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(ZOS IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED) What's wrong with this picture?

leewells
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(On Wabbajack)

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EDIT: And have a look at this one too....

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If your GM's are too busy to discipline these players and reset the grief they've caused, then kindly shut down PVP until it can be dealt with, thanks.
Edited by leewells on 25 June 2014 07:02
  • JeffKnight
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    AD was doing it to DC all night on Auriel's Bow NA. So we snuck out, took Nikel and then captured a scroll!
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  • PocketNova
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    Just to clarify. This is Wabba, NA.
    PC NA
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  • Tintinabula
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    yup..this is the EP wabbajack starting area..
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    Im calling for bans for these folks.
    Edited by Tintinabula on 25 June 2014 05:57
  • leewells
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    ZOS PLEASE SHUT DOWN PVP NOW.

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  • Gaettusk
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    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Spamming]
    Edited by ZOS_LenaicR on 9 July 2014 15:58
  • SienneYviete
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    ^lol
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Aaaah I guess so me strategy on how to hack works then. I hadn't actually ran into then for fear I had to RUUUUUN massive distances.
    Indeed it is so...
  • Mousmoula
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    Sorry, noob here. Could you please explain what's this all about? Cause I don't understand. Thank you.
  • leewells
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    Mousmoula wrote: »
    Sorry, noob here. Could you please explain what's this all about? Cause I don't understand. Thank you.

    First of all, the first screenshot shows enemy players where enemy players should never be in the first place (without exploiting). You see the "home base" area of each side (behind the walls where the wayshrines are) is -- umm was -- a safe area.

    The second picture you see is another impossibility without exploiting. A player takes the Scroll of Chim from the northern morrowind Chim Temple without ever opening the gate. Not only did this player take it, but he had a friendly army to escort him all the way back to their home keeps.

    TL;DR: Exploiting players can just walk where they please, take what they want, and ZOS does nothing.
    Edited by leewells on 25 June 2014 07:37
  • Mousmoula
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    Aaaah. Got it now. Thanks for answer leewells.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    BTW the way to hack into N morrowind gate as a EP char is SUPER EASY and once you figure it out you can go intercept them without problems.
    Indeed it is so...
  • leewells
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    Please what are they gonna do ban ALL of DC LoL. Ya Right. they cant afford to. EP And AD have been exploiting and hacking from the start. from using the travel to player exploit to get extra peopl in PvP after the factions were locked. Nichole the Big bad EP emp got banned for hacking. Now Ep realizes that you arent that good and start crying. Dont get mad cause its not you using an exploit to drag your friends up over our gates to get our scrolls. Because its not you getting the upper hand you are going to cry about it?

    No, they ban all of DC, AD, and EP that use exploits. They could even start with 3 day bans and increment the bans to 7 then a week and then permanent. Any ban shows that ZOS is serious about exploits and won't tolerate it, which will result in more players reporting these exploits and not using them to reap the rewards of AP. I may be asking a lot, but think about that: What is AP worth when you have a perma-ban?
    Edited by leewells on 25 June 2014 08:11
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    leewells wrote: »
    rewards of AP. I may be asking a lot, but think about that: What is AP worth when you have a perma-ban?

    Everything when the current campaigns end in like 2 days.
    Indeed it is so...
  • nukeemstudiosub17_ESO
    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.
  • nez
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    awww i really cant wait for a new capmaigns, some neat Dc asses to kick here
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  • nukeemstudiosub17_ESO
    leewells wrote: »
    ZOS PLEASE SHUT DOWN PVP NOW.

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    LMAO WOW Really?
  • leewells
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    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.

    Did you follow the images? Did you see where they were and do you understand that if an enemy tries to enter the safe-area by using the terrain they are instantly teleported back to their own home base? Now think about that for a moment in the first image where DC was in the EP safe-area, and then visualize what happened with the scroll ;)
    Edited by leewells on 25 June 2014 08:34
  • nukeemstudiosub17_ESO
    nez wrote: »
    awww i really cant wait for a new capmaigns, some neat Dc asses to kick here

    Lol GL w that!
  • Rylana
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    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.

    All I got from this wall of text is that DC can only win by cheating. Thats exactly what you just said.
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    leewells wrote: »

    Did you follow the images? Did you see where they were and do you understand that if an enemy tries to enter the safe-area by using the terrain they are instantly teleported back to their own home base? Now think about that for a moment in the first image where DC was in the EP safe-area, and then visualize what happened with the scroll ;)

    BTW that can be done without any hacking. If you just run close to the starter area and start jumping sometimes it will trigger the port back. I was wondering if this works with scrolls myself and I guess it does.


    To figure out where these places may be... roll a rival character, jump around the scroll area, and find a place that will port you out.
    Indeed it is so...
  • Gaettusk
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    You guys do know that this nukestudios guy is that Odus Lok scroll exploiter from in-game, right? He's obsessed with spreading rumors that Nico and fixate got banned lol.
  • leewells
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    leewells wrote: »

    Did you follow the images? Did you see where they were and do you understand that if an enemy tries to enter the safe-area by using the terrain they are instantly teleported back to their own home base? Now think about that for a moment in the first image where DC was in the EP safe-area, and then visualize what happened with the scroll ;)

    BTW that can be done without any hacking. If you just run close to the starter area and start jumping sometimes it will trigger the port back. I was wondering if this works with scrolls myself and I guess it does.


    To figure out where these places may be... roll a rival character, jump around the scroll area, and find a place that will port you out.

