DK wants to roflstomp now but how ?

rebellisb16_ESO

Hi there,

as the title sais I want to roflstomp through these silly quests. I barely see a NB nor Templar anymore but only Sorces and some DKs - from which the DK usually has an epic fight for eternity the Sorc just roflstomps everything while toying with his/her pets for the fluff.

Can anyone provide some decent roflstomp build please? I am around vet 3-4 now and struggle hard with the rather hard quests and fed up of receiving tons of 1200 dmg hits from the most unnotable enemies like wisps.

Cheers

Teargrants

Shrooms. Then you'll be big enough to stomp on anything, and go head to head with Molag Bal.

Commonpain

...a DK struggling in Vet 3-4 PVE?... o.O maybe you should go see a doctor...
Please try rerolling NB or Templar, after playing VET content with these classes you'll feel like any DK build is a "ROFLSTOMP" Build

rebellisb16_ESO

Well, I cannot help me with my melee DK. I just keep struggling hard with most trash groups. Easy and plain.

Although I appreciate your rather funny comments I was looking for something more valuable in regards of spec ideas and such stuff. Thanks for the lols

demonlkojipub19_ESO

If your meleeing in pve use ash storm more. The miss chance helps a lot.

rebellisb16_ESO

I am using Ash Storm in my current build and it helps alot - however, it does not help me to burst down certain thrash groups as I would like to - similar to what I see from some mages with their petty army.

Also using the breath to reduce my opponents armor rating.
The main problem I face is some insane damage to deal with. I can easily take a hit of 1000 once but not three times from a single group of three mobs. Thats simply silly and might not even be an issue with the DK itself but with game difficulty balance.

Some heavy attacks I receive are simply too strong along with their knockback and some dumb follow up attacks. Blocking them is sometimes not a valid option due to missing stamina used up to execute poor attacks.

Therefore I want to roflstomp everything now without using my brain at all. I need my brain to decide between the different chocolate to eat now as well as choosing between beer, coffee and coke and to think about some rant for this forum.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

Oh, I see what you did thar.

Erock25

rebellisb16_ESO wrote: »

I am using Ash Storm in my current build and it helps alot - however, it does not help me to burst down certain thrash groups as I would like to - similar to what I see from some mages with their petty army.

Also using the breath to reduce my opponents armor rating.
The main problem I face is some insane damage to deal with. I can easily take a hit of 1000 once but not three times from a single group of three mobs. Thats simply silly and might not even be an issue with the DK itself but with game difficulty balance.

Some heavy attacks I receive are simply too strong along with their knockback and some dumb follow up attacks. Blocking them is sometimes not a valid option due to missing stamina used up to execute poor attacks.

Therefore I want to roflstomp everything now without using my brain at all. I need my brain to decide between the different chocolate to eat now as well as choosing between beer, coffee and coke and to think about some rant for this forum.

Well your problem is that you are using melee attacks. Those Sorc that are cruising a long are not using melee weapons either. You have to save all your stamina for blocking since it is the greatest form of mitigation in the game AND you can cast instants while keeping your block up.

rebellisb16_ESO

When I understand you correctly, there is currently no valid melee build to play with but instead using class spells "only" while preserving stamina for just blocking attacks? Sounds like I picked the wrong class or even game...

kirnmalidus

The problem is not with your build, but with your mindset. You should be challenged by these groups of mobs in vet levels and they should require some effort to defeat.

The fact that some DKs and Sorcs can currently "roflstomp" these enemies is what's broken, not the fact that you can't.

kirnmalidus

rebellisb16_ESO wrote: »

When I understand you correctly, there is currently no valid melee build to play with but instead using class spells "only" while preserving stamina for just blocking attacks? Sounds like I picked the wrong class or even game...

If you are playing a Nightblade or Templar you can currently say you picked the wrong class. You won't find many agreeing with you as a DK.

