DK VR3 vs 6 VR11 In Craglorn. MELEE + MAGIC BUILD IN ONE THREAD ZOMG

  • PBpsy
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    crislevin wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    NB (I cheated Im Vet5 in blue vet4 gear)

    Light Armour+Staff zzzzzzzzzzz

    Im not even trying, just hold block and spam 2 skills
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEisoxn-qfo&feature=youtu.be
    Works even better with shield and sword and you don't really need to go full light.


    There is nothing special about Craglorn trash mobs. Any class should be able to solo them. The real problem are bosses, dungeons and trials the fact that they were soloed Is not as much a problem of overpowered classes but more of a problem of totally lame boss mechanics.

    i still can't, somebody care to share a video showing sorc solo these mobs? 1healer+2archer+2melee mob, that is. Let me learn some tricks.

    i don't know much about Sorc but there are plenty of people soloing craglorn with sorcs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAqjl9xZOg
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  • crislevin
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    NB (I cheated Im Vet5 in blue vet4 gear)

    Light Armour+Staff zzzzzzzzzzz

    Im not even trying, just hold block and spam 2 skills
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEisoxn-qfo&feature=youtu.be
    Works even better with shield and sword and you don't really need to go full light.


    There is nothing special about Craglorn trash mobs. Any class should be able to solo them. The real problem are bosses, dungeons and trials the fact that they were soloed Is not as much a problem of overpowered classes but more of a problem of totally lame boss mechanics.

    i still can't, somebody care to share a video showing sorc solo these mobs? 1healer+2archer+2melee mob, that is. Let me learn some tricks.

    i don't know much about Sorc but there are plenty of people soloing craglorn with sorcs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAqjl9xZOg

    well, maybe its time to try critical surge+impulse+inner light again. I will give it a try later.

    btw, I always have trouble with archers, the video you linked has no archers in it. I wonder what kind of difference it would make in the fight?
  • infraction2008b16_ESO
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    So in the second vid you died a few times only clearing a mob or two at a time yet you are saying it's OP?
  • crislevin
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    crislevin wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    PBpsy wrote: »
    NB (I cheated Im Vet5 in blue vet4 gear)

    Light Armour+Staff zzzzzzzzzzz

    Im not even trying, just hold block and spam 2 skills
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEisoxn-qfo&feature=youtu.be
    Works even better with shield and sword and you don't really need to go full light.


    There is nothing special about Craglorn trash mobs. Any class should be able to solo them. The real problem are bosses, dungeons and trials the fact that they were soloed Is not as much a problem of overpowered classes but more of a problem of totally lame boss mechanics.

    i still can't, somebody care to share a video showing sorc solo these mobs? 1healer+2archer+2melee mob, that is. Let me learn some tricks.

    i don't know much about Sorc but there are plenty of people soloing craglorn with sorcs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAqjl9xZOg

    well, maybe its time to try critical surge+impulse+inner light again. I will give it a try later.

    btw, I always have trouble with archers, the video you linked has no archers in it. I wonder what kind of difference it would make in the fight?

    not working neither, I don't know how bad my play is, I am V6 in V10 zone and doing fine.

    ALl I can say is Craglorn is a big outside group dungeon, it shouldn't be easily soloed, if you can, its probably not intended and devs will slap hammer down.
  • yodased
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    Yes its still OP because that area is supposed to be 4 man only outside for VR 10+. It was set up for 4 people to clear it.

    I can solo it with light armor destro/resto then without spending 1 skill point I changed armor and weapon and then cleared the 6 mobs again. Yes I died, but I had no skill points in any melee skills what-so-ever.

    This coming from someone that is supposedly 7 levels below the recommended level of the area.

    This is by basic definition over-powered.
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    Worstluck wrote: »
    A Nightblade can most certainly do that, just not with a bow and some daggers. Don your dress and grab that stick, because that is what you will need. The combination of Siphoning Strikes, Sap Essence, Elemental Ring/Pulsar and Veil of Blades is very powerful. You are able to block using those AoE skills (while casting them) and Sap Essence builds an insane amount of ultimate. OP, you might try Engulfing Flames and Sea of Flames. Add in Magelight and Elemental Ring and you might have had an easier time.

    So many god damn people dont understand this .
  • OkieDokie
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    Worstluck wrote: »
    A Nightblade can most certainly do that, just not with a bow and some daggers. Don your dress and grab that stick, because that is what you will need. The combination of Siphoning Strikes, Sap Essence, Elemental Ring/Pulsar and Veil of Blades is very powerful. You are able to block using those AoE skills (while casting them) and Sap Essence builds an insane amount of ultimate. OP, you might try Engulfing Flames and Sea of Flames. Add in Magelight and Elemental Ring and you might have had an easier time.

    Just a comment. Sap essence is not building that much ultimate anymore since they nerfed critcs. It is still doable, but not even close it was before. I tested yesterday on a vr5 public dungeon and I died in situations I wouldn't before the patch.

    Cheers.

    People keep saying they heard of a friend of friend of friend of their neighbors that plays a NB and can catch up with dks and sorcs and this guy just never shows up. He would be a rock star if he existed.
  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Another attempt at more DK nerfs doing what any class could have done with a dress and a stick. More to come.

    Oh and I am glad you showed us the death that happens when you try it without a dress and a stick, even if you are a DK.
    Edited by demonlkojipub19_ESO on 7 June 2014 01:52
  • Wifeaggro13
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    OkieDokie wrote: »
    Worstluck wrote: »
    A Nightblade can most certainly do that, just not with a bow and some daggers. Don your dress and grab that stick, because that is what you will need. The combination of Siphoning Strikes, Sap Essence, Elemental Ring/Pulsar and Veil of Blades is very powerful. You are able to block using those AoE skills (while casting them) and Sap Essence builds an insane amount of ultimate. OP, you might try Engulfing Flames and Sea of Flames. Add in Magelight and Elemental Ring and you might have had an easier time.

    Just a comment. Sap essence is not building that much ultimate anymore since they nerfed critcs. It is still doable, but not even close it was before. I tested yesterday on a vr5 public dungeon and I died in situations I wouldn't before the patch.

    Cheers.

    The point he is trying to make is light armor and staves have created im balances.Dk was supposed to have high utility high survive ability.these light armor builds created a dynamic of im balance. It is severly noticable in dk. The problem is once you hit heavy armor the class disolves with out survive ability and utility. There are two DD abilities in dk and one aoe. The high powere dk build.dks wont make past july the round of nerfs coming up will make the other twwo armor options un playable. Currently they are not group end game viable , come july they will be unplayable. Many people get there jollies trying to get them nerfed. I truly dont give a rats ass anymore two other good mmos ready to drop. ESO is showing their in expierence by throwing the baby out with the bath water. Not acknowledging melee and stam builds was highly shorysighted. Pretty sure this will be tue big exodus for the population that enjoys them
  • Worstluck
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    I've tried Sap Essence on the test server, it still builds a lot of ultimate, granted it is slightly less. It's building ultimate from the healing as well, and heal ult generation is over the top right now. Also, I know the nerf to siphoning strikes is lame, but I was still able to do what I do with it being only 3%. It's annoying, but not terrible. Still don't understand the change though.

    Sorry to get off topic OP :D
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  • ipkonfigcub18_ESO
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    A Staff fighting mobs. Thanks, that's all Nightblades needed to see.
  • patrykplawskib16_ESO
    Remember, its not the class that needs a nerf but light armor and stupid sticks that glow.
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