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i need help with molag bol

Cody
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I am a NB archer, I have beat molag bol with another NB archer, but I totally forgot how I did, and I am not having any luck the 2nd time around. how is a ranged DPS supposed to do this?????? he cant be snared, he cant be knocked back, his attacks seem to hit me from across the map half the time, how the heck is a ranged DPS supposed to do this??? tbh, its only this bad because molag bol shoots these blue fire orbs at you, and unlike the titan orbs, which can be reflected, these, half the time, STILL damage me, the only way I can dodge them, is to roll, and that costs a lot of stamina, meaning I can only roll so much b4 I run out of stamina, and I still need to use venom arrow and scorched earth to do some good dmg or he will outlast me. I refuse to switch to a dang staff, and even if I were willing, my resto staff skill, is at 1, meaning, it is not good enough for this fight because I never used it. any advice? I know I will eventually get it, so im going to keep on trying(I actually had him down to his last 20%, but his dang fire orbs got me:() any advice would be very helpful, so the 3rd time around, I don't have this trouble
Edited by Cody on 17 June 2014 01:31
  • Sihnfahl
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    Well, since you're a stam build, not a magicka one, what you could do is stock up on spell prot pots. Sure, you're going to take a hit in spell power, but that's not going to be big for a stam build.
  • Cody
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    I figured it out. strife allowed me to regain my health almost every time he hit me. guess I found something to replace scorched earth!
  • Nickers
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    BLOCK is your friend.
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  • Cody
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    cant block his fireballs.:( though his mace attacks can be reduced to pathetic amounts of damage.
  • kaosodin
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    Wooot gratz friend
  • Nidwin
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    It took me 5 hours to kill him on my Templar. I kept dying to him over and over again. I also had tons of lag and that didn't help, and had to restart the game once and do it all over again. But at the end, got him down.

    If I had to do it now, he would die in one go of course.
    Nidwinqq Templar (healzzz) United Warhammer Vets
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  • RatsnevE
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    n/t
    Edited by RatsnevE on 23 June 2014 00:10
  • RatsnevE
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    n/t
    Edited by RatsnevE on 23 June 2014 00:09
  • Nidwin
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    Sure.

    I stayed at ranged of him and kept running/straffing around. I mainly used Heavy attacks and light attacks from my resto staff to kill him. I always kept enough magicka up in case I needed a fast heal (Breath Of life)

    The most difficult part for me was killing all those ugly big dragons/birds and not dying to Molag Bal when he spawn them once. After that it was just being patient and get his health down step by step.

    I also regularly sprinted to put enough distance between him and me and in the 2nd part of the fight and constantly jumping away from those ugly red circles.
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  • IceDread
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    Nidwin wrote: »
    It took me 5 hours to kill him on my Templar. I kept dying to him over and over again. I also had tons of lag and that didn't help, and had to restart the game once and do it all over again. But at the end, got him down.

    If I had to do it now, he would die in one go of course.

    Even by only using heavy/ light attack, block/dodge, and a healing spell you should be able to beat him.
    Edited by IceDread on 17 June 2014 10:20
  • RatsnevE
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    n/t
    Edited by RatsnevE on 23 June 2014 00:09
  • DeLindsay
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    RatsnevE wrote: »
    Nickers wrote: »
    BLOCK is your friend.
    How do you block with a bow?

    Hold RMB, you can block with any weapon in the game, even Daggers, it just won't reduce the incoming damage by as much as what a Shield does. And yes, you CAN block all ranged attacks too, it will reduce the incoming damage, spells, arrows, it doesn't matter. People misunderstand block in ESO. You are not stopping the incoming damage but instead reducing how much it hits for, this is the same for Shield as it is a Staff or Bow or Sword, etc.