Westcoast14_ESO

rebellisb16_ESO wrote: »

When I understand you correctly, there is currently no valid melee build to play with but instead using class spells "only" while preserving stamina for just blocking attacks? Sounds like I picked the wrong class or even game...

In general, if you want to burst down packs of mobs asap, you need heavy AoE DPS. Currently the best sources of AoE DPS is arguably Impulse and its morphs. Combine that with perpetual blocking (for ultimate gain and mitigation) since Impulse an instant cast and its hard to argue against that as foundation for clearing packs.

There are plenty of melee builds that can successfully clear packs of mobs as well. They just will not do so as quickly.

Summary:
Melee can be successful in solo PvE, but the game substantially favors magicka based staff builds.

As an aside, Sorcerers do fine at taking down packs, but they are a fair bit weaker than DK's in comparison.

Erock25

Westcoast14_ESO wrote: »

As an aside, Sorcerers do fine at taking down packs, but they are a fair bit weaker than DK's in comparison.

The caveat that needs to be added here though is ***as a light armor wearing caster***. It seems people are rolling NB/temp heavy armor melee users and then getting caught up in class balance without realizing that a heavy armor melee sorc and dk are similarly under powered. Lots of NB in particular get upset about this because they want to be the prototypical rogue and think it is a class issue when that doesn't work out. Well, my medium armor, dual wield daggers, crit surge sorc is also heavily outclassed by that same toon in a dress and a staff.

Reykice

kirnmalidus wrote: »

rebellisb16_ESO wrote: »

When I understand you correctly, there is currently no valid melee build to play with but instead using class spells "only" while preserving stamina for just blocking attacks? Sounds like I picked the wrong class or even game...

If you are playing a Nightblade or Templar you can currently say you picked the wrong class. You won't find many agreeing with you as a DK.

There are NB`s soloing Craglorn too... stop trying to make them look weak.

As for the OP... CC helps... Magma Armor is also a God Mode for the duration...

Gisgo

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

There are NB`s soloing Craglorn too... stop trying to make them look weak.

NBs are soloing public dungeons.
DKs are soloing trials.

Not exactly the same thing.

Paladin_echo1

NB are very powerful if you run into the wrong one. Cut you down to 58% hp within a few seconds in pvp at 3khp in heavy armor that is all purple.

kirnmalidus

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

kirnmalidus wrote: »

rebellisb16_ESO wrote: »

When I understand you correctly, there is currently no valid melee build to play with but instead using class spells "only" while preserving stamina for just blocking attacks? Sounds like I picked the wrong class or even game...

If you are playing a Nightblade or Templar you can currently say you picked the wrong class. You won't find many agreeing with you as a DK.

There are NB`s soloing Craglorn too... stop trying to make them look weak.

As for the OP... CC helps... Magma Armor is also a God Mode for the duration...

Are you referring to the video of the NB soloing Hircine's Haunt? Because (1) that is a dungeon, not a trial and (2) my understanding is that was filmed on PTS, so you can't assume the dungeon is still soloable on live. I've not seen or heard anyone confirm it is or isn't for the same NB build now that it is live.

Also, I'm not saying Nightblades are weak. I'm a VR9 Nightblade, and while it hasn't been easy getting to where I am, I got there, so it's doable.

What I am saying is that this guy complaining about things being too hard as a DK is crazy. It's all relative. That's how balance works.

rebellisb16_ESO

Hello there,

thanks for all the offtopic and non-related advises and issues you brought up.
I am aware of some NB issues but yet this is not what I was initially was asking for nor was I asking for Vet12 Solo Trials bla bla.


I was looking for some helpful tips regarding my DK. From 20 posts I got two useful suggesting to use Ash Storm and Magma Armor as ultimate ability. I agree with you, @alexandru987eb17_ESO and @demonlkojipub19_ESO . Much appreciated. Well, guess I have to somehow integrate your rant into my build.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

i think the comments are more because you can randomly pick dk skills, mash buttons and still kill mobs successfully.