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TheGrandAlliance

Edit: Until Mercenaries are Restored and NOT ALL PVP SERVERS GET SHUT DOWN... the following post is no longer valid.


With Patch 1.1.3: The final heavy-used exploit of Caltrops/AoE vs seige that has caused problems has been fixed. Now the PvP mode is finally balanced... for now.


Some technical issues remain; such as figuring out where population caps should be set at, lag due to EU servers in USA, and of course minor class issues, nonetheless THE GAME'S PVP COMBAT IS ONCE AGAIN BALANCED!


Indeed... Not all of you liked/agree the changes ZeniMax made: Such as AoE cap situation, merc useage and others. However that doesn't mean the game isn't BALANCED.


...SO COME BACK and Enjoy ESO's PvP like the first week again!

GrimCyclone

lol

GeeYouWhy

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

lag due to EU servers in USA

Sorry to burst your bubble but I live in the US and play on the EU server, we have the same lag here.

frwinters_ESO

Still some lag spikes on NA Wabbajack...but it was better for a time... Still looking for the documented lag free experience.

Lodestar

GeeYouWhy wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

lag due to EU servers in USA

Sorry to burst your bubble but I live in the US and play on the EU server, we have the same lag here.

Yes, I know. But some of my fellow Europeans are so set on this, happening, they are not listening.

Part of it may be residual feelings of angst at game companies not giving much recognition to Eu communities.

NerfEverything

Dat Oil...so OP now.

At least I'll have something to do for the next 4 days while my sub runs out.

Fuzzylumpkins

Read below

Fuzzylumpkins

Fuzzylumpkins wrote: »

* Level imbalance
-speed hacks
-port hacks
-Lag caused by using any ability
- Lag in general- not just concerning the entire EU population playing US servers and still feeling slightly misled
- 1 second respawn timer for guards, esp menders


I will let the list simmer a bit because it is long. but yeah, compress campaigns- dedicate 2 campaigns to Vet+ only and 2 campaigns to 49 and unders while dumping the rest because there , in very frank honesty, is not the player population to even consider supporting them. But yeah balanced woot

Good times.

edit: Glad this wasn't done during the weekly maint times. I mean for real, then we would feel something was be done then

GeeYouWhy

Lodestar wrote: »

Yes, I know. But some of my fellow Europeans are so set on this, happening, they are not listening.

Part of it may be residual feelings of angst at game companies not giving much recognition to Eu communities.

I can understand that.

TheGrandAlliance

Fuzzylumpkins wrote: »

* Level imbalance
-speed hacks
-port hacks
-Lag caused by using any ability
- Lag in general- not just concerning the entire EU population playing US servers and still feeling slightly misled
- 1 second respawn timer for guards, esp menders

1. The hacks are generally used by goldspammers, and are not commonly used. Furthermore it is a bannable offense. Furthermore once agian I have not seen it used much, nor does it help in certain situations. No Elite pvper is gonna risk ban to their account hacking game files.

2. Lag is probably due to massive rush of players into game. Yes... lag is a problem... but that doesn't mean the combat isn't balanced. Lag is equal opportunity offender.

3. 1second respawn timer? I have yet to see this...

4. Level Imbalance: THis game is Home of the Vets... don't mistake it for anything else. Low lvls are not able to be effective in PvP. However VR1+; esp VR5+ should be at least semi-effect.


Alas... the game is BALANCED... doesn't mean you LIKE it...

Saboer

Lol i am happy to see the pvp population is back atleast on european megaserver. Many alliances full again when last 2 weeks population was mostly low status...

Fuzzylumpkins

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Fuzzylumpkins wrote: »

* Level imbalance
-speed hacks
-port hacks
-Lag caused by using any ability
- Lag in general- not just concerning the entire EU population playing US servers and still feeling slightly misled
- 1 second respawn timer for guards, esp menders

1. The hacks are generally used by goldspammers, and are not commonly used. Furthermore it is a bannable offense. Furthermore once agian I have not seen it used much, nor does it help in certain situations. No Elite pvper is gonna risk ban to their account hacking game files.

2. Lag is probably due to massive rush of players into game. Yes... lag is a problem... but that doesn't mean the combat isn't balanced. Lag is equal opportunity offender.

3. 1second respawn timer? I have yet to see this...

