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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

New Kill 20 Daily

Forztr
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Before you had to kill 20 enemy players, now it' kill 20 of a certain class. So essentially they've turned it into a kill 80 on average. As a healer it might as well be titled a weekly instead of daily unless i quit healing and just use siege instead.

Are the rewards boosted? It'll take me a few days to find out myself.

How about a daily for repairing stuff, healing people , rezzing people, PVP isn't just about killing.

/end rant

Also can you do the kill Sorcs then pick up kill Templars etc. on the same day?
  • Kewljag_66_ESO
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    From what I understand it is suppose to be an additional kill quest to go along with the kill 20 players quest. I didnt get a chance to go to cyrodiil lastnight so i dont know.
  • Tintinabula
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    AND its bugged. My DK kill quest stopped at 8 and wont update anymore..event though Ive dropped it and retaken it several times.

    So I've killed 100s of players..and not completed one quest.
  • driosketch
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    From what I understand it is suppose to be an additional kill quest to go along with the kill 20 players quest. I didnt get a chance to go to cyrodiil lastnight so i dont know.
    Is it on a different board or on the bounty board?
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    Forztr wrote: »
    Before you had to kill 20 enemy players, now it' kill 20 of a certain class. So essentially they've turned it into a kill 80 on average. As a healer it might as well be titled a weekly instead of daily unless i quit healing and just use siege instead.

    Are the rewards boosted? It'll take me a few days to find out myself.

    How about a daily for repairing stuff, healing people , rezzing people, PVP isn't just about killing.

    /end rant

    Also can you do the kill Sorcs then pick up kill Templars etc. on the same day?

    you can keep turning it in and picking it up. I'm not sure what the daily limit is.
    I have not seen the old 'kill 20' quest yet anywhere after I turned my last one in.
    You do not need to land a killing blow or even do damage to a player to get credit, as long as you're grouped or assisting someone that is.

    The reward from what I can remember is the same as what it was for the kill 20 quest but I was tired and might be off a bit.
  • driosketch
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    Forztr wrote: »
    Before you had to kill 20 enemy players, now it' kill 20 of a certain class. So essentially they've turned it into a kill 80 on average. As a healer it might as well be titled a weekly instead of daily unless i quit healing and just use siege instead.

    Are the rewards boosted? It'll take me a few days to find out myself.

    How about a daily for repairing stuff, healing people , rezzing people, PVP isn't just about killing.

    /end rant

    Also can you do the kill Sorcs then pick up kill Templars etc. on the same day?

    you can keep turning it in and picking it up. I'm not sure what the daily limit is.
    I have not seen the old 'kill 20' quest yet anywhere after I turned my last one in.
    You do not need to land a killing blow or even do damage to a player to get credit, as long as you're grouped or assisting someone that is.

    The reward from what I can remember is the same as what it was for the kill 20 quest but I was tired and might be off a bit.
    So you can pick up a bounty quest more than once a day?
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  • Tintinabula
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    i cant even play the game at 2.3 fps I don't know what they did but they need to undo it.
  • SoulScream
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    I could only get kill 20 sorcs and it is slow. I thought it would be the normal kill players plus a new quest to kill classes. I thought it would be a cool update to have a second kill quest but it's not so far. :(
  • Tintinabula
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    I hate it..and usually my bfs kills update mine cause we are grouped...nope..that don't happen anymore either.
  • Halrloprillalar
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    I hate it..and usually my bfs kills update mine cause we are grouped...nope..that don't happen anymore either.

    that is strange... perhaps you aren't near enough, or you have to actually get in combat? I'll try to test this later today...

    I have definitely had 3 different class kill quests in 1 evening... good luck killing DKs though D:


    driosketch wrote: »
    From what I understand it is suppose to be an additional kill quest to go along with the kill 20 players quest. I didnt get a chance to go to cyrodiil lastnight so i dont know.
    Is it on a different board or on the bounty board?

    It's the bounty board.
  • Mercurio
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    hmm, as a healer I am constantly getting kill credit for teammates, even when I never entered combat or cast a heal.
  • Rylana
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    So basically this will be the next emperor ap farm exploit used since it has no CD
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  • Forztr
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    Mercurio wrote: »
    hmm, as a healer I am constantly getting kill credit for teammates, even when I never entered combat or cast a heal.

    I rarely join groups in pvp maybe I should join the lfg spam crowd to get dailies done. Usually find random groups more hassle than they're worth especially with the group lag bug. I prefer to look at the map and go where I think I'm needed.
  • Tintinabula
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    I'm really confused as to why they make the daily a repeatable again but make it class specific. Does ZOS really think those same groups who exploited the quest before will be dumfounded and unable to say: "bring us 20 DKS..we will bring 20 sorcs..make sure to get that quest and we will get the respective one."

