Predictions for most Populated Campaigns after reset?

Limitless

We all know Wabbajack is going to be live, but what other campaigns will have enough population to PVP properly in?
I was a long time member of Bloodthorn, and the DC Population skyrocketed, while EP's slowly dwindled. AD was almost never in there unless they were to farm or just gank for fun.
I know that Auriel's Bow was like the Wabba before Wabba, but everyone left that campaign after a month.

What are your opinions? Should we discuss what campaigns we should all go to in order to ensure population for great battles?

It kind of sucks that 6 campaigns are just left dead in the water but we don't have enough people to fill those.

galiumb16_ESO

I assumed that the new set of campaigns proposed and posted on the forums would start after this 90 day campaign ended. Is this not the case?

Limitless

galiumb16_ESO wrote: »

I assumed that the new set of campaigns proposed and posted on the forums would start after this 90 day campaign ended. Is this not the case?

Those new campaigns are set to come out in update 1.3
Update 1.2 is -just- coming out, so the new campaigns will not be out for at least another month if this is their pace on content.

My assumption is for the time being, these campaigns will just reset like they were originally designed to.

Sile

I'm hoping they'll close some of the lesser populated campaigns. I have high hopes for Wabbajack, and I hope it stays this way.

Permafrost

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113313/balancing-a-non-wabba-campaign#latest

Limitless

Sile wrote: »

I'm hoping they'll close some of the lesser populated campaigns. I have high hopes for Wabbajack, and I hope it stays this way.

Wabba is a pretty nice campaign. I'm guesting in it myself and primarily play on it.

Permafrost wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/113313/balancing-a-non-wabba-campaign#latest

Nice thread, great minds think alike.

I'm really aiming to learn what campaigns people already assume will be populated, or will it just remain like this?

galiumb16_ESO

Seems pretty stupid to start all those campaigns again when you have plans to do something else in the near future. Another 90 days with all but one empty or unbalanced campaign will kill the game, imo.

Players have shown themselves to be too stupid (looking at you AB and BT) to collapse for better fighting, so it is up to ZOS to address it. At the very least I would expect them to greatly reduce the number of 90 day campaigns going into the next round and perhaps make them 30 days if they are not ready to release the new types of campaigns soonish.

Otherwise you end up with massive QQ about loss of progress, etc.

Lobselvith

I have a feeling we will be getting the Campaign changes right after this Campaign ends. at least i hope.

SwampRaider

let's all move to a random new server and populate it. If anyone's interested, The current population of Chrysamere(NA) has 1-5 AD active 7-14 DC and 10-20 EP. that is really low pop and could use an extra hundred on each side.

Halrloprillalar

Lobselvith wrote: »

I have a feeling we will be getting the Campaign changes right after this Campaign ends. at least i hope.

I sincerely hope you're right.

However, judging by their list of 'fixes' for pvp this patch my hope is quickly dwindling. It will just be another round of "home here, guest here" nonsense with maybe wabba and one more decent-ish campaign and the rest ghost towns of scroll buffs. I'm just curious what that secondary campaign might be... tentatively looking at you, BT.

Imperator_Clydus

Lobselvith wrote: »

I have a feeling we will be getting the Campaign changes right after this Campaign ends. at least i hope.

You will be disappointed then. Brian Wheeler, ESO PvP Lead, already said that the campaign changes won't be here until Update 3. That won't be for another 4-6 weeks at least.

He also stated they cannot close any of the current campaigns as players would lose their end of campaign rewards. Suffice it to say, campaigns won't be changing for another month or more.

PikkonMG

Campaigns only have like 2 days left so I really hope they close at least 2 or 3 of them so we don't end up with 1 good campaign and 6 or 7 empty ones.

Cody

wabba is likely to stay as it is. the others idk, as iv only played wabba, skull crusher, and hopesfire:/ if casuale(however her dang name is spelled. lol) and her group continue to stay in hopesfire, im sure it will remain dead. don't know about the others though.

stolioli

NookyZooky wrote: »

wabba is likely to stay as it is. the others idk, as iv only played wabba, skull crusher, and hopesfire:/ if casuale(however her dang name is spelled. lol) and her group continue to stay in hopesfire, im sure it will remain dead. don't know about the others though.

Just to clarify I'm pretty sure Casuale's guild spends more time guesting in Wabba than being in hopesfire. I see them in Wabba farming every night. They just have to pop into hopesfires a few hours a week to keep it on lockdown.

Going to assume Wabba and Bloodthorn are going to remain with the best populations. I do hope another server or two gets a bit more populated and balanced for the additional month or so we have of these 90 day campaigns

Anazasi

I think they could easily remove 4 of them making pops a little better on all the remaining.

stolioli

Anazasi wrote: »

I think they could easily remove 4 of them making pops a little better on all the remaining.

