Single Target Scorcs advice needed

alexj4596b14_ESO

ok so my current single target dps is 350-425, this needs too go MUCH higher i need too push it into the 700 DPS per sec range how would i be able too do that and make it sustained damage

Currently Crit 43%
spell Power 112
Magic 2000

let me know your thoughts thanks!

Affrayer

Your crit is good.
My base damage for Crystal Shards is a bit over 720. 756 after food. It can crit for over 1.1k damage.

Current Crit 49% (55.5% with thief stone if it works.)

Spell Power 139

Magic 2.1k

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

citydeer

Affrayer wrote: »

Your crit is good.
My base damage for Crystal Shards is a bit over 720. 756 after food. It can crit for over 1.1k damage.

Current Crit 49% (55.5% with thief stone if it works.)

Spell Power 139

Magic 2.1k

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Thanks for sharing, didn't know spell power is so important! Mine is only 95 and normal shard is like 550 and crit around 780.
Possible to also share your equipment as well as your skill rotation?

JosephChip

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

alexj4596b14_ESO

JosephChip wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

Im running now a weapon power/spell power/crit set up, my average single target dps with a staff is 450-600, my AoE can hit 3K spiked. You just have too watch your magic thats all. It takes allot of skill too insure that you don't run out of magic, something i have not mastered yet myself.

cjmarsh725b14_ESO

A good magicka management ability is spell symmetry (the morph of equilibrium in the mage's guild line). Using this before crystal fragments will give you a discount on the fragments, more magicka, and more spell power on the cast at the expense of health. Using this skill wisely you can keep up your magicka indefinitely.

Jimm_ay

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

JosephChip wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

Im running now a weapon power/spell power/crit set up, my average single target dps with a staff is 450-600, my AoE can hit 3K spiked. You just have too watch your magic thats all. It takes allot of skill too insure that you don't run out of magic, something i have not mastered yet myself.

i mastered myself last night

Affrayer

citydeer wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Your crit is good.
My base damage for Crystal Shards is a bit over 720. 756 after food. It can crit for over 1.1k damage.

Current Crit 49% (55.5% with thief stone if it works.)

Spell Power 139

Magic 2.1k

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Thanks for sharing, didn't know spell power is so important! Mine is only 95 and normal shard is like 550 and crit around 780.
Possible to also share your equipment as well as your skill rotation?

PVP (When I go solo)
5 pc Night Mothers, 3 pc Willow, dual resto staff, 3 pieces of jewelry that increases spell power (max is 13 a piece). Thief mundus stone.
1st bar: Crystal Fragments, Velocious Curse, Endless Fury, Inner Light, Ball of Lightning (BE morph) Ultimate: Soul Assault
2nd bar: Inner Light, Force Siphon, Mutagen, Dark Conversion, Combat Prayer
Ultimate: Devouring Swarm

This build requires good magicka management.

PVE (and PVP while in a group)
5 pc Night Mothers, 3 pc Willow, Destro staff, Resto staff, 3 warlock jewelry pieces. Thief mundus stone.
1st bar: (fire destro staff) Crystal Fragments, Critical Surge, Pulsar, Inner Light, Endless Fury.
Ultimate: Suppression field (Negate Magic morph)
2nd bar: (resto staff) Inner Light, Ward Ally (or purge), Mutagen, Dark Conversion, Healing Springs. Ultimate: Devouring Swarm

This build has good magicka regen and the warlock regen.

Always stay buffed with food! I use Fortified Sweet Rolls.

It's my own personal preference but I don't use equilibrium. I don't see the point in trading health for magicka when you can trade stamina for magicka (dark conversion). It makes your probability of death that much higher.

Affrayer

JosephChip wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

Health regen in combat is crap anyways, as is meant to be.

I get a bit over 80 magicka recovery in combat with my solo pvp build. It isn't much (still over soft cap though)but I usually never run out of magicka during my fights. I can use pots, dark conversion, or my dual resto staves to restore magicka. Dark conversion/healing spells to restore hp.

Wavemoore

Affrayer wrote: »

Your crit is good.
My base damage for Crystal Shards is a bit over 720. 756 after food. It can crit for over 1.1k damage.

Current Crit 49% (55.5% with thief stone if it works.)

Spell Power 139

Magic 2.1k

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Thanks for the info Affrayer.

Are you V12? If so, does spell damage increase with level (haven't noticed to be honest). That would make more sense to me if it does. I'm currently V9 with:

Crit 50.8% (assuming thief stone is working)

Spell Damage - 88

Magicka - 2106 (with food)

Even with the 3 legendary jewelry chants, that would put me at only 124 spell power. Curious how you reach 139, given that our stats are similar.

You perked my ears up when you said your base shards dmg was 756 with food. I think mine is only in the 550 range and I crit up to around 800-825. Would love to reach your numbers, but stats wise how do I get there aside from just enchants?