    And to the OP, you beat me to it I was going to say just add Strife/Swallow soul and you're golden as I beat him with the same build you did.
  • Svann
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    I just bought a healing staff and kited him with it. Strife and fast weapon attacks, roll, occasional heal. Took about 10 minutes. Even though he cant be snared he stops quite a bit to cast.
  • IceDread
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    RatsnevE wrote: »
    IceDread wrote: »
    Even by only using heavy/ light attack, block/dodge, and a healing spell you should be able to beat him.
    I just love reading these lines. :smiley: Makes me want to stay up all night and die so many times trying. I'm glad there are so many of you trying to help us poor fighters. It's bound to wear off on us sooner or later.

    Well, I beat him the first time I faced him and that's what I did. Cast the occasional offensive spell and silver bolts in between but silver bolts was useless so stopped doing that to save stamina for dodge / block.

    You learn early on in this game that you ether try to blast something down fast and hard before you run out of mana, and if you notice that does not work, you focus on the slower survivable path, and that was what I did. I'm not really sure if your sarcastic or not but, you'll get the hang of it I bet.
  • RatsnevE
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    n/t
    Edited by RatsnevE on 23 June 2014 00:08
  • Cody
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    RatsnevE wrote: »
    Nickers wrote: »
    BLOCK is your friend.
    How do you block with a bow?

    Hold RMB, you can block with any weapon in the game, even Daggers, it just won't reduce the incoming damage by as much as what a Shield does. And yes, you CAN block all ranged attacks too, it will reduce the incoming damage, spells, arrows, it doesn't matter. People misunderstand block in ESO. You are not stopping the incoming damage but instead reducing how much it hits for, this is the same for Shield as it is a Staff or Bow or Sword, etc.

    And to the OP, you beat me to it I was going to say just add Strife/Swallow soul and you're golden as I beat him with the same build you did.
    his ranged fireballs still do a lot of damage, even if I were to block them, and my spell resis was over charged , but I got him. I just used strife, and stayed close to him so he would not shoot those god-forsaken fireballs.
  • kijima
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    Took me 30 mins with my NB and that was basically running, roll and dodging with huge amounts of light attacks, and heavy attacks when he pauses after doing the big jump thing. Since you've said you already defeated him with your NB I'd wager that's how you did it. I did him at VR2 as I spent a lot of my time in Cyrodiil as VR1 and not grinding earlier on as was the craze. (I'm grinding in craglorn now though as I want Vr12 gear)

    It's an Endurance fight, if it was too easy the forums would be full of people saying the 'end game' (if that's end game for you) is too easy.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • Cody
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    i need to play some PvP again. been putting it off for almost a month now
  • JonzzLonewolf
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    Siphoning Attacks rocks, and either morph works too. And block whenever he summons the dragons as you can reflect the fireballs from the dragons and it'll be reflected back to them. Roughly 3 reflected fireball is enough to kill a dragon. Or maybe they got nerfed...hmm...
  • Monfab
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    I think the dragons got nerfed, I was killing them off yesterday with two fireballs each. Also, as a templar I just kept circling him and using light attacks with my two hander and blocking his attacks. When he was at 20% health I went all out unleashed by Nova special, and spammed the sh*t out of shining spear. He went down like a sack of spuds whilst barely denting me.
    Edited by Monfab on 19 June 2014 01:32
  • RatsnevE
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    n/t
    Edited by RatsnevE on 23 June 2014 00:07
  • SienneYviete
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    I actually had less of an issue using my bow NB than my Vamp DK with this guy magnum shot to give you some distance when required, venom arrow for the stamina ranged dot, swallow soul (pretty much a no brainer there), soul trap magicka ranged dot and lastly siphoning attacks.
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  • Seroczynski
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    I just ran around using light attack on him, and focus the adds once they spawn. Managed to kill him on my level 45 sorcerer this way.

    Don't expect to kill him fast, it's a long battle. Just pop a potion when you have to, and block the ranged attacks from the adds. Kill them before going back on Molag Bal.
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  • Vuron
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    Here is my post from another thread...

    This fight is a complete joke and letdown as a Nightblade. The Amulet of Kings completely breaks the fight and many people consider the Titans to be the hardest part.

    Here's how to beat it as a NB.