They've said they can't remove them during the downtime Thursday or else people wouldn't get their end of campaign rewards and that they want to not rush it to ensure the transition is smooth. They've said the reduction in campaigns will occur when 1.3 comes out, meaning end of July at the earliest.

Halrloprillalar

stolioli wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think they could easily remove 4 of them making pops a little better on all the remaining.

They've said they can't remove them during the downtime Thursday or else people wouldn't get their end of campaign rewards and that they want to not rush it to ensure the transition is smooth. They've said the reduction in campaigns will occur when 1.3 comes out, meaning end of July at the earliest.

They can remove them after the current campaigns reset and no one will shed a tear.

Tintinabula

They cant bring the 2 day waiting period to xfer fast enough.

madangrypally

stolioli wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think they could easily remove 4 of them making pops a little better on all the remaining.

They've said they can't remove them during the downtime Thursday or else people wouldn't get their end of campaign rewards and that they want to not rush it to ensure the transition is smooth. They've said the reduction in campaigns will occur when 1.3 comes out, meaning end of July at the earliest.

They cant remove them during the downtime on Thursday but why not remove them on Friday then. Just do a server wide announcement when players log in that some campaigns will be shutting down. Problem solved.

This is the stupid excess. The main reason why ESO does not want to shut down some campaigns is because it will lead to reports that ESO is already shutting down servers due to loosing to many players. Thus it will be bad publicity. Once a game has to start shutting down servers then it gets a dark taint and I dont think ZoS wants that even though it may end up killing the game further.

Campaign Shutdown = Good for PvP
Campaign Shutdown = Bad for ZoS Image.

Cody

stolioli wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

wabba is likely to stay as it is. the others idk, as iv only played wabba, skull crusher, and hopesfire:/ if casuale(however her dang name is spelled. lol) and her group continue to stay in hopesfire, im sure it will remain dead. don't know about the others though.

Just to clarify I'm pretty sure Casuale's guild spends more time guesting in Wabba than being in hopesfire. I see them in Wabba farming every night. They just have to pop into hopesfires a few hours a week to keep it on lockdown.

Going to assume Wabba and Bloodthorn are going to remain with the best populations. I do hope another server or two gets a bit more populated and balanced for the additional month or so we have of these 90 day campaigns

agreed. kinda sucks only 2 0r 3 of these servers are actually populated:/ and I never saw casuals group In wabba, but if her group is there, it would not surprise me. hopefully I can kill her a few times in the future:)

Halrloprillalar

NookyZooky wrote: »

stolioli wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

wabba is likely to stay as it is. the others idk, as iv only played wabba, skull crusher, and hopesfire:/ if casuale(however her dang name is spelled. lol) and her group continue to stay in hopesfire, im sure it will remain dead. don't know about the others though.

Just to clarify I'm pretty sure Casuale's guild spends more time guesting in Wabba than being in hopesfire. I see them in Wabba farming every night. They just have to pop into hopesfires a few hours a week to keep it on lockdown.

Going to assume Wabba and Bloodthorn are going to remain with the best populations. I do hope another server or two gets a bit more populated and balanced for the additional month or so we have of these 90 day campaigns

agreed. kinda sucks only 2 0r 3 of these servers are actually populated:/ and I never saw casuals group In wabba, but if her group is there, it would not surprise me. hopefully I can kill her a few times in the future:)

Isn't that Alacrity? They're AD, how can you kill her lol

ESeregon

You can look at Bleakers when it is held by AD. When no one visits there, come to Dragonclaw or Kingscrest for some lovely three sided fun.

madangrypally

I predict nothing will change.

Wabba will still be the only real PvP campaign with fights nearly 24 hours a day.

Bloodthorn will be controlled by DC

AB will be controlled by AD

EP will likely pick a new campaign.

A few weeks later Wabba will slowly begin to loose its population to either Bloodthorn, AB, or the new EP campaign. A month later and Wabba will be nearly dead like all the others but the one popular one.

nukeyoo

I predict the OP will someday stop limiting himself to center alignment to coincide with his lack of limitations.

Wabbajack will endure... The idea of creating a balanced med/high population campaign is nice but good luck creating a semblance of population balance without game set perimeters to keep them in check.

I hope you guys find what you're looking for! I'm sure the resilient folks on Wabba will continue to weather the ever fluctuating pop storm.


ps If you do find it, don't mention it on the forums if you want it to last..

Zintair

Impossible, it will be blabbed in a second because people are dumb as can be.

galiumb16_ESO

Imperator_Clydus wrote: »

He also stated they cannot close any of the current campaigns as players would lose their end of campaign rewards. Suffice it to say, campaigns won't be changing for another month or more.

This conversation is about when campaigns end in a day or so, thus they will have already received the rewards. Thanks for coming out.