4. Level Imbalance: THis game is Home of the Vets... don't mistake it for anything else. Low lvls are not able to be effective in PvP. However VR1+; esp VR5+ should be at least semi-effect.


Alas... the game is BALANCED... doesn't mean you LIKE it...

YOU have not seen it yet. Well that means it does not happen. I will ignore the fraps, you-tube vids and dozens of topics in this forum concerning these well documented issues. Thank you. When I need something to be made clear to me or just vanish in the future I will consult your absolute wisdom in the matter. Because if you did not see it, it did not happen.

Evergnar

Thx for update. I'll have to check it out tonight. If the lag/latency isn't back to the way it was before Craglorn I won't be staying long though. I have a fear of getting stuck in Cyrodiil forever.

TheGrandAlliance

Evergnar wrote: »

Thx for update. I'll have to check it out tonight. If the lag/latency isn't back to the way it was before Craglorn I won't be staying long though. I have a fear of getting stuck in Cyrodiil forever.

Lag situation is random. IT isn't always there and hard to explain why it exists sometimes and doesn't others. Either case as long as your computer is good, and DONT go above 4 groups per raid, you should be fine.

bloodenragedb14_ESO

mercs are still world boss rank, and give no ap, really pvp right now is "who bought the most mercs"

pvp still broken

LilMcGinley

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

mercs are still world boss rank, and give no ap, really pvp right now is "who bought the most mercs"

pvp still broken

Merc vendor has been taken out of the game, just FYI

TheGrandAlliance

LilMcGinley wrote: »

Merc vendor has been taken out of the game, just FYI

Uhmmmmm they are still there you know?.... Me just bought some mages.


And remember both sides can use Mercs. Furthermore they disappear after 10 min. Also as players level up they are not as effective.

Gecko

It is still borked for small groups. 1 person can defend a keep for a long time against a raid of 20 or less with the current merc spam, especially since they tend to bug out and go invulnerable when large numbers are spawned. Between that and the fast respawning guards it is not really fun anymore. It was much more fun when smaller groups (not a giant zerg) could make a difference or had the ability to actually take keeps with the right tactics. there are still a few that work, but they are pretty cheeseball.

TheGrandAlliance

Gecko wrote: »

It is still borked for small groups. 1 person can defend a keep for a long time against a raid of 20 or less with the current merc spam, especially since they tend to bug out and go invulnerable when large numbers are spawned. Between that and the fast respawning guards it is not really fun anymore. It was much more fun when smaller groups (not a giant zerg) could make a difference or had the ability to actually take keeps with the right tactics. there are still a few that work, but they are pretty cheeseball.

NO... that just lead to tons of ninja-raiding by VR10+s all over the map. This way forces battles to require strategy and not just mindless ram doors down and take fast.

TheGrandAlliance

*Correction... mercs finally been disabled on my EU servers now.......


Time to loose the map!

doggie

So I can't die in pvp now since it's safe?

subecsanur

What is PvP?

TheGrandAlliance

doggie wrote: »

So I can't die in pvp now since it's safe?

No its safe to do it without having to worry about OP exploits that will ensure your DOOM. If you die it is because you failed LOL....

TheGrandAlliance

subecsanur wrote: »

What is PvP?

When you kill other player-controlled characters for meaningless in-game rewards.

crislevin

won't bother, you did once, you did them all, repetitive, tiresome, spend 80% of the time traveling.

TheGrandAlliance

crislevin wrote: »

won't bother, you did once, you did them all, repetitive, tiresome, spend 80% of the time traveling.

1. You only travel if you die a lot. FUthermore there is an "exploit" of sorts whereas u can guest onto other PvP servers as a fast exit from your current location.

2. Other stuff only applies if you do not have good organization on your server.

Rotherhans

Zenimax fixing PvP:

(actually valid for fixing anything in this game)

TheGrandAlliance

@rotherhans

That video makes no sense.

GrimlockSaves

NerfEverything wrote: »

Dat Oil...so OP now.

HAHAHA, ME QOUTE FOR TRUTH.

TheGrandAlliance

Note: Looks like I posted too soon LOL. With mercs disabled... maps being wiped again with bigger zerg.

Rotherhans

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

@rotherhans

That video makes no sense.

Rushed, panik, breaking other stuff in the process..

Is that enough or do I need to paint you a map?