Fixing Stamina/Magicka
Just a few ideas to improve the balance between stamina and magicka, stamina being a very poor relative currently.
*Stop sprint from draining stamina and instead have a sprint bar, just like with a horse, that doesn't reduce your stamina resource. Passives can still make you sprint faster, and items can still reduce how fast the bar goes down but you no longer invest in it. Maybe it increases a little as you level.
*Improve stamina abilities to be comparable with magicka abilities.
*Add weapon skill line ultimates so there are a lot more stamina based ultimates to choose from.
*Change CC breaking significantly. Keep block, and dodge and some cc breaks using stamina as the resource but change others to use magicka instead. Some cc breaks would be more about mental willpower than physical strength, make those ones use magicka to break them (fear, silence even stun could all break using magicka). Try and ensure there is an even amount of ccs in the game that break off each resource. Seek balance.
Some might say having magicka break some ccs makes it more useful, but it would be balanced if stamina skills were made comparable to magicka ones. Others might not want to take a magicka hit to break cc, welcome to the world of a player trying to play a stamina build currently. Its so unbalanced its not even funny.
That currently stamina skills are worse, and stamina also carries the drain of being used for block, dodge and all cc seems like a massive oversight and is gimping stamina builds.
I think this would shake things up a bit and certainly make for more hard choices and a genuine variety in builds. At the moment you are a caster or you are underpowered it seems.
Edited by rob_aspinneb18_ESO on 6 June 2014 09:46 *Stop sprint from draining stamina and instead have a sprint bar, just like with a horse, that doesn't reduce your stamina resource. Passives can still make you sprint faster, and items can still reduce how fast the bar goes down but you no longer invest in it. Maybe it increases a little as you level.
*Improve stamina abilities to be comparable with magicka abilities.
*Add weapon skill line ultimates so there are a lot more stamina based ultimates to choose from.
*Change CC breaking significantly. Keep block, and dodge and some cc breaks using stamina as the resource but change others to use magicka instead. Some cc breaks would be more about mental willpower than physical strength, make those ones use magicka to break them (fear, silence even stun could all break using magicka). Try and ensure there is an even amount of ccs in the game that break off each resource. Seek balance.
Some might say having magicka break some ccs makes it more useful, but it would be balanced if stamina skills were made comparable to magicka ones. Others might not want to take a magicka hit to break cc, welcome to the world of a player trying to play a stamina build currently. Its so unbalanced its not even funny.
That currently stamina skills are worse, and stamina also carries the drain of being used for block, dodge and all cc seems like a massive oversight and is gimping stamina builds.
I think this would shake things up a bit and certainly make for more hard choices and a genuine variety in builds. At the moment you are a caster or you are underpowered it seems.
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Hilgara✭✭✭✭✭One easy fix doable now would be to make dodge free like light and heavy attacks. You should never have to choose between taking a hit or doing damage. Blocking I can understand because it does damage but always having to keep a decent percentage of your stamina in reserve in case you need to dodge is seriously gimping stamina builds.0
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Iceman_mat wrote: »I think you need to learn about block counters (hold block then attack)
-cheers
I know about them, and interrupts/bashing. The block still uses stamina though just like anything else uses a resource. What's your point?
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One easy fix doable now would be to make dodge free like light and heavy attacks. You should never have to choose between taking a hit or doing damage. Blocking I can understand because it does damage but always having to keep a decent percentage of your stamina in reserve in case you need to dodge is seriously gimping stamina builds.
That would defo improve things, maybe they could have dodge and sprint on the same bar, similar to the horse's stamina that just appears when you use it.
TBH i'd prefer to see them go further. Its like they tabbed stamina on as a bit of an after thought having spent all their time making magicka great.
Vamp vs Werewolf kind of bares this out. Werewolf being the stamina choice of the two and being totally underwhelming and largely broken where as vamps needed to be nerfed.Edited by rob_aspinneb18_ESO on 6 June 2014 11:470 -
stungateb14_ESO✭✭✭how about just adding another bar, say endurance, removing stamina from sprint but still using endurance to cap the abuse of endless sprinting make it level with character levels.Edited by stungateb14_ESO on 6 June 2014 13:300 -
stungateb14_ESO wrote: »how about just adding another bar, say endurance, removing stamina from sprint but still using endurance to cap the abuse of endless sprinting make it level with character levels.
How about, no?0 -
stungateb14_ESO✭✭✭
ah must be another op magicka user but thanks for your insightful response...not!stungateb14_ESO wrote: »how about just adding another bar, say endurance, removing stamina from sprint but still using endurance to cap the abuse of endless sprinting make it level with character levels.
How about, no?
forgot to add.
how about linking magicka for light armor builds for dodge and sprint because if you watch those eploiting. craglorn solo mages their stamina never moves that gives them a distinct advantage over stamina based builds and is definitly an oversight by the delevelopersEdited by stungateb14_ESO on 6 June 2014 14:190 -
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✭They should just have had 3 stats, power that would increase damage of attack or healing, health and endurance used to perform skills, dodges, blocks and sprint.
And one crit rating.
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SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a magica user I would be HAPPY if some anti-CC will be based on magica!
Why?
Because I have a tons of magica and very good regen of it, but my stamina pool and regen are very low and it goes to zero after some blocking or 1-2 stun breaks.
But, dear stamina users, do not whine after that, because you have very low magicka regen and pool ^^Edited by SilverWF on 6 June 2014 14:53- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Why would we? when we can use up our magicika to break some cc, leaving us more resources to use the skills we actually focused our build toward (assuming stamina skills are made comparable to magicka skills).
What ever happened to objectivity. The skills system is clearly fubared. "As a magicka user" why would you want everyone else to be one too?
How about "as a reasonable person capable of viewing something objectively and imaginig myself in the same position...". How would that sentence end?
I'm guesing "i'd become a magic user"Edited by rob_aspinneb18_ESO on 6 June 2014 15:020 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will not use window to get inside of house - I can see a door for it.
Seems like someone can't...- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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Crisscross✭✭✭@SilverWF Yeah stun breaks cost 50% of the bar... Your 'tons of magicka' won't really matter.0