Thanks in advance for the help, and thanks for the topic Alex.

Wavemoore

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

JosephChip wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

Im running now a weapon power/spell power/crit set up, my average single target dps with a staff is 450-600, my AoE can hit 3K spiked. You just have too watch your magic thats all. It takes allot of skill too insure that you don't run out of magic, something i have not mastered yet myself.

You went from 350-425 dps to 450-600 dps just by adding spell power on jewelry? Anything else you changed that you can share. Numbers look really good.

Reason I ask is I'm in the same boat as you before you made whatever changes you did. I'm around 400 dps, spikes up close to 500 on good crystal fragment proc fights, but it's total RNG. Would like a little more sustained increase as well.

Affrayer

@Wavemoore‌

Yes I'm V12. I'm not sure if spell damage levels with you. My crit and spell power went down a bit after maintenance a few days ago. Not sure why. Plus some of that spell power came from Cyrodill bonuses (scrolls).

Currently I'm

53.8% crit (if thief is working)

130 spell damage

over 2.1k magicka (with food of course)


A v12 spell power enchant will be better than a v9 spell power enchant. Mine are 13 a piece. The few points a piece really do make a difference.

Even with jewelry, you won't get my numbers unless you carry a resto staff with the damage buff passive.

Though combat prayer only lasts a total of 8-9 seconds, it boosts my shards to 810-820 and it can crit for just shy over 1.3k

TerrorScream

after they fixed theif stone i grabed it for my crit build, sadly only applies to weapon crit not spell crit, was very disapointed. and the crit damage stone still doesnt work either. looks like max magika stone is only option

Affrayer

TerrorScream wrote: »

after they fixed theif stone i grabed it for my crit build, sadly only applies to weapon crit not spell crit, was very disapointed. and the crit damage stone still doesnt work either. looks like max magika stone is only option

Some people say it does work and it's only a visual bug. That's just hearsay though. Would you happen to know for sure? Has zos made a statement about this somewhere?

Arzarzel

Thief is working got a statement of support. Only the interface doesn't show it after u
a.)logged out
b.)switched Zone
c.)had any loading screen.


Trial-Setup
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Atm using 3pc Magnus(5%chance on free cast...which procc wayyyy often in my oppinion) 5pc Willows 3pc Warlock(jewels)(115-120 reggen)
2nd-Bar is Aoe-Bar which u will need quite often in bossfights if there are adds, and u will use attro as ulti in execute phase.
1st-Bar: Curse and trap are to toggle ur crystal shard proc and sustain dps.
Rota: Curse (use crystal rpocc if it is), Trap (use proc), light attack (if no proccs), new curse (use crystal procc if u got one or cast an crytal shard), trap.
Repeat until out of mana( after warlock proc and pot), turn on ultimate to refresh mana( ulti if critting deals 565 dmg/hit critical, and nearly always critting don't ask why( i am at 53%) just push down left mouse button and cast new soultrap as well).
After ur mana is full repeat rota (if ulti is over and u aint got full mana, set on trap and curse quickly switch second bar use dark exchange).
Execute phase: ulti ->attro and spam endless furry

If have to test if this also works rly good if i am using spelldmg rings and an other set than magnus. With this set up i have rly good sustained dps.

95spelldmg 115-120 regen, 2260 mana(with food)

Affrayer

@Arzarzel‌

Thanks! ^^

alexj4596b14_ESO

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Wavemoore wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

JosephChip wrote: »

Affrayer wrote: »

Basically all you need is Overcharged magicka (2k+) and 3 pieces of jewelry enchanted with Increase Magical Harm (spell power). That will boost your single target dps considerably.

Wouldn't this leave your magicka and health regen to the ground, though?
The problem is that only jewelry pieces can grant increased regens. How do you deal with this?

Im running now a weapon power/spell power/crit set up, my average single target dps with a staff is 450-600, my AoE can hit 3K spiked. You just have too watch your magic thats all. It takes allot of skill too insure that you don't run out of magic, something i have not mastered yet myself.

You went from 350-425 dps to 450-600 dps just by adding spell power on jewelry? Anything else you changed that you can share. Numbers look really good.

Reason I ask is I'm in the same boat as you before you made whatever changes you did. I'm around 400 dps, spikes up close to 500 on good crystal fragment proc fights, but it's total RNG. Would like a little more sustained increase as well.

There is a flip side, iv been running two spell power and 1 regin ring, and then changing that too two weapon power and one regin ring I have not decided which is better. Scorc's can boost weapon damage through critical surge and get decent heals. My current bar is weekends to elements(morphed), force shock, fragments, critical surge, and Mage light. My dps last night for single target was 350-406 on the boss. I really feel like the increased penetration on staff helps more the crit value dose over all. I didn't have the correct jewelry on last night I will do a real test when I get home today and see what I can't average out. Il report my finding back here.