What in the world happened?

RinaldoGandolphi

I have been away from the game for two weeks due to my father's health issues. (thanks everyone for your kind words)

anyways I logged in today to feed my horse, and glenumbra looked like a ghost town. Where is everybody?

sure there were still people in town but no where near the amount there was 2 weeks ago. Did something happen while I was gone? I really hope people are not bailing on the game. I really want to play the higher level stuff at some point.

Mablung

People have left. If you are in vet ranked zones, people have gone to Craglorn to level instead of questing in the VR zones. Those zones are dead.

deacon13

My contact list is dead . People left fast . They wanted fixes . They wanted changes . They got little of either .

Lalai

Probably a mixture of things going on. For sure some people have left, it's pretty typical for an MMO to lose a good chunk of subs after the first month or two as a lot of folks tend to game hop. In addition to that summer break has started for some folks, which tends to mean vacations and other activities, and less time online. Finally, I would venture a guess that a good portion of the game population has moved on from the initial starting zone at this point in time. So the bulk of the playerbase is likely somewhere in Rivenspire, maybe Stormhaven or Alik'r (non VR).. if you're in VR content then many players probably haven't gotten there, and a lot moved to Craglorn to level after it came out.

I tend to find the most concentration of characters in the bank.. not sure how that works with the way they do phasing and all. Tons of characters standing around the bank could result in less out in the world if it's a population cap for the entire zone.

You're not likely to find many positive opinions on the forums, so if you posted this for reassurance purposes, it was likely in the wrong place, sadly. I would say don't be discouraged though. Lots of people on the FFXIV:ARR forums were complaining about empty servers, empty linkshells, and all their friends leaving.. and that's still going strong with over one million subs What we see on here isn't always representative of what is actually going on.

brandon

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

Asawasa

vet zones aren't dead. some people did leave but there are people still in vet zones to group with to get dungeons, dolmens, and bosses done. there are less people in the vet zones sure but not dead by any means.

Maverick827

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

brandon

Maverick827 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

More like they don't get that this is a 2 month old game and it will have issues
@Maverick827

tilolyen_ESO

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

You sir win the stupid quote of the week, as well as the TOOL of the week. There are so many absurd things wrong with your statement I don't even know where do begin. I will simply say this.......Many people are having game breaking issues preventing them from logging in, others are having game breaking issues preventing them from moving forward in the main quest line, MANY bugs that have remained since BETA. So if you call that people being "Impatient and having a fit", so be it. I call it being soo frustrated, they have no other choice then to leave and take their business elsewhere, because they are paying for a service they are NOT receiving.

EDIT: Corrected the word "win" from "when" because the grammar tools like to deflect what the real issue is.

OrangeTheCat

Maverick827 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

No. I think brandon had it right the first time.

SinXiL

My guess is after weeks of progression blocking bugs, economy destroying exploits, and the polarized player-base either questing or exploit grinding, a massive exodus occurred.

If we wanted to just suffer through exploitation, broken progression, and completely detached and isolated social connections... we could be playing any one of a dozen or so free to play MMOs.

At least in free to play MMOs their customer service people can actually assist you with in game issues like broken quests. And most of them even do all they can to remove exploited currency, items, and character progression from the game as they become aware of it.

But no not Zennimacks, they want to blanket ban people like NCWest did to Aion players, ignore economy destroying exploits like Sony did to Vanguard players, and make a crap-load of promises they have no intention of keeping like Garriot did with his epic failure Tabula Rasa.

Well done Zennimacks... You took a crap on one of the greatest IP's in gaming history, just for the sake of some executive douchewaffle's bonus check. Well done. I hope the money you pay that idiot to do nothing whatsoever is well worth it.

Maybe you coulda spent about 10% of senior VP in charge of destroying the IP douchewaffle's salary and bonus to hire more customer service people though. Maybe then those subs wouldn't be getting canceled by the truckload daily.

Asava

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

Not being able to log in for 4-7 days is not a "fit". I cancelled my account over it since it was a holiday weekend which I had cleared my schedule to grind from vr7 to 12. They have 60+ days to impress me and prove that they're worth a subscription. Most people just did a monthly sub so they'll be gone sooner than later.

