Thank you ZeniMax for Handing Daggerfall the Map

TheGrandAlliance

...with the abbrupt stopping of mercs and the lowering of population cap (thus locking out players)... DC (EU Dawnbreaker) was able to wipe the map we were holding up until that time. In fact now they have a real shot of taking first place. All thanks to ZeniMax of course...

Why is population caps a problem? People (who have lives) only have so much time to play. When they are locked out during basically the entire afternoon/evening due to caps they cannot PvP on their server. With guesting elite populations using this to their advantage as well on rival factions this means that your server's balance is destroyed. As a result your faction is "nerfed' because you are not able to surge and take map in primetime like usual. And over time people quit the game/transfer servers.

Then the game becomes a nightcapping operation: Forget primetime play... just cap the night. /easymode /roflstomp especially without mercenaries. The one-two punch of changes thus destroy the balance of PvP.


Alas: The PvP Wars Continue...

Avidus

Mercs should not be able to decide the fate of a campaign, if I was on the EU server, I would be more than happy to jump and flaunt my stuff. But alas, I am NA.
Good luck with your war though!

lao

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...with the abbrupt stopping of mercs... DC (EU Dawnbreaker) was able to wipe the map we were holding up until that time.


Alas... the PvP wars Continue...

wait a minute...

are you complaining that you couldnt hold the map without spamming broken mercs?

Junipus

Sounds like it.

This couldn't be a more obvious crying thread if the title was "Wah wah!"

ErykGrimm

And so the age of merc wars came to pass.

lao

nvm i just realized who the OP is. it all makes sense now......

FENGRUSH

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

...with the abbrupt stopping of mercs... DC (EU Dawnbreaker) was able to wipe the map we were holding up until that time.


Alas... the PvP wars Continue...

Sounds like DC is better than you.

Lowbei

lol in here

Samadhi

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

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Alas... the PvP wars Continue...

"Alas" ?

So you're disappointed that players have to fight actual players instead of NPCs?

limbaughb14_ESO

Merc spammer tears, love it. Keep mercs out for good.

TheGrandAlliance

Samadhi wrote: »

"Alas" ?

So you're disappointed that players have to fight actual players instead of NPCs?

Yes... because Cyrodiil isn't pure PVP enviroment.


Furthermore: No real challenge if a bunch of VR12s can nightcap a map without resistance.

TheGrandAlliance

Update: It is getting worse. Without mercs blue just /roflstomp the map at nighttime since seige is effectively still worthless vs vr10+.

We may actually lose the map now thanks to ZeniMax...

Stovahkiin

Ain't that a shame.

Rylana

So stop trying to make PvP a PvE game and get in there and kick their asses.

TheGrandAlliance

Rylana wrote: »

So stop trying to make PvP a PvE game and get in there and kick their asses.

Doesn't work when you have nightcampers. I used to have some on my faction but due to all the stupidness of Zenimax 90%+ of first 2 month server population has /quit ESO.

With all these new players... they cannot stand up versus guesting VR12 groups of BLue. Even if we outnumber blue by a bit it doens't matter when your average level is VR3 and theirs is VR10-12.

IF VR10 was bad enough... with addition of Craglorn now Indeed this game just became Home of the VR12s. Without mercs to at least slow them down there isn't even a challenge left. Nothign will stop them: No seige nor player.


This been going on for 2 weeks but recently since everyone zerged to try to use the Anonomly exploit now there is a ton of VR12s on the map. Everyone who didn't "exploit" their way up is now outmatched.


And now with player population caps... we cannot use numbers to our advantage: What is worse is that (elite) guilds are now quiting the server due to this. As a result there is no way to make a numbers advantage vs the blue VR12 forces. Since yellow has given this map up long ago there is now a real chance of losing this map.

We were 60K ahead at one point. At time of post we are around 45K I think. If we loose this map in next 16 days remaning it will be proof that this game's PvP is broken.

xMovingTarget

Red did the nightcap all the time. nobody really complaint.

