About Nightblade's Magicka regen

Nightgard

Hi,

all our class skills use magicka but we don't have any magicka regen passive or active.

We only have the executioner, if you kill a target with an assassination skill you get 168 magicka over 6 seconds... OMG that's so powerful ! (not even enough to use one skill)
When refreshing shadows give us +30% stamina regen for 6s , it's around 200 to 280 stamina in 6s.

Refreshing shadows > use a magicka skill to regen stamina... ok why not, but let us have a magicka regen if we use a stamina skill then ...

You want us to play with our stamina (medium armor is stamina regen and weapon crit) but all our powerful skills use magicka.

Right now it's Stamina regen/cost diminution everywhere, with Two handed, with bow, with dual wield, with medium armor, even in the shadow tree. Come on !

Gisgo

I use a lot of stamina and im very happy about this change.
If you feel you need more magicka regen than stamina regen why dont you swap a couple of pieces of medium for two pieces of light armor?

Nightgard

Because I will lose weapon crit, weapon speed, crouch and doge reductions and some armor.

and I will get what 6% more magicka regen ? it will bring me from 70 to 76 magicka regen.
It's 3 magicka every second.

You lose too much and win too little .

Gisgo

Choices...

Nightgard

I mean, why shadow would have +30% stamina regen when have so many stamina regen already.

Couldn't we have an equivalent +30% magicka regen somewhere ?


it's not about choices, it's Balance.

They said, "play as you want" , not "play stamina base build because we said so"

Gisgo

You want it all, thats not balance.
You are complaining because we just got a free stamina regen... wtf?

Nightgard

I don't want it all.

You said "choices". choices is ok when it's between two equal choices. It's not the case.

I want to play with a magicka build (mainly class skills), I can't.

Nightgard

I don't have a choice here I have to play a stamina base build, period. How nice !

Gisgo

Nightgard wrote: »

I don't want it all.

You said "choices". choices is ok when it's between two equal choices. It's not the case.

I want to play with a magicka build (mainly class skills), I can't.

Yes you can, in fact most of the NBs out there are playing a magicka build.

You want to play a magicka build while wearing 7/7 medium armor (clearly designed for a stamina build), but thats your problem.

Nightgard

but weapon crit is on medium gear, how should I be effective as a DD without weapon crit ?!

Gisgo

I give up...

Nightgard

So I should play the shadow tree with 2.5 second cloack and backstab skills with a light armor and a staff.

That sounds right

You didn't get just a stamina regen new passive, you got a upteenth stamina regen skill. How many more do you want when we have so few magicka regen skills...

Gisgo

Nightgard wrote: »

So I should play the shadow tree with 2.5 second cloack and backstab skills with a light armor and a staff.

That sounds right

You didn't get just a stamina regen new passive, you got a upteenth stamina regen skill. How many more do you want when we have so few magicka regen skills...

No it sounds stupid, but do whatever floats your boat.
FYI im playing a stamina/medium/DW NB and didnt suggest you to become a mage, just to switch a couple of pieces of armor, since you lamented the lack of magicka regen.
Sorry for bringing some common sense in your thread.

Nightgard

Dude,

if I swtich 3 pieces I will get 9% magicka regen and lack crit dmg and other stuff for my entire game session while you just got a 6 second 30% free stamina regen.

how can you compare ?! And call it "common sense"

Gisgo

Then you dont need magicka regen that much, do you?
As i already said, its about choices.
You cant have magicka regen AND stamina regen AND weapon crit, gotcha?

Probably not, in your mind NBs should be able to regen both magicka and stamina and have infinite resources...

Nightgard

I can't yeah that's the entire problem because all our class skills use magicka.

So if you want to be a good NB with nice crit you have to forget class skills.


Be a good NB --> play only weapon skills.
How is that even close to logical in your head ?

Gisgo

Ok man, whatever... i would spend more time with you but the thread about unplayable DKs is way more entertaining.

Nightgard

Cloak > backstab > finish the guy under 24%. 3 skills to do that, 3 that use magicka.

But it you want that rotation to be effective you need weapon critics.

How should I do now mister common sense , really , tell me I will be happy to learn because that's why I'm here. ?

ThisOnePosts

Here's an idea.... get Magicka regen on all of the items you can. Also take some Magicka food, they are cheap and easy to make if you don't want to spend gold.

I am NB, I have plenty of Magicka Regen and Stamina Regen both... given I USE BOTH. I also use Medium armor ... with the warlock set vr12 (including the hood). So that's 1 piece of light armor. Of course you can switch entirely to light armor, but try the warlock set. Or even 2 rings and the necklace My Magicka Regen is over the soft cap as is my Stamina Regen so you are definitely needing to swap out some of your stats on armor/jewelry etc..

Nightgard

ViciousWayz wrote: »

Here's an idea.... get Magicka regen on all of the items you can. Also take some Magicka food, they are cheap and easy to make if you don't want to spend gold.

I am NB, I have plenty of Magicka Regen and Stamina Regen both... given I USE BOTH. I also use Medium armor ... with the warlock set vr12 (including the hood). So that's 1 piece of light armor. Of course you can switch entirely to light armor, but try the warlock set. Or even 2 rings and the necklace My Magicka Regen is over the soft cap as is my Stamina Regen so you are definitely needing to swap out some of your stats on armor/jewelry etc..