    Again for those people who are playing by the book it's been made more difficult..and the doors have been reopened for ppl to abuse the system.
    Edited by Tintinabula on 26 June 2014 03:16
  • Worstluck
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    Yep. Strange change if you ask me. It's probably not working right, but I just never know anymore with ZOS. They tend to make the most inane changes to their game.
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    I'm really confused as to why they make the daily a repeatable again but make it class specific. Does ZOS really think those same groups who exploited the quest before will be dumfounded and unable to say: "bring us 20 DKS..we will bring 20 sorcs..make sure to get that quest and we will get the respective one."

    Again for those people who are playing by the book it's been made more difficult..and the doors have been reopened for ppl to abuse the system.

    Don't quite understand how these repeatable quests are an exploit. The result is simply extra vet points and AP for killing many players, and it is a fun sort of mini-game to try to kill more DKs or nightblades, etc.

    Having gone through the process with two different characters of leveling up to vet rank solely through pvp, I think it would be good if the vet points reward for killing players was boosted significantly across the board.

    People who are playing for the PVP shouldn't need to leave Cyrodiil and go back to PVE in order to level up to vet 12.
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on 26 June 2014 03:31
  • Tintinabula
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    there was a time where guilds were____________________________________..rinse and repeat.

    The quest was turned into a daily to prevent that.The daily thing seems to have been lifted.


    edit: didnt want to explain how to do it.
    Edited by Tintinabula on 26 June 2014 03:44
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    there was a time where guilds were simply agreeing to meet each other from different factions to trade kills..rinse and repeat.

    The quest was turned into a daily to prevent that.The daily thing seems to have been lifted.

    Ah, yes I have observed players allowing themselves to be killed to trade AP, and as you mention this could be a way to exploit these quests.
  • timidobserver
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    I love the new kill quests. Hopefully they leave it the way it is.
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  • Mortuum
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    I hate it..and usually my bfs kills update mine cause we are grouped...nope..that don't happen anymore either.

    No more free kills for AFK players?? OMG how horrible. Learn to PVP, my quests works great, did kill 20 DK then 20 NB and 20 sorcs so...

  • Tintinabula
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    Mortuum wrote: »
    I hate it..and usually my bfs kills update mine cause we are grouped...nope..that don't happen anymore either.

    No more free kills for AFK players?? OMG how horrible. Learn to PVP, my quests works great, did kill 20 DK then 20 NB and 20 sorcs so...

    where did that come from?..Noone said a thing about being afk. I pvp fine thanx. I usually kill 16 before I die. That's my average kill streak. ;)

  • bruceb14_ESO5
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    I see what I was thinking mentioned. I'm a Templar, want to trade kills? j/k

    Don't like the new quest at all. Haven't liked similar ones in other games either, pain in the moon. Grind mentality or find an easy workaround to be efficient, dueling guild.
  • Umeil
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    I think the problem now with the quest is the framerate that has dropped so bad that you cannot actually do the quest (woot at running at 2.8 to 3.1 frames)
  • cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO
    Then the most difficult would be kill 20 templars. Its already as rare as it is to spot one much less kill 20 of em
  • Halrloprillalar
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    Then the most difficult would be kill 20 templars. Its already as rare as it is to spot one much less kill 20 of em

    imagine if it were 20 werewolves
  • ThyIronFist
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    Agreed with the OP.

    But before I can kill 20 templars, Imma have to get rid of my 5 fps that I get in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by ThyIronFist on 26 June 2014 08:12
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  • zazamalek
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    Forztr wrote: »
    As a healer it might as well be titled a weekly instead of daily unless i quit healing and just use siege instead.

    So from personal experience (when running towards fights) I have found that you don't even need to participate in a fight to get kill quest credit: you just need to be near it. Grab a quest, join a group and go zerg hunting - you will be done in a few minutes.
    Forztr wrote: »
    repairing stuff

    Not a bad idea, so long as it is a DAILY (otherwise, cue exploitation).
    Forztr wrote: »
    healing people, rezzing people

    Brilliant idea. Having a "damage dealt" and "damage taken" daily would also be nice.

    Possibly have the "rezzing people" quest reward a small amount of soul gems.
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  • denmj_ESO
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    What we need is a kill X number every day. And a weekly kill X+40. The quests need to be based on people not on class. Besides the issues of some of these classes not being out in force, you have no way of knowing what class a person is making it hard to hunt what you need.

    Now another Kill Y quest could be daily that is based on who is in the lead. In other words the faction in the lead will not get the daily Kill Y quest but the other two factions would. But this would a separate quest from the ones above.
  • galiumb16_ESO
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    The patch notes say:
    New Daily Quests have been added for killing enemy classes. These can be found at the bounty boards.

    It doesn't say replacing, it says added. So either ZOS once again completely face palmed their patch notes with an undocumented nerf, or its bugged.

    Hard to say which given the ZOS track record, could easily be both.

    Can we just keep the old one alive by sharing it?
    Edited by galiumb16_ESO on 26 June 2014 13:25
  • SoulScream
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    I like the idea for a rez quest and soul gems reward!
  • Gilvoth
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    From what I understand it is suppose to be an additional kill quest to go along with the kill 20 players quest. I didnt get a chance to go to cyrodiil lastnight so i dont know.


    i hope your right cause that would be kool :)
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