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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

AD and DC.. STOP WORKING TOGETHER!

Dispari
Dispari
Soul Shriven
Playing in the Wabba server.. Anyone else. most likely in EP, getting sick of this?

They'll take keeps and everything together..
The PVP system is completely unbalanced and they need to figure out how to stop this alliance, it's a great annoyance.
  • eNumbra
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    EP dominated on Wabba for a while and still IIRC takes back much of the map during the day with little resistance.

    Its the ebb and flow of war.
    Deal with it.
    Edited by eNumbra on 8 June 2014 11:48
  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Lol EP doesn't dominate wabba and get easy caps, or else we would have an emperor all the time "during the day", but that doesn't happen.

    Its been an AD/DC alliance domination with Emp swapping on wabba for a while now.

    This is in the wrong forum btw..
    Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on 8 June 2014 12:57
  • yelloweyedemon
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    Whaat? People actually think and use tactics? I though moder day MMO was all about mindless zerging!

    "If it's red it's dead"

    Seriously what's this thread about? Telling people how to play?
  • Snit
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    Wabba is my home campaign, and I've spent enough time there to get to rank 11. I'm not an expert, but I'm not completely unfamiliar with it either. I play AD.

    And what are you talking about? I spend more time killing blues than reds. Just yesterday, I was in a group that spent the entire day on the west side of the map, taking blue keeps and trying for one of their scrolls. I've never seen any conscious cooperation.

    It may happen. I'm not in everyone's mumble. But if it is, it's hardly a server-wide conspiracy. I think you're missing the fact that some new guilds are spending time on Wabba now, and that has changed the balance of power. Most campaigns are dead. Wabba is the place to be :)
    Edited by Snit on 8 June 2014 15:50
    Snit AD Sorc
    Ratbag AD Warden Tank
    Goblins AD Stamblade

  • Lynx7386
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    This is part of the reason there's 3 way pvp, if you ever played DAOC they had a similar system (the devs who run ESO also created that game).

    Alliances happen when they're needed.
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Shaun98ca2
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    Only an Altmer can truly ever rule Cyrodiil. FOR THE QUEEN!!!

    Nords are brainless brutes and will NEVER claim a ruler for Cyrodiil.

    AD Wabbajack forever lol.
  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Some people thought using mustard gas and nuclear weapons or similar weapons were cool tactics way back when too. Some things simply lack integrity and honor.
  • ErilAq
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    comparing an alliance of convenience and weapons of mass destruction is just silly. Think of it more along the lines of the US supplying Bin Laden with weapons to combat the Soviets. It's a temporary alliance that will end up in flames but at the time it does what it needs to do
    Edited by ErilAq on 8 June 2014 18:27
    Internet armchair warriors attack! Yayayayayayaaaaaah!!!!
  • yelloweyedemon
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    Shaun98ca2 wrote: »
    Only an Altmer can truly ever rule Cyrodiil. FOR THE QUEEN!!!

    Nords are brainless brutes and will NEVER claim a ruler for Cyrodiil.

    AD Wabbajack forever lol.

    Ha, we all know how the war ends... They all gonna be our slaves muhahaaha
  • captain_awesome
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    This is actually fairly common behaviour, 2 alliances helping each other.

    What I don't agree with is the Emperor title farming - that is a pure exploit and all that did it should be banned.
    Dominion FTW.
  • dr_zed
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    In Auriel's at some point AD and EP were working together against DC and it was clear as ***. Did you hear us (DC) bitching about it?
    Edited by dr_zed on 8 June 2014 22:57
  • MasterSpatula
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    PVE Forum. Did you actually seek out the least appropriate spot for your post?
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • Cody
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    the only "alliance" I did not like, was one the AD and DC made in hopesfire, 2 months ago. They kept at it for weeks, and it was impossible for EP to do anything.(it was also funny because AD ended up having everything and DC had nothing from it. lol) I have played wabba some, and I never noticed any alliance honestly. If they did have one, it was not very good:/. lol. It is annoying, and sometimes unfair, but it is war, and the EP has done the same things many time's. I used to play skull crusher and we had an alliance with DC there a lot. Just fight at your best, and try not to get 3 shotted by VR12s:) Maybe I will see it soon, I plan to go back to PvP to refresh for the new campaigns.
    Edited by Cody on 9 June 2014 01:17
  • smercgames_ESO
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    I think most of the "alliance team up" thing is just in your head. I fight in Wabba, just like everyone else since it's the only active campaign and I go from one side to the other fighting. For some reason I do enjoy killing Reds more because they just seem easier. Blue seems more organized with smaller groups but tons of healing and they work together. That is just my experience though, I'm sure others have a completely different experience.

