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The Elder Scrolls VI: Making it into the history books.

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METALPUNKS
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I'm wondering if what we did in eso will make it into the lore books in the next ES game. The stuff going on in eso is not well documented in the elder scrolls universe, that's why ZOS picked this era. So I'm hoping when we play the next TES game we will read about stuff we did and were a part of, that goes with saying the next game is set in the future. Anyway just though it would be cool to read about stuff we literally did. Just like stuff we read about in skyrim that we were a part of in cryodiil(Oblivion).
  • LordEcks
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    Yes. Somewhere in the future someone will notice a giant red spot along the road with a note next to it which reads:

    "Here lies a Templar,
    who attempted VR,
    but didnt get far."
  • Drasn
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    METALPUNKS wrote: »
    I'm wondering if what we did in eso will make it into the lore books in the next ES game. The stuff going on in eso is not well documented in the elder scrolls universe, that's why ZOS picked this era. So I'm hoping when we play the next TES game we will read about stuff we did and were a part of, that goes with saying the next game is set in the future. Anyway just though it would be cool to read about stuff we literally did. Just like stuff we read about in skyrim that we were a part of in cryodiil(Oblivion).

    It will be in a lore book titled, "Mistakes Were Made."
  • ErykGrimm
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    That would be kind of awesome to see in the next game.
  • stabbykitteh
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    They can go the Dragon Break route (ie none of this will be remembered).
  • badmojo
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    Even better would be some kind of event in that game to explain why the future games (Skyrim, Oblivion, etc) didn't have many accounts of the history from ESO. Like if a crazy king decides to burn all the books telling the history of this era.
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  • magickats242cub18_ESO
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    It was Sheogorath, he re-wrote history, along with Sanguine. Cheese and booze for everyone!
  • Noswell
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    On the journey of Tiber Septim's 1000 companions across the icy ocean, it was decided the weak should be sacrificed to the sea, and so the Nightblades and Templars cursed their fate as they were tossed overboard, and the 500 Dragonknights and Sorcerers Companions were born.
    Edited by Noswell on 6 June 2014 04:27
  • Rammanjeff
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    I highly doubt there will be another sequel to this game after they destroyed it with this one. So similar to the Diablo 3 catastrophe.
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  • Natjur
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    Skyrim, only one class, as the 'other' classes died off.
  • theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO
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    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
  • AngryNord
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    Noswell wrote: »
    On the journey of Tiber Septim's 1000 companions across the icy ocean, it was decided the weak should be sacrificed to the sea, and so the Nightblades and Templars cursed their fate as they were tossed overboard, and the 500 Dragonknights and Sorcerers Companions were born.

    That was Ysgramor, actually, not Tiber Septim
  • deacon13
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    Think its already in the History books . On things not to do .
  • ExiledKhallisi
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    LordEcks wrote: »
    Yes. Somewhere in the future someone will notice a giant red spot along the road with a note next to it which reads:

    "Here lies a Templar,
    who attempted VR,
    but didnt get far."

    My templar is vr8 light armour/heal staff pure caster...and I'm face rolling. Adapt, or fail.
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  • stabbykitteh
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    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
    The challenge would be explaining why none of it is mentioned in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim... A Break could help with that :)
  • Aureli
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    stabbykitteh wrote: »
    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
    The challenge would be explaining why none of it is mentioned in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim... A Break could help with that :)

    The only surviving historical texts of the era were lost in a cataclysm that buried a small city underground, only to be discovered again centuries later by the protagonist of TES IV.
  • Kronosphere
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    Rammanjeff wrote: »
    I highly doubt there will be another sequel to this game after they destroyed it with this one. So similar to the Diablo 3 catastrophe.

    ummm what? of course there is not going to be a sequel this is an online game? like there isnt World of Warcraft 2. "The Elder scrolls" series however, run by BETHESDA (nothing to do other than lorewise with ZENIMAX's ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE title) WILL have a sequel, after they make fallout 4 i beleive. this is an important distinction. "Zenimax Online" Does ESO, Bethesda game Studios does TES. Zenimax Media Inc is the parent company of both. why would they shut down a successful series because another series not even by the same group did (allegedly) poorly? companies dont throw away money


    i mean ask yourself. even if u hated eso but were a TES fan. would u then not by the next tes game? i love eso but even if i HATED it id get the next TES game. its like loving say, a certain kind of bike, then riding a crappy bike, then due to you having rode a crappy bike, u throw away your awesome bike lol.

    not that eso is a crappy bike =)
    Edited by Kronosphere on 6 June 2014 05:57
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  • Noswell
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    That was Ysgramor, actually, not Tiber Septim

    Thanks :) Sorry it's late.

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    Aureli wrote: »
    The only surviving historical texts of the era were lost in a cataclysm that buried a small city underground, only to be discovered again centuries later by the protagonist of TES IV.

    The protagonist of Oblivion never discovered any buried city
  • theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO
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    stabbykitteh wrote: »
    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
    The challenge would be explaining why none of it is mentioned in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim... A Break could help with that :)

    It's just so...... lazy though. The Warp in the West only worked because it validated the Players influence on the game world, adding all possible outcomes to established canon. Pulling a cosmic 'lol jk none of this happened' is kind of uninspired and something of a middle finger to engaged players.

    There shouldn't be a problem expanding upon the Lore of an already obscure period, and there are other explanations as to how so much of this information was lost over 800 years that aren't a cosmic retcon.
  • brandon
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    stabbykitteh wrote: »
    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
    The challenge would be explaining why none of it is mentioned in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim... A Break could help with that :)

    @stabbykitteh
    It wouldn't be that hard. I definitely think a dragon break could help but they're is another option.

