For all the belly-achers, take some Pepto.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

I re-wrote my original post mainly because I was being a hypocrite and going against the very thing I was trying to express. My bad.

There are a lot if threads in the forums that are very negative towards the devs and eso. There have been a lot of issues since beta, launch, and today. Any out there who are interested in this game be wary of these forums.

1. Balancing: I think they are on the right track with it but still have a lot of work to do. A lot of things are changing and some skills that were our bread and butter might not be as grand as they once were. All 4 classes should be valid in all situations. DK's aren't useless, they are just getting to the same level as all the other classes.

2. VR ranks are too hard: I think every now and then there are some unfair parts of questing in VR but it's not impossible. I have solo'd all of vet 7 so far and it's been a lot of trials and error, skill tweaks, and grouping. Friends are good, it is an MMO after all.

3. Quitters. If you don't like the game don't play it. I don't think everyone cares if you don't want to play anymore. Just remember you can always come back if content is appealing to you.

This post may be pointless but I think the community at large is a pretty good one. I have fun with random ppl in game, but when I come here it's a little sad. There is constructive criticism out there but not enough it to stand against the emotion come from some ppl.

Hadria

It's the same crap on all mmo forums these"gamers"are the absolute worst how can they even call themselves gamers it's a disgrace

Lord_Draevan

What we see here on the forums whining isn't the majority, it's just a very vocal minority that we see whining in EVERY game. Most people are playing the game and having fun.

steveb16_ESO46

OP. You're a BIG man. A BIG man you internet warrior you. Well done. That's told them.

shiningforce

You know you can skip over the quitting posts right? Your actually the troll here! People pay for a service and when a game does not provide what it says it will there are going to be those posts you hate. So dont be a fanboy, Zenimax isnt going to send you a thank you letter.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

They are a poison to other players. Infecting them with their negative thoughts. I wonder if these forums effect the self esteem of the devs working on new content. They are happy to release new content only to see it bashed and bruised by some of the community. It's a shame too because most of the ppl that don't have much to complain about are happily playing the game and don't venture here much.

Lord_Draevan

shiningforce wrote: »

You know you can skip over the quitting posts right? Your actually the troll here! People pay for a service and when a game does not provide what it says it will there are going to be those posts you hate. So dont be a fanboy, Zenimax isnt going to send you a thank you letter.

The majority of the quitting posts I see on the forums are just whining and offer little to no constructive criticism on how to improve the game.

Sanibel

Great post OP.

Evergnar

So much drama in this thread. Think I'll go make some popcorn.

shiningforce

Hadria wrote: »

It's the same crap on all mmo forums these"gamers"are the absolute worst how can they even call themselves gamers it's a disgrace

What is a gamer to you? It really has no exact definition. So stop using it, your grandmother plays facebook games, shes a gamer. Having alot of games or type of games = collector. Knowing information about history of gaming/games/etc = Enthusiast , Playing videogames = Gamer (People that play only 1 game like CoD call themselves gamers), or the most common person calling themselves gamer or using the word gamer = child. It has no meaning like Nerd nowadays.

steveb16_ESO46

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

shiningforce wrote: »

You know you can skip over the quitting posts right? Your actually the troll here! People pay for a service and when a game does not provide what it says it will there are going to be those posts you hate. So dont be a fanboy, Zenimax isnt going to send you a thank you letter.

The majority of the quitting posts I see on the forums are just whining and offer little to no constructive criticism on how to improve the game.

And posts like the OP are uncritical, helping no one trolling bullcrap probably or might as well have been placed by a Reputation Management company.

Someone's feelings should be rolled up in a tight little ball in a dark room whimpering given some of the shoddy stuff that's been served up, never mind hurt.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

shiningforce wrote: »

You know you can skip over the quitting posts right? Your actually the troll here! People pay for a service and when a game does not provide what it says it will there are going to be those posts you hate. So dont be a fanboy, Zenimax isnt going to send you a thank you letter.

Your missing the point but your not wrong. Maybe I am the troll that got a little fed up expecting more from these forums. A lot of ppl on here do have good complaints and others not so much. I know there are a lot out there who feel the same as me and do enjoy the game. Maybe this forum isn't the place for us

stungateb14_ESO

op is the kind of person when driving through some fast food joint and gets something rotten knowing full well theres rat *** in it eats it anyway because hes that kind of guy...amiright tough guy?

Drasn

orangeman57ub17_ESO wrote: »

Over the course of time since launch, 95% of the forums have been whining, spoiled little and big kids crying left and right. Stop it!