Nephys

@Maverick827 Indeed. Some people appear to believe that it is a sacrilege not to continue to support something that fails to meet the particular player's requirements and insist on using emotive nonsense to illustrate their point. Ridiculous.

tilolyen_ESO

brandon wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

More like they don't get that this is a 2 month old game and it will have issues
@Maverick827

Do you like hearing yourself talk? Because obviously you don't have any clue what you are saying here. Please tell me what those that cannot:
1. Log in due to the 301 error
2. Cannot progress due to main quest line broke
3. Numerous other game breaking issues

Are suppose to do? Keep paying a monthly sub and just wait for the issues to be "fixed" because the game is only 2 months old?

brandon

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

You sir when the stupid quote of the week, as well as the TOOL of the week. There are so many absurd things wrong with your statement I don't even know where do begin. I will simply say this.......Many people are having game breaking issues preventing them from logging in, others are having game breaking issues preventing them from moving forward in the main quest line, MANY bugs that have remained since BETA. So if you call that people being "Impatient and having a fit", so be it. I call it being soo frustrated, they have no other choice then to leave and take their business elsewhere, because they are paying for a service they are NOT receiving.

@tilolyen_ESO
I have had the problem with not being able to login, I've also had quests where I couldn't move forward but I'm still here. I have been one of the most upset people in the forums just click on my name and look at my discussions.

Oh and its win not when and I don't think you meant do so maybe you should make sure your spellings correct before calling what I said stupid.

deacon13

Just to check . 2 days ago . I stood at the same active Dolmen in a VR7 zone for over 20mins ...... TWICE . Not one person even came and looked at it .

Posted in open chat X World Boss was up LFM . . 15 Mins. later I get a tell saying they were interested .. The Zone Chat window had not moved in 15 Mins.

Did Trials ...that's where they say everyone is .......wrong LOL

Maverick827

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

No. I think brandon had it right the first time.

Then that would make two insufferably wrong people in this thread.

brandon

Asava wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

Not being able to log in for 4-7 days is not a "fit". I cancelled my account over it since it was a holiday weekend which I had cleared my schedule to grind from vr7 to 12. They have 60+ days to impress me and prove that they're worth a subscription. Most people just did a monthly sub so they'll be gone sooner than later.

@Asava
I was one of the people complaining about that issue. Trust me I know their CS is crap but that isn't going to make me unsubscribe

felixgamingx1

I forgot I purchased this game for the past 5 days or so. ZOS is playing games instead of fixing bugs. Probably unsubbing this weekend.

Hope your Dad doing better.

tilolyen_ESO

brandon wrote: »

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

You sir when the stupid quote of the week, as well as the TOOL of the week. There are so many absurd things wrong with your statement I don't even know where do begin. I will simply say this.......Many people are having game breaking issues preventing them from logging in, others are having game breaking issues preventing them from moving forward in the main quest line, MANY bugs that have remained since BETA. So if you call that people being "Impatient and having a fit", so be it. I call it being soo frustrated, they have no other choice then to leave and take their business elsewhere, because they are paying for a service they are NOT receiving.

@tilolyen_ESO
I have had the problem with not being able to login, I've also had quests where I couldn't move forward but I'm still here. I have been one of the most upset people in the forums just click on my name and look at my discussions.

Oh and its win not when and I don't think you meant do so maybe you should make sure your spellings correct before calling what I said stupid.

Actually I did spell it "win" but the auto correct on the forum changed it. When people have no valid arguments to back up their arguments they revert to nit picking spelling, since we all know this is a English class. If you want to take my spelling to task, I will be happy to go through all your pointless posts and link them here where you misspelled. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

theyancey

Troll thread. Look at the OP's post history. From the now locked thread about his unsubbing on.

Woolenthreads

I have two characters still on Betnikh, which will get to Glenumbra eventually. I suspect that at least some people are staying away because of frustration of casual ingredient sourcing with so many bots around.

Asava

Well as a customer the only power we have with game developers is the power of our wallet. If they refuse to listen to us then our only option is to unsub to show them we won't pay for substandard service, like their CS.

Robocles

The game, in it's current state, is a glorified beta. The fact that class and weapon abilities and passives still don't work 2 months from launch is truly absurd. And, before you say "oh... all MMOs have bugs", I will say no decent MMO has those kinds of bugs.

I'm still here, for the time being, but, ZOS is showing how little experience they have in this arena. More importantly, ZOS is showing what the didn't learn from the mistakes others made in this arena.

Remember, until just about a month ago (you know, one month into the game), they let us believe they were launching on two console platforms this month.

So, I think it is fair to say that ZOS has not delivered anywhere near what they promised, nor have they done a good job of fixing issues that should never have made it into a launch.

