Daedric and Ancient Elf motifs, but I have never done it by relogging. Doing a little research and testing will allow you to farm the correct areas without having to relog.

To answer the OP... the drop rate does seem to have dropped slightly. I think that it actually dropped in the patch before all the junk weapons and armor were added, so I'd bet that there were 2 "nerfs".

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Why wouldn't you relog farm? There's no circuit such that travel time is shorter than relog time.

SirAndy

Maverick827 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you relog farm?

Because it's boring?

I got 3 crafting toons and each one of them already knows all motifs.
Whenever i find one now, i just drop it into the guild bank for someone else to use.

Tarukmockto

@SirAndy: It must be sweet to have your luck with the RNG! If only I could be that lucky. I've only found one purple Motif (Primal) so far.

It would be outstanding to be in a guild where people give away surplus purple Motifs too! Got any openings? lol

eventide03b14a_ESO

rotatorkuf wrote: »

i've been searching an area for 2 hours without a single PURPLE motif drop

maybe like 2 green food recipes

before patch, i'd already have at least 1

i know they changed the colors, but i thought that's all they 'updated' was the color, not the actual drop chance behind it

anyone else having problems finding PURPLE motifs?

I have only looted a purple motif once before the patch so I'd say you were lucky to get them as often as you have. They are supposed to be rare as far as I was aware.

SirAndy

Tarukmockto wrote: »

It would be outstanding to be in a guild where people give away surplus purple Motifs too! Got any openings? lol

@Tarukmockto
There currently aren't any in the guild bank, only blue ones, sorry.

But, if you're looking for a more laid back guild with a healthy crafting community, check out the first entry in my signature "The Sidekick Order".

We're always looking for more members ...

Maverick827

SirAndy wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you relog farm?

Because it's boring?

I got 3 crafting toons and each one of them already knows all motifs.
Whenever i find one now, i just drop it into the guild bank for someone else to use.

How is it any more boring than farming without relogging?

SirAndy

Maverick827 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you relog farm?

Because it's boring?
I got 3 crafting toons and each one of them already knows all motifs.
Whenever i find one now, i just drop it into the guild bank for someone else to use.

How is it any more boring than farming without relogging?

It isn't. I don't farm for motifs, i find them while playing ...

Maverick827

SirAndy wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you relog farm?

Because it's boring?
I got 3 crafting toons and each one of them already knows all motifs.
Whenever i find one now, i just drop it into the guild bank for someone else to use.

How is it any more boring than farming without relogging?

It isn't. I don't farm for motifs, i find them while playing ...

I'm going to call [snip] on finding 40 Daedric motifs just "while playing."'

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SirAndy

Maverick827 wrote: »

I'm going to call [snip] on finding 40 Daedric motifs just "while playing."
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@Maverick827
I'm going to call [snip] on quoting me saying that i found 40 Daedric motifs.

That wasn't me ...
;-)

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Tarukmockto

Vuron wrote: »

<snip>I farm constantly and have found about 40 Daedric and Ancient Elf motifs, but I have never done it by relogging. Doing a little research and testing will allow you to farm the correct areas without having to relog.<snip>

For the record it was actually Vuron who said 40, and actually said "about 40 Daedric and Ancient Elf motifs", so maybe as many as 80 depending on how you interpret that statement.

rotatorkuf

nonsense, all of this

i keep farming for hours upon end, i'm lucky if i find a PURPLE motif