1. Balancing babies: just because you can't solo craglorn dungeons anymore with your DK doesn't mean it's useless. Get your head out of the clouds and back on the ground with the rest of us. They are doing their best to balance the classes to make them more equal. Give them a little slack.

2. Quitters: just quit already. If you aren't happy with content then un sub and go. I'm sure thousands of strangers don't care why you don't want to play this game, so stop flooding the forums with your tears.

3. VR too hard: it's not called veteran ranks because it's easy. This ain't the Mc Donald's play place. It's supposed to be hard. I'm a stamina sorc (bow and dual blades) doing all vet content solo (vr7) and it's pretty hard but not impossible. Practice, trial and error, and friends make vet content easy. This is an mmo after all. Your not forced to team up but it is encouraged.

4. "Eso is going F2P": gently remove your fingers from the keyboard and sit on a thumb tack. Zenimax has enough fight in them to keep this game a subscription based game going for a long time. This might be an argument after 8-12 months but not now. I see players running around having fun everywhere. Even in NG++. And that's on weeknights.

All in all I think ESO is a great game. It has it's issues but zenimax is working on them. I know I put a big target on my head and a sign that reads "trolls eat for free", but I think the ESO community needs to be more positive and help zenimax with constructive criticism. For the ppl on the forums that are constantly throwing a hissy, go make your own game just the way you want it. Here's my 2 cents to get you started.

No. You stop it.

MaxBat

NM

ErykGrimm

Whining about whiners to deter future whining...inception.

MasterSpatula

[snip] This game has real problems. Addressing them, even occasionally getting emotional over them, is perfectly appropriate.

People love this game. They love playing this game, and they want to continue playing this game for a long time. The way to do that is through addressing its issues and fixing its problems, not through showing off your e-peen by insulting, degrading, and belittling "whiners" and "spoiled brats."

The person lowering the tone and quality of the conversation here is you.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity] Profanity][/i][/b]

Mablung

The hypocrisy of these threads. Essentially it posters like the OP stating I hate whiners/complainers but listen to me complain/whine about them.

It is just a self serving post. Nothing to see here.

Drasn

Mablung wrote: »

The hypocrisy of these threads. Essentially it posters like the OP stating I hate whiners/complainers but listen to me complain/whine about them.

It is just a self serving post. Nothing to see here.

Nerf whiners and complainers, nerf the OP.

Dusty5

Really the nerve of people to expect the working-finish product they paid for.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

Yeah I didn't really come off in a positive way. This game has been a roller coaster for sure. I won't say I don't deserve the responses from this post but zenimax and eso doesn't deserve some of the feedback they have received. Even in a perfect world they will still get flak

Mablung

orangeman57ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I didn't really come off in a positive way. This game has been a roller coaster for sure. I won't say I don't deserve the responses from this post but zenimax and eso doesn't deserve some of the feedback they have received. Even in a perfect world they will still get flak

More self serving drivel.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

My post wasn't supposed to be directed at everyone on these forums that don't like how this game is being developed. It was more for the ppl who can't communicate their thoughts and feelings in a constructive way (apparently me too lol). I apologize for my behavior, that's not how I like to do things. I was just mad.

MasterSpatula

orangeman57ub17_ESO wrote: »

I apologize for my behavior, that's not how I like to do things. I was just mad.

Good enough for me. I take back my irritated response (but not enough to delete it ).

MaxBat

orangeman57ub17_ESO wrote: »

My post wasn't supposed to be directed at everyone on these forums that don't like how this game is being developed. It was more for the ppl who can't communicate their thoughts and feelings in a constructive way (apparently me too lol). I apologize for my behavior, that's not how I like to do things. I was just mad.

Me, too. You, sir, deserve an awesome. And I deleted my post ...

kieso

lame post is lame.

Maverick827

For all the crying about the belly achers, start using Johnson's No More Tears Baby Shampoo.

Mablung

MaxBat wrote: »

orangeman57ub17_ESO wrote: »

My post wasn't supposed to be directed at everyone on these forums that don't like how this game is being developed. It was more for the ppl who can't communicate their thoughts and feelings in a constructive way (apparently me too lol). I apologize for my behavior, that's not how I like to do things. I was just mad.

Me, too. You, sir, deserve an awesome. And I deleted my post ...

Why would you do that? It doesn't change the fact that he started this absurd thread nor edit/delete his inflammatory post.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

I'm at work and it took me a second to get back on. I think I edited it right, question mark.

GreySix

So in a nutshell, the game is absolutely perfect as-is, and anyone coming here to post otherwise should pound sand and quit.

Got it.

orangeman57ub17_ESO

It's nowhere near perfect. Ppl need to offer more constructive criticism instead of fireballs