Communication has gotten better. But, when you release patches that don't fix items you list in the patch notes, it's hard to expect your customer base is going to put up with it for very long. Some leave early, pissed off that they paid full retail for a game that is broken. Some wait for a while, hoping it gets better (and getting at least some value out of their initial investment). Make no mistake, though: If this game doesn't get some of this ironed out very quickly, we may not need to worry how they can possibly manage the game on 2 more platforms.

brandon

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

You sir when the stupid quote of the week, as well as the TOOL of the week. There are so many absurd things wrong with your statement I don't even know where do begin. I will simply say this.......Many people are having game breaking issues preventing them from logging in, others are having game breaking issues preventing them from moving forward in the main quest line, MANY bugs that have remained since BETA. So if you call that people being "Impatient and having a fit", so be it. I call it being soo frustrated, they have no other choice then to leave and take their business elsewhere, because they are paying for a service they are NOT receiving.

@tilolyen_ESO
I have had the problem with not being able to login, I've also had quests where I couldn't move forward but I'm still here. I have been one of the most upset people in the forums just click on my name and look at my discussions.

Oh and its win not when and I don't think you meant do so maybe you should make sure your spellings correct before calling what I said stupid.

Actually I did spell it "win" but the auto correct on the forum changed it. When people have no valid arguments to back up their arguments they revert to nit picking spelling, since we all know this is a English class. If you want to take my spelling to task, I will be happy to go through all your pointless posts and link them here where you misspelled. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

@tilolyen_ESO
Last time I checked I wasn't trying to be grammatically correct in any of my previous posts. While your calling things people said stupid when you can't even spell correctly.

Lalai

theyancey wrote: »

Troll thread. Look at the OP's post history. From the now locked thread about his unsubbing on.

The topics that the OP has started seem genuinely helpful, and he seems to post his opinion without being hateful. I don't see where you got troll from his posts o.O

Nephys

@Brandon. Ridiculous comments, rather than typos, tend to point to someone's intelligence, or lack of it.

eduardo_goncalveseb17_ESO

Maverick827 wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

A lot of consumers were not getting their hard-earned money's worth and took their business elsewhere.

good answer.

tilolyen_ESO

brandon wrote: »

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

well a lot of impatient people had a fit because they weren't getting their way and left

You sir when the stupid quote of the week, as well as the TOOL of the week. There are so many absurd things wrong with your statement I don't even know where do begin. I will simply say this.......Many people are having game breaking issues preventing them from logging in, others are having game breaking issues preventing them from moving forward in the main quest line, MANY bugs that have remained since BETA. So if you call that people being "Impatient and having a fit", so be it. I call it being soo frustrated, they have no other choice then to leave and take their business elsewhere, because they are paying for a service they are NOT receiving.

@tilolyen_ESO
I have had the problem with not being able to login, I've also had quests where I couldn't move forward but I'm still here. I have been one of the most upset people in the forums just click on my name and look at my discussions.

Oh and its win not when and I don't think you meant do so maybe you should make sure your spellings correct before calling what I said stupid.

Actually I did spell it "win" but the auto correct on the forum changed it. When people have no valid arguments to back up their arguments they revert to nit picking spelling, since we all know this is a English class. If you want to take my spelling to task, I will be happy to go through all your pointless posts and link them here where you misspelled. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

@tilolyen_ESO
Last time I checked I wasn't trying to be grammatically correct in any of my previous posts. While your calling things people said stupid when you can't even spell correctly.

Not only do you have no clue wtf you are saying, I see you have issues with reading comprehension as well. Is it more "stupid" that I did spell the word "win" correctly and the forums auto correct feature changed it without me noticing or it more stupid you are defending the game because its "only 2 months old"??

Bler

I think every vet player is now in either Craglorn (because that's now the best place for VR players to level and find loot) or their in Cyrodiil. The people still in VR zones are people who either a) are playing the game for the story or b) haven't yet realized that you don't HAVE to be VR10 to get into Craglorn.

RinaldoGandolphi

theyancey wrote: »

Troll thread. Look at the OP's post history. From the now locked thread about his unsubbing on.

excuse me? This is not a troll post, I have not said anything about un-subbing, infact I said this game is worth a sub the other day.

I just asked this question because I was taken by surprise today after being away from the game for awhile.

I am not going to get discouraged though, I'm looking forward to playing this game regularly when I get the time to do so because I actually like this game.