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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Exaggerated Numbers - An Inquiry

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Rylana
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You know how it goes.

"ZOMGZ I GOT GANKED BY A GROUP OF SEVENTEEN".... was really two
"THEY HAVE 40 GUYS UP IN THERE DROPPING OIL"... was really five or six multipotting
"WE TOOK DOWN 20 GUYS WITH JUST THE FOUR OF US AW YEAH"... was really just five guys killed and was actually with a group of 24.


As a nightblade I am almost always the first on scene, usually scouting ahead, vampire sneak, full speed horse, etc. Zone chat lies. Lies bad too. Why do people always double or triple actual figures?

"DC HAS 40 COMING FOR ROE, OMG OMG OMG DEFEND ROE"... its really just like 10 guys total and half of them level 20.

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Explain pl0x
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Some people are bad at estimation. Also math. Elementary math.
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 19 June 2014 06:22
    Indeed it is so...
  • Avidus
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    Its not just in zone chat, the forums are riddled with it.
    Ive even had Guild leaders telling us that we outnumber them 2-1 when they have actually got another guild guesting into help them, when we are on our own.

    Its the go-to excuse for getting beaten.
  • Rylana
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    What actually set me off on this was a claim in another thread of "100+" people somewhere.

    Man 100 people dont even pvp in this game anymore (yeah i know, exaggeration) but in all seriousness, I have not seen a 100 man zerg in this game since January beta.

    Im just glad I was here for that, when we had REAL population. A claim of 50, 100, even 120 was a serious claim.
    Edited by Rylana on 19 June 2014 06:29
    @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
    Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes... and what is worse some people think there is more then 500+players per faction now at population cap...
    Indeed it is so...
  • kijima
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    It does go the other way too.

    5 guys outside the keep, so when you go out to kill them it turns into 12 as the other 7 of them are invis stealthing.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • NekOnOkO
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Man 100 people dont even pvp in this game anymore (yeah i know, exaggeration) but in all seriousness, I have not seen a 100 man zerg in this game since January beta.
    Maybe its time to leave your dead campaign? One side being almost spawn-camped while having "locked" population = more than 100 man zerg in one place. Pity its unlayable though.
    Edited by NekOnOkO on 19 June 2014 06:54
  • Avidus
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    Fear not guys, the new campaign system will come it, all the cool people will play on the longest lasting campaigns, and all the scrubs can move to their Wabba-celarus hybrid child.
  • nukeyoo
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    There's a certain amount of intelligence required for making good counts or estimates... An amount usually lacked by majority of folk.
    - done w/ it
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Rylana wrote: »
    What actually set me off on this was a claim in another thread of "100+" people somewhere.

    Man 100 people dont even pvp in this game anymore (yeah i know, exaggeration) but in all seriousness, I have not seen a 100 man zerg in this game since January beta.

    Im just glad I was here for that, when we had REAL population. A claim of 50, 100, even 120 was a serious claim.

    I don't think I've seen a group of less than 10 in days. Usually 50+. What campaign are you in? Sounds like I should jump in there. I'm looking for some smallscale stuff. I just can't find it in Wabba any more.
  • DeLindsay
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    Because, Humans.
  • Brandoid
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    Exaggerate this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SOdjOS6ji8
    Brandoid - Templar - Ebonheart Pack
  • Alephen
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    pvp math, i think it is base 6.

    8 is 12, 12 is 20, 20 is 32, etc.
    Edited by Alephen on 19 June 2014 10:08
  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    I dunno but I've never been killed by less than like 20 guys.
  • frwinters_ESO
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    same as when men lie about size.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    It always takes 7-800 people and a roaming world boss to kill me.

    For realsies.
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  • Lowbei
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    my 6 can take up to around 40, but after that the ae cap is simply impossible to overcome
    Edited by Lowbei on 19 June 2014 16:01
  • LariahHunding
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    I can take out Over 9000 enemies and hit with the forces of 10,000 suns
    "Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."

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  • Leaok
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    Lying about the numbers doesn't help your side at all.

    Calling false numbers in zone might pull people off an important objective to try and intercept those numbers.

    On the other hand counting accurate numbers while dead and relaying that information can help your faction determine where the bulk of the enemy currently are on the map and help determine the next target.
    Leaok - Ganked Again
  • Zintair
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    Rylana wrote: »
    What actually set me off on this was a claim in another thread of "100+" people somewhere.

    Man 100 people dont even pvp in this game anymore (yeah i know, exaggeration) but in all seriousness, I have not seen a 100 man zerg in this game since January beta.

    Im just glad I was here for that, when we had REAL population. A claim of 50, 100, even 120 was a serious claim.

    You mean like the claim that a group of 12 AD wiped 140???

    Yea lot of that going around. We had a person on our zone chat not too long ago where we used to joke to divide his number by 3 to get the actual number of people.
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    Zintair aka Primetime - VR14 - Guild Leader and PvP Dept Leader
    www.Legend-Gaming.net
  • Arora
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    In Dawnbreaker we had a party of 25 to raid fargnaut, 4 guys wiped us out all of us :( Well one of them was the emperor but still.
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  • Lowbei
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    Arora wrote: »
    In Dawnbreaker we had a party of 25 to raid fargnaut, 4 guys wiped us out all of us :( Well one of them was the emperor but still.

    good for them! you were zerging and they deserved the win
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