    I would probably blame the Dark Elves though.
  • wllstrt75b14_ESO
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    Wow I play on EP and I am a little befuddled why someone would cry at a perception the other two alliances are working together. If they are working together, and thats a big IF then that is a testament to EP's abilities and should be honored.

    I am still just in awe at the notion someone is complaining about this lol, It is war get over it quit crying and fight on.
  • frwinters_ESO
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    Um....we did this to AD in the very beginning. AD was top early on and DC and EP just pushed against them for weeks. EP has been in power for awhile now, were top on the leaderboard, and the campaigns are coming to an end, so taking out the top contender is normal.

    Less QQ and more Kill Kill.
  • Warhealer
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    I have noticed AD and DC teaming up on EP a lot recently but its not because they have some magical alliance, it's because EP is full of kids who don't work together on the battle field.
    There may be a guild or two and that's it, most of the time people are screaming for help to defend a keep while the idiots are off trying to cap an un-connected keep.
    Bottom line is AD and DC are doing what is natural, picking off the easy target before dealing with a real threat.
    Get some leadership and people willing to follow and EP will dominate even 2vs1.

    My honest opinion is the war should just be against DC and AD and the EP should be marauding the country side taking a keep or two just to wreck the supply chains and not have any permanent camps or keeps... We are mostly Barbarians after all.
  • methjester
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    Yeah, blame poor game design on the players.
  • Kahina
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    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
  • Stovahkiin
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    Kahina wrote: »
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    This. Nothing wrong with that.
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
  • Shaun98ca2
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    Shaun98ca2 wrote: »
    Only an Altmer can truly ever rule Cyrodiil. FOR THE QUEEN!!!

    Nords are brainless brutes and will NEVER claim a ruler for Cyrodiil.

    AD Wabbajack forever lol.

    Ha, we all know how the war ends... They all gonna be our slaves muhahaaha

    Apparently fate can be changed in Elder Scrolls. Kinda Happens all the time really lol.
  • Shaun98ca2
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    methjester wrote: »
    Yeah, blame poor game design on the players.

    POOR game design. No this is by far easily the BEST game design. To have your 1 faction topple 2 opposing factions is a true challenge with even greater rewards.

    They promised us epic battles of 100 versus 100. They delivered. Now if they can just get it lag free like it was back in beta.

    IF you think the PVP is nothing but a ZERGfest than make a 6 man group and assist the war by cutting off important transit lines and steal the elder scrolls. Fight off groups herding back to the zerg.

    Basically make an attempt to be useful or join the zerg. Me I have no online friends so all I get to do is join the zerg unless I can find a small group willing to do cooler stuff.
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    Wrong Form, And Player will do what they want in PVP.. Kind of the point of it.

    just be glad there is even one campain that still sees action from all alliences...
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • methjester
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    Shaun98ca2 wrote: »
    methjester wrote: »
    Yeah, blame poor game design on the players.

    POOR game design. No this is by far easily the BEST game design. To have your 1 faction topple 2 opposing factions is a true challenge with even greater rewards.

    They promised us epic battles of 100 versus 100. They delivered. Now if they can just get it lag free like it was back in beta.

    IF you think the PVP is nothing but a ZERGfest than make a 6 man group and assist the war by cutting off important transit lines and steal the elder scrolls. Fight off groups herding back to the zerg.

    Basically make an attempt to be useful or join the zerg. Me I have no online friends so all I get to do is join the zerg unless I can find a small group willing to do cooler stuff.

    It's a zergfest. Bigger zerg wins. Most emperors wins. Sorry pal, it's going to be zergy. You may be able to slow up a few guys here and there but rvr is always going to be about the bigger zerg.

    If there is a benefit to be gained in swapping keeps and scrolls (emperors) then you better believe people will exploit it. They're ungodly slow at patching exploits so I would get used to it.
  • Adrastes
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    more reasons not to pvp.
  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    What are ya smoking, OP? I play DC on Wabba and it's always been the EP and AD teaming up. The reason I quit playing in Cyrodil.
  • captain_awesome
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    It's poor game design. And the game is Tanking hard because of it.
    Edited by captain_awesome on 11 June 2014 06:50
    Dominion FTW.
  • Laura
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    SHHH.. the best way to get the AD off your back in Wabba is to go poke Auriels bow. They mostly home there and guest wabba (for the bonuses). A couple of pokes in AB and you will see the population cap out in moments. I'm serious - try it. Its a legit tactic.

    Its seriously like kicking an ant hill.
    Edited by Laura on 11 June 2014 06:48
  • Hearts
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    If you seriously think that 300 players per alliance are keeping a secret teamwork then you have some serious conspiracy going on.

    300 players per alliance (on locked), 600 in both AD and DC, and you think all of them are cooperating? Even if there was some alliance going on, it would be between 20 people, tops..
  • Infraction
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    These threads are entertaining I'll give them that.
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