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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Grant meaningful veteran XP for dying to players in Cy.

a_thielen_ESO
I know it sounds dumb at first. Let it mellow.

If a player dies, they have to run back, it's not really abusable. In addition, the devs, the players, everyone, wants this game to be a success, and this requires that players get something out of the endgame, and that players are drawn into this endgame.

The pain of running around gives the devs ample leeway to grant substantial meaningful XP when the lower VRs get wtfpwned by V10+ with shiny gear (which in a recent blog Z said would be getting even better stat-wise).

Players that put up with this BS long enough are eventually on an even playing field this way. Or at least can then focus on progression outside VRs.

My sub is running out in a few days. I'm VR1. I won't be grinding quests or doing the clusterfark in craglorn to try to get XP. I also am not going to PvP in since outside of primetime it's hard to find fights, and always lopsided, because I get nothing from it. Z needs to consider how many people are in the same position. People that came here for DAoC PvP, not for endless leveling.
  • maholi
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    It would be abusable. 2 guys fight their 2 buddies who are on the other faction. They kill / rez each other over and over. And do you really want people intentionally charging to their death?
  • lao
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    I know it sounds dumb at first. Let it mellow.

    If a player dies, they have to run back, it's not really abusable. In addition, the devs, the players, everyone, wants this game to be a success, and this requires that players get something out of the endgame, and that players are drawn into this endgame.

    The pain of running around gives the devs ample leeway to grant substantial meaningful XP when the lower VRs get wtfpwned by V10+ with shiny gear (which in a recent blog Z said would be getting even better stat-wise).

    Players that put up with this BS long enough are eventually on an even playing field this way. Or at least can then focus on progression outside VRs.

    My sub is running out in a few days. I'm VR1. I won't be grinding quests or doing the clusterfark in craglorn to try to get XP. I also am not going to PvP in since outside of primetime it's hard to find fights, and always lopsided, because I get nothing from it. Z needs to consider how many people are in the same position. People that came here for DAoC PvP, not for endless leveling.

    "Hello im a noob. it took me 2 months to get to vr1. everyone wipes the floor with me in pvp cos im awful. i dont wanna put any effort into getting better, be it by leveling in pve or grinding a couple hours in craglorn or even by pvping or by actually learning how to play the frikkin game. please ZOS make me good or i will quit."

    this is all i read from ur post. also, good bye :)
    Edited by lao on 7 June 2014 20:57
  • Cody
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    The PvP imbalance will be solved. the REAL problem, is vet zones. If you don't grind or exploit, you have to do quests in vet zones, and the difficulty in vet zones is not worth the rewards from them, and you feel like you are getting weaker, progression is absent. If vet zones were better, the game would be much better.
  • xDonMega
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    Vet ranks are ***.. Most of the v12 crowd would get there asses kicked if it wasn't for that advantage.

    Biggest CRUTCH in the game.
  • Halrloprillalar
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    PVP XP/VP is very lucrative now, I don't see a problem.

    Must be a PEBKAC
  • Wolfahm
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    I did vr10-12 in PvP solo/duo in no time... stop crying. :|
    MAKE KHAJIITS CRIT AGAIN!!!

    |Wolf Ahm the Unchained|
    - 4 Nightblades | 3 Stam/1 Mag -
    - 2 Templars | Stam/Healer -
    - 2 Sorc | Stam/Mag -
    - 2 Wardens | Stam/Mag -
    - 1 DK | Tank/Stam -
    || Aldmeri Dominion ||


  • Huckdabuck
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    xDonMega wrote: »
    Vet ranks are ***.. Most of the v12 crowd would get there asses kicked if it wasn't for that advantage.

    Biggest CRUTCH in the game.

    Getting your stuff pushed in as a lowbie isn't fun in PvP but it does teach you very quickly who/what/when/where/why/how to pick your battles. Honestly just form a gank squad of lowbies or join the zerg.

    SubVR12......Biggest EXCUSE in PvP!
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
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