    Yes, it ports them back to their starting area, no harm, no foul. But the only way you can get where these guys were in that first image, is if you use wall exploits and wall hacks to bypass the terrain to get BEHIND the map and come in from behind the starting area where the friend/foe check is not made.
  • Rylana
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    Gaettusk wrote: »
    You guys do know that this nukestudios guy is that Odus Lok scroll exploiter from in-game, right? He's obsessed with spreading rumors that Nico and fixate got banned lol.

    Dont really care who he is, he needs to learn what a linebreak is.
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    leewells wrote: »
    Yes, it ports them back to their starting area, no harm, no foul. But the only way you can get where these guys were in that first image, is if you use wall exploits and wall hacks to bypass the terrain to get BEHIND the map and come in from behind the starting area where the friend/foe check is not made.


    Yes I know lol... I have a thread on how to do this.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113910/how-to-hack-cyrodiil


    But what I am saying is that... lets say you get the gates down normally (take scroll keeps). Instead of running it back across the map you can just use the starter zone exploit to teleport it back into your area.
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 25 June 2014 08:42
    Indeed it is so...
  • leewells
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    leewells wrote: »
    Yes, it ports them back to their starting area, no harm, no foul. But the only way you can get where these guys were in that first image, is if you use wall exploits and wall hacks to bypass the terrain to get BEHIND the map and come in from behind the starting area where the friend/foe check is not made.


    Yes I know lol... I have a thread on how to do this.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113910/how-to-hack-cyrodiil


    But what I am saying is that... lets say you get the gates down normally (take scroll keeps). Instead of running it back across the map you can just use the starter zone exploit to teleport it back into your area.

    Sounds like they have something else to fix then but completely unrelated to this, IE running around outside the walkable map to get behind a safe area, spawn a the hostile camp in it, rally an army, and then have everyone run out and take the scroll.

    And yes, that is an exploit. Not unless you think putting the tent behind an otherwise inaccessible area is just some awesome rewards the devs easter-egged into the game for those whom are so uber that they can do it. Oh wait, if they were that uber, they shouldn't need said tent....
  • nukeemstudiosub17_ESO
    Rylana wrote: »
    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.

    All I got from this wall of text is that DC can only win by cheating. Thats exactly what you just said.
    Where did i say DC was Cheating??? I said no such thing! I have called out EP And AD for the exploits they do. Its quite obvious that neither Ep Or AD can win without cheating. We arent the ones who stacked the server with more people than were allowed. we didnt have a hacking cheating emp. We had one guy find out you could jump over rock and you call that cheating?? I plainly said " Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win." Where did i say DC cheated??? Or has to cheat? Better get your facts straight before you speak, cause you just came off sounding like a moron! Also Like I said "stop crying cause you are getting beat.
  • leewells
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    Rylana wrote: »
    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.

    All I got from this wall of text is that DC can only win by cheating. Thats exactly what you just said.
    Where did i say DC was Cheating??? I said no such thing! I have called out EP And AD for the exploits they do. Its quite obvious that neither Ep Or AD can win without cheating. We arent the ones who stacked the server with more people than were allowed. we didnt have a hacking cheating emp. We had one guy find out you could jump over rock and you call that cheating?? I plainly said " Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win." Where did i say DC cheated??? Or has to cheat? Better get your facts straight before you speak, cause you just came off sounding like a moron! Also Like I said "stop crying cause you are getting beat.

    LOLOL. Jumped over the rock and landed right in the EP safe area eh? Totally legit. Those emp buffs be straight dank yo.
    Edited by leewells on 25 June 2014 08:47
  • Rylana
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    Rylana wrote: »
    First off it wasnt an exploit if someone got into the gate by just jumping over a rock. they setup a fc (within the rules of game). how is it exploit?? No one hacked or had a friend pull them up like EP And AD do all the time. and have done since beta!! And just laughed at people when they were called out about it. Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win. Examples, Stream sniping to find where we are, buying accounts from people who sold them unlawfully to sit on dc side and spy, using the travel to player exploit to get a vast advantage in numbers, botting. They have done everything to try to get an advantage from dc. Just look at who was on top in ep till they got banned for hacking!!!! Really stop crying cause someone got the upper hand on you! Crying cause you are gettin beat. And like i said wasnt exploit as explained by an earlier point it was ZOS's incompetence while creating the game. not a hack or cheat. So stop cryin and suck it up cause DC is gonna start rollin over EP and AD in the next campaign. The funny thing is you think someone cheated to do this. it was explained in a previous post. They cant ban people cause they screwed up and made it possible to jump over rocks lol.

    All I got from this wall of text is that DC can only win by cheating. Thats exactly what you just said.
    Where did i say DC was Cheating??? I said no such thing! I have called out EP And AD for the exploits they do. Its quite obvious that neither Ep Or AD can win without cheating. We arent the ones who stacked the server with more people than were allowed. we didnt have a hacking cheating emp. We had one guy find out you could jump over rock and you call that cheating?? I plainly said " Ep And Ad know they arent as good as DC and need to exploit And cheat to win." Where did i say DC cheated??? Or has to cheat? Better get your facts straight before you speak, cause you just came off sounding like a moron! Also Like I said "stop crying cause you are getting beat.

    If DC is so legendary pro at pvp, why did it take this incident for you to claim epic winz?

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  • Rylana
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    I am going to summarize DC in four short lines.

    1. DC loses a Keep - It was the numbers
    2. DC loses a scroll - It was the numbers
    3. DC loses a battle - it was the numbers
    4. DC exploits to farm/gank people loading into an intended safe start zone - It was legit skillz yo

    Sound about right?
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