    Have the protagonist of TES 6 discover ruins with texts from this time period. It wouldn't be a terrible choice because not much is known about this time period. This game takes place about 1000 years before Skyrim, even in real life we don't know everything that happened 1000 years ago.



  • Drasn
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    Kronosphere wrote: »
    Rammanjeff wrote: »
    I highly doubt there will be another sequel to this game after they destroyed it with this one. So similar to the Diablo 3 catastrophe.

    ummm what? of course there is not going to be a sequel this is an online game? like there isnt World of Warcraft 2.

    Everquest 2, Lineage 2, Asheron's Call 2, Guild Wars 2..... pretty sure those are all mmo sequels to mmos...and I know there are others.
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    thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »
    Kronosphere wrote: »
    Rammanjeff wrote: »
    I highly doubt there will be another sequel to this game after they destroyed it with this one. So similar to the Diablo 3 catastrophe.

    ummm what? of course there is not going to be a sequel this is an online game? like there isnt World of Warcraft 2.

    Everquest 2, Lineage 2, Asheron's Call 2, Guild Wars 2..... pretty sure those are all mmo sequels to mmos...and I know there are others.
    Plenty of MMO with a followup, however a followup on ESO will not be before 2020 earliest.

    Elder scroll 6 is made by a different studio and has its on budget.
    The main events from ESO, the daeric invasion and the civil war is known, things might be fleshed out a bit in TES 6, coldharbor, the three alliances and overall stuff like that.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • AgriyaTheGrey
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    badmojo wrote: »
    Even better would be some kind of event in that game to explain why the future games (Skyrim, Oblivion, etc) didn't have many accounts of the history from ESO. Like if a crazy king decides to burn all the books telling the history of this era.

    Agree but it wouldn't even have to be a crazy king -RL history is stuffed full of 'rational' regimes rewriting their history to favour this or that political view: Qin Shi Huang (the First Emperor 220-210 BCE) burning the books of China being the obvious, most famous example.

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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    METALPUNKS wrote: »
    So I'm hoping when we play the next TES game we will read about stuff we did and were a part of, that goes with saying the next game is set in the future.
    Even IF there's a TES6 .. that's entirely hypothetical ATM since Bethseda are working on something else that won't see the light of day for some time .. I think it highly unlikely the events of ESO would feature much, if at all.

    On the assumption that this hypothetical TES6 followed in the same vain as those that went before it would be set some time after Skyrim and thus even more in ESO's future than Skyrim: I don't see why the war being fought in Tamriel in ESO's time would feature to any extent hundreds and hundreds of years later when the three games in between (TS3-TES5) barely mentioned it, as you observed.

  • Meogi
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    Well, it would be a nice Easter Egg in a future TES VI game :) , just because we didn't find books about the 2nd Era war that is part of ESO doesn't mean they didn't exist. Overall, I would prefer just to chalk it up to that, and find books in TES VI about ESO events.

    Regardless of whether they pull a second dimension thing like certain other games, the most cool thing would be a TES VI at some point.

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  • ifnsman_ESO
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    It's incredibly easy to explain why very few (if any) of the Lore-books in TESO don't show up in Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim.

    Even down to badmojo's suggestion of some or most of these books being burned. Not to mention the fact that most of the other books in TESO are in Provinces (as well as parts of other provinces) yet to be explored in-detail in the single player games.

    In total agreement with *theroyalestpythonnub18*, the use of a Dragon-Break would be the laziest possible piece of uncreative writing to ever explain TESO's events. Especially if it completely nullifies the impact that the player would have.

    Besides, it's incredibly silly to assume that the kinds of usernames that some people would come up (or "VR") within an MMO would show up in future Lore-books, as it's obviously not what would show up in background story material.
  • LariahHunding
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    thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »
    METALPUNKS wrote: »
    I'm wondering if what we did in eso will make it into the lore books in the next ES game. The stuff going on in eso is not well documented in the elder scrolls universe, that's why ZOS picked this era. So I'm hoping when we play the next TES game we will read about stuff we did and were a part of, that goes with saying the next game is set in the future. Anyway just though it would be cool to read about stuff we literally did. Just like stuff we read about in skyrim that we were a part of in cryodiil(Oblivion).

    It will be in a lore book titled, "Mistakes Were Made."

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  • mketchen0525ub17_ESO
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    It will be 200 million pages long, filled with empty pages and heavier than the Titanic.
  • stabbykitteh
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    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    stabbykitteh wrote: »
    theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »
    If they pull a dragon break I will cry. Eso added some great stuff to the universe, and it would be a shame for it all never to be mentioned again in future games.
    The challenge would be explaining why none of it is mentioned in Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim... A Break could help with that :)

    It's just so...... lazy though. The Warp in the West only worked because it validated the Players influence on the game world, adding all possible outcomes to established canon. Pulling a cosmic 'lol jk none of this happened' is kind of uninspired and something of a middle finger to engaged players.
    Not really advocating either way, and don't disagree that it would be an easy way out. It is an easy way out that is already established in lore, however.

    They don't necessarily have to use a Break to erase ESO's history. It could be used to explain why there is no mention in the first 5 games, while making ESO's new history common knowledge in TES VI. That's all I'm saying :)

    Lots of other great suggestions here on how to manage that.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind if it remained its own alternate reality. Guess we'll have to wait about 5 years and see what happens...
  • Matt.vanelsenb16_ESO
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    stabbykitteh wrote: »
    They can go the Dragon Break route (ie none of this will be remembered).

    I always thought that dragon breaks made it so that multiple realities happened in the one reality that we take part in, breaking linear time. (i.e. the warp in the west, where the agent helps all the different people at the same time) Correct me if I'm wrong here.
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