Or you just cant nightcap anymore because there are enemies in blue at that time. now that is a shame isnt it?

Gisgo

Nightcappers = anyone staying awake longer than you.
Do you expect everyone to stop playing while you are offline?

Btw get the factions right: bananas tomatoes and smurfs.

TheGrandAlliance

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Red did the nightcap all the time. nobody really complaint.

Or you just cant nightcap anymore because there are enemies in blue at that time. now that is a shame isnt it?

No more like player population quit and blue brings in guest population from other servers from AB and the like.

TheGrandAlliance

Gisgo wrote: »

Nightcappers = anyone staying awake longer than you.
Do you expect everyone to stop playing while you are offline?

Btw get the factions right: bananas tomatoes and smurfs.

WEll I call Red==Redshirts and not tomatoes (Star Trek reference) alas. The problem is mercs not nightcapping. With mercs you can hold them back. WIthout then you just giving them the map to whomever stays online longer (or is able to import Americans to EU server).

Rylana

Seems to me like you have a bit of an overblown sense of self importance regarding this map.

"I flipped it my way, so now anything that makes it go the other way when I am not online is wrong"

You dont own Cyrodiil. Either recruit some euros or aussies to watch the times youre asleep or just deal with it when you get up the next day.

Game is 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Good luck trying to be there for all of it.

This thread is honestly just a whine.

TheGrandAlliance

Mates it is more like the rules keep changing day in day out.... now the rules favor elite guilds who can crowd out other players. As a result having "randoms" and sub-vr12 on your server spells /doom .


Unless you propose on making Cyrodiil VR12 only zones... this doesn't help anyone. Furthermore the removal of mercenaries caused an inbalance that they were supposed to provide.


AND BTW IF YOU THOUGHT I AM HAVING PROBLEMS... AD HAS BASICALLY BEEN WIPED FROM EXISTANCE. THEY HAVE NO CHANCE AT ALL. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY FEEL?...

Gisgo

Hmmmm do you realize you are probably the only player missing mercenaries?

TheGrandAlliance

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Gisgo wrote: »

Hmmmm do you realize you are probably the only player missing mercenaries?

Last time I checked there are many others who liked them too. Do research on the Alliance War threads you will see. By making the game more pure PvP... it is simply a matter of mathmatics. More players @ higher lvls ==winner. No skill in that.

Rylana

And placing mercenaries all over the place was skill?

TheGrandAlliance

Rylana wrote: »

And placing mercenaries all over the place was skill?

No different the DK spaming talon claws/banner, vamps using batsworm, or whatever is a skill. In fact proper mercenary use is hard because you have to place them in the right area at the right time or you just waste them.

Rylana

I think we are done here.

TheGrandAlliance

No we are not. In fact far from it. The "balance" this game had at launch, and perhaps briefly after Craglorn patch, is gone.

InvictoNZ

All I hear is PvE.

TheGrandAlliance

InvictoNZ wrote: »

All I hear is PvE.

Cyrodiil IS PvE: You are fighting to save your alliance (which is computer controled). Player are not 100% of alliance population... else there would be no story.

TheGrandAlliance

The poll is sinking thats what happened... ZeniMax intentionally did this as you can see for yourself. IT "claims" the last post was June 6 even though there are many other posts since. Now it is somewhere on Page 5 or further on Alliance War threads.


If you checked the date of the OP it was a few weeks ago. I just recently updated it today that were all these posts are comming from. I can more then one war on forums at once you know... unlike some countries of a certain planet Earth it appears... Alas efforts are probably hopeless in the end in either case.


Hense... thoughs "Preliminary Sensors" of yours malfunctioning. Redshirts always die in the end you know:) Fact almost starting to think AoE caps at 6 is a "bad idea" now...

Wolfahm

they sink you polls because you over react and scream and yell and kick and cry like a 3 year old soon as someone says something you dislike. They asked us to discuss the new pvp server idea and you flipped the *** out like a tool.. almost starting to understand why ZOS never talks.

PS. you seem to think I am from murica...