    1) Get a ranged weapon. It doesn't really matter if you haven't leveled 1 because it can be level 1.

    2) Stay at max range and cast your healing siphon. Re-cast whenever it ends. This is what breaks the fight. The heal is a % of the damage done and because the amulet increases your damage exponentially, you will be fully healed every 2 seconds. If he can't kill you in a 2 second span, then he can't kill you.

    3) Spam basic attacks from your ranged weapon. You can use other higher damage ranged skills if you have them, but they are not needed.

    4) Whenever you see him about to launch into the air, turn and run directly away to get out of range. Start attacking again as soon as he lands.

    Rinse and repeat. It's possible to not even take damage during the fight. You are far enough away that you should just be able to walk around his ground attack.

    For the titans... The fighters guild skills work wonders. AoE works wonders. Because of the amulet, they should all die in 2 hits. Silver bolts just mows these down.

    Update... many people suggested just blocking the titans, as the block will damage and kill them.
  • Xnemesis
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    I delieve you can block the titans and they get their damg reflected back at them. I was an archer but I slotted entropy and soul swallow for the heals and used viel of blades as my ult and he went down pretty easy. Just make sure you roll out when he goes to stomp on you. I also suggest maybe getting some pots and a food buff. Hope this helps and congrats on reaching vet content!
  • Yingzi
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    It took me a few times, but I figured out if I stayed on the move constantly I could avoid him doing hardly any damage or throwing fireballs because he would always want to teleport. I strafed in a circular pattern and hit him with Crippling Grasp 3 every time he fell into my reticle. When he paused and wasn't on the move I would hit him with Acid Spray 4 or Lethal Arrow 4. If you do it correctly, he rarely hits you with a fireball. I did have to contend with two spawns of his minions but those were easy enough, just block their fireballs and they bounce back and hit them, then use Acid Spray in-between and they go down quickly.
    Edited by Yingzi on 8 April 2015 23:41
  • Yingzi
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    (edited above)
    Edited by Yingzi on 8 April 2015 23:41
  • Suru
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    Young one, in the beginning of this game, molag bal was so much harder, i believe in you<3


    Suru
  • Earthwardzilvox_ESO
    If your strategy is to not get hit, you're not going far in this game. Most elites (not even bosses) are completely immune to CC. My recommendation is to respec. Ranged dps does not give you license to be squishy in this game.
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  • Lord_Kreegan
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    As @Yingzi said above, constantly move. Circle strafe.

    Works with almost every boss in the game, as long as you have room. Use your "A" and "D" keys; almost never use your "W" and "S" keys; maintain your orientation to the target with your mouse. Circle strafe and use a combination of light and heavy attacks. You don't even have to bother with other skills (if you've got the patience) and certainly don't want to use any skill that anchors your location to one spot for any length of time. Since you can use light and heavy attacks on the move, they're a good choice.

    I've done Molag Bol four times without a death ("Yay, me" -- no exclamation point because it's sarcasm) with a Templar, NB (with bow), Sorceror, and DK. It's the most boring boss fight ever in the history of MMORPGs. "Sting like a butterfly; float like a bee..." or something like that... I've used basically the same strategy each time... and I'm old with arthritic hands, so I know you can do it.

    The AI for mobs -- especially boss mobs -- in this game can be rather pathetic. The AI appears to pick a vector to engage your character, telegraphs the action, and then fires the animation. You have more than adequate time to move out of the way if you're paying attention... except for those mobs that "cheat" (providing fake "challenge"; example: you instantly die in a flash of light even though the mob is facing away from you at the time). There are a couple of those.

    FWIW, blocking and dodging are overrated because they suck up your stamina so quickly. Use them only when you absolutely need to (like when your finger slipped off a key and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, or you placed your hand incorrectly on your keys and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time; or your hand cramps from constantly pressing the "A" and "D" keys and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time... etc.). Save your stamina for running when you absoluely have to.
    Edited by Lord_Kreegan on 9 April 2015 00:08
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