Well thank you that's more constructive that the previous 10 answers.

I already have rings and necklace on magicka regen, I have actually 76 magicka regen and 70 stamina regen.

But it doesn't seem to be enough, after 2 foes I'm out of magicka for the third.

Did you go full magicka in your abilities and enchantment ?

Bhakura

Lol these threads, executioner useless?
i wonder how im able to run from mob to mob without a break and spam my skills, a full bar of magicka skills ...
Oh and i have 0 magicka regen items.
NB is best class to have unlimited resources and still people cry the resources are problematic ... what the hell do you want???

Yes i have healing staff, but i only use it to, well, heal, in group, and i hardly ever group so hardly ever use healing staff.

Gisgo

Nightgard wrote: »

Well thank you that's more constructive that the previous 10 answers.

Read my first answer:

Gisgo wrote: »

I use a lot of stamina and im very happy about this change.
If you feel you need more magicka regen than stamina regen why dont you swap a couple of pieces of medium for two pieces of light armor?

Constructive enough, imho, but you still wanted to be an ass.

Nightgard

I already told you Gisgo that even 3 pieces of armor is only 9% regen. That's nothing compare to the 30% burst regen.
It was constructive but the next messages were not, sorry

Bhakura wrote: »

Lol these threads, executioner useless?
i wonder how im able to run from mob to mob without a break and spam my skills, a full bar of magicka skills ...
Oh and i have 0 magicka regen items.
NB is best class to have unlimited resources and still people cry the resources are problematic ... what the hell do you want???

Yes i have healing staff, but i only use it to, well, heal, in group, and i hardly ever group so hardly ever use healing staff.

Yeah you get 168 magicka AFTER you kill a guy. It's not even enough to use a skill for next foe so I don't see how you can find that usefull.
It's nice but ... that's all.

And with zero magicka regen and a full bar of magicka skills I really want to see a video of that.
maybe with siphoning strikes ?
But tell me how do you manage, I would love to be able to do that.

Bhakura

Hmm yes, what could it be ...
full magicka spec, full magicka skill bar + killer blade executioner + siphonstrikes nonstop activated = unlimited magicka resources and running around in heavy armor because light armor was just overkill on the magicka bonus.
Try it and come cry again resources are impossible, not even sorcs have this kind of resource management.

Nightgard

yeah the siphoning strikes does the trick.
Problem is for vet dungeons, 28% less DPS is huge. I'll give it a try but...

Bhakura

Its not "huge", it makes you spam skills, without, you dont = less damage too. At vet 7 i throw 400-900 dps on groups, 300-500 solo targets
Probably not best, but it sure doesnt slow me down since i dont have to stand idle to regen or wait for pots to come out of cd. Im running down vet content same speed as normal areas and run content much faster then sorcs or dks, just because of the "huge" dps debuff, strange huh? :P

Shouldnt make so much advertisement for the skill before zenimax decides to nerf it too

poodlemasterb16_ESO

So simple. Just enchant your stupid armor. You can also just eat or drink to change your base stats a lot. The high level drink will give you strong regeneration across 2 attributes if they are blue. Mine run an hour.

I am leveling an army and my Enchanter and Provisioner give all my chars a fair 'unfair advantage'. They go out a level or two above what they would be otherwise as well. All new armor and weapons every even level. Everything tailored just for that char. The char I am leveling will have green and blue equipment, again all enchanted to my purpose. You get the picture. I break everything they find down.

A lot slower and I'm running levels 27, 25, 18, 16, 15, 14, 10, 4 on 8 chars. I'm here for the long haul. Still my level 50 provisioner makes VR5 stuff, and my level 22 woodworker etc make stuff up to level 50 and we supply some of my son's VR1 NB's stuff as well. He is still using the blue bow my witch made him when he turned 50.

Nightgard

Bhakura wrote: »

Shouldnt make so much advertisement for the skill before zenimax decides to nerf it too

Lol.

So yeah I tried with siphoning strikes, finishing the fight against 3 foes at 66% magicka instead of 15%...

it does indeed the trick. Now I lost my DoT to slot it but... oh well it's a start. thanks

lao

siphoning strikes

your welcome.

Nightgard

lao wrote: »

siphoning strikes

your welcome.

I just said I tried it in the comment right above yours... but thanks for answering I guess.




And something to add about siphoning strikes, stamina base builds don't need to use it because of all the stamina regen passive and active skills in existence.

So yeah, it's a fix but it's still -25% dps and a takes a slot in the bar.

So , temporary fix. NB DDs with stamina builds still have an advantage.

lao

Nightgard wrote: »

lao wrote: »

siphoning strikes

your welcome.

I just said I tried it in the comment right above yours... but thanks for answering I guess.




And something to add about siphoning strikes, stamina base builds don't need to use it because of all the stamina regen passive and active skills in existence.

So yeah, it's a fix but it's still -25% dps and a takes a slot in the bar.

So , temporary fix. NB DDs with stamina builds still have an advantage.

its not a temporary fix.... its the single most powerful pve ability in the game. period. doesnt matter if it takes a slot in the bar either as NB only needs 3 slots to solo basically every mob in the game that doesnt bring an obscene amount of adds. that leaves 2 slots and an ulti to deal with mobs that bring adds. basically u can solo everything.