Should your next alt after your vr12 start at vr1?

dcincali

This would save on the time to the 1-50 content again since you already did it. Comments?

Iceman_mat

No


-cheers

Yakidafi

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No.

I want to start at vr12 since I have done the content already.

skeletorz_ESO

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No. The content is how you thoroughly learn the new class, one step at a time (one level, skillpoint, ability, etc).

Brainzee

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No.

I hate leveling, I hate questing (questing has to be the most anti social feature ever created in online games, making so that you can bypass any group activity to reach top level in a decent time) and yet I would not want for such a system to be.

Leveling should serve multiple purposes:

• A time sink, plain and simple
• Learn your class/profession whatever the game calls it, specialy in this game where you can test any of the skill lines well before you reach veteran content
• Meet people and create bonds so you actualy have a reason to log the next day, even when you have done all available content

In my opinion, leveling should take a while, because it artificialy gives a game longer life, because no game designer will ever be able to create content as fast as gamers beat it.
Time sinks are necessary for a game's longevity, it's up to the game designers and manager to make these options interesting.

To me a game where leveling takes a while, and this game does not qualifiy as taking a while to get to vr12 by no means, makes it so I have to make a concious choice of what class I am getting to top level, because then I will have to try and master it as best as I can and not just roll a new class just because I can.

skeletorz_ESO

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

Brainzee wrote: »

To me a game where leveling takes a while, and this game does not qualifiy as taking a while to get to vr12 by no means...

Now, see that's where you're just wrong. If you play the game the way the developers intended, questing, then getting to vr12 will take you well over 500 hours. That's pretty darn long for a game.

Brainzee

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

skeletorz_ESO wrote: »

Brainzee wrote: »

To me a game where leveling takes a while, and this game does not qualifiy as taking a while to get to vr12 by no means...

Now, see that's where you're just wrong. If you play the game the way the developers intended, questing, then getting to vr12 will take you well over 500 hours. That's pretty darn long for a game.

I would be well interested to see where you get those 500 hours worth of game time from?
I am vr12, I have a job and I play mostly on week-ends and yet I made to vr12 in about 3 weeks - I cant check my played time yet as the mega server is not up.

500 hours would be a little over 20 days worth of real life time, by no means has this been the case.

I would consider 20 days to a month worth of real life time to get to top level somewhat long, but by no means is this the case.
Again, if MMOs weren't so focused on only providing content for the end game, players' perception of what is a long time might be different.
As it stands, in this game the only activity you can take on at any level is Cyrodill thanks to the artificial skill boost system.

I can understand why people want to rush to end game, I just dont agree with most people's definiton of "a long time" I guess.

Mjoel

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No why not leveling your char from 1-50 and after that you reach vr12?

VRlv could be like Paragon levels in diablo 3

Blackwidow

Yes, that would be amazing.

Personally, at this junction yes. After being forced to do every single quest with one character, (on all three factions) I have no desire to repeat the same exact thing.

In EQ and WoW you had plenty of options where you wanted to level up, because it was a vast open world.

ESO is a closed off eco bubble of repeating hell.

ozgod22_eso

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

Before you know it you will have VR1 for sale on the Zenimax website, just like WoW.

Pele

No.

OP, as you've stated yourself: reaching veteran status takes time. [Yes, for some it takes less time, but time nonetheless.]

In my opinion, it would devalue the veteran ranks if a brand new toon, even if it is an alt, could become a veteran simply because another toon on the same account is VR 12.

kieso

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No that's silly, you want an alt you should work toward it.

kasain

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

Nope, do like ffxiv. Your second toon gets 50% exp bonus on everything until he reaches same lvl as highest job you have.

V12 is pointless v15 is around the corner.

sztartureb17_ESO

Neither of the two. Just remove Veteran Ranks or make them PvE ranks as we have PvP ranks.

McDoogs

1-50 only takes 25ish hours

Guppet

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

I'd would prefer quite the opposite. If you are VR12, you level an alt to 50, so you actually choose the faction to play, you learn how to play your class as you gradually unlock skills and you skip the VR1-12.

SinisterJoint

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

I think it should start at lvl 1, and have to get it to vr1, soon as you hit vr1 you go straight to vr12

Guppet

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

McDoogs wrote: »

1-50 only takes 25ish hours

If you use exploits maybe. 1-50 by questing is more like 4-5 days played.

phaneub17_ESO

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

If you do the 3-way crafting on your first character with Smithing, Clothing, and Woodworking it already makes it easier for your alts by creating set bonus gear for them to use. My first alt is breezing through content that my main used to have trouble with not just that I have the knowledge experience, but also by crafting them gear they don't have to randomly find upgrades for. Some people do it every 2-4 levels, I'm lazy though and just make them a full blue or purple set every max material craft level.

Nox_Aeterna

Yes, that would be amazing.

Mate , there would still be no point in having said alt , you need to do many of the quests for the extra skill points , you have dungeons skill points , you have skyshards/lorebooks...

Honestly , this game require tons of time invested in any char , that is all there is to it.

Reason i wont make an alt , probably (just because i can only be 99,999999% sure) , in this game.

McDoogs

Guppet wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

1-50 only takes 25ish hours

If you use exploits maybe. 1-50 by questing is more like 4-5 days played.

No exploits at all, just efficient mob grinding from 30-50. Not everyone who levels faster than you is cheating.

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Worstluck

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

I've already leveled another alt the regular way. It was fun because I found a lot of different things second time around. 1-50 goes by very fast. Although now I think about it I will keep him parked in Cyro with the current state of veteran content

Guppet

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

McDoogs wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

1-50 only takes 25ish hours

If you use exploits maybe. 1-50 by questing is more like 4-5 days played.

No exploits at all, just efficient mob grinding from 30-50. Not everyone who levels faster than you is cheating.

Also if your suggesting that mob grinding should be the norm, your dreaming, most wont be happy just aoe grinding mobs.

I have done AOE grinding and I still say 25ish hours is utter BS, more like 70 unless you are in a group composed of optimal classes.

Even all the AOE guides say 50 hours in a pair.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

tanthil

nah, 1-50 should be the same, the VR ranks should be an account thing. once you get vr12 all your characters are vr12 and only need to be leveled 1-50

crislevin

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

I already did.

Fact is you don't get to taste each class properly since your v12 char already finished all the same content.

fyendiarb16_ESO

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

I like leveling the regular way, doing it on multiple alts from the get go. Honestly, if it was up to me and I think many are grateful it is not, veteran ranks would be removed completely. The whole idea of veteran ranks and the way they implemented this system rubs me the wrong way.

Luckily the game is fun and I won't let just one part of the game ruin the rest for me.

Rosveen

Why not start at V1R12 with all skill points? It would save you the time of playing the game since you already did it.

syndr34ub17_ESO

No, I want to level another alt the regular way.

No.
As stated, it gives you the chance to learn your character, and all of the ins and outs. I don't need to "save time" playing a game. The whole point of playing the game is to spend time doing it for the enjoyment of it.