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This game needs a proper aution house

ImaginaryDimension
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I'm in 3 trading guilds, all with 500 members and for over a weak there is barely any Kuta, Rosin, Dreugh Wax and Tempering alloys for sale, maybe 1 or 2 and those that are for sale are going for 25k+ per peice. It's just pathetic.

At first I had high hopes for guild stores being that it would cut out the spamming in /zone but actually that is all I seem to find myself doing. Spamming for hours a day in Cyrodiil for pvp gear, /zone for other gear and quite frankly I'm bored of it.

Like I said I'm in 3 x 500 man trading guilds but this simply isn't a large enough population of players to have a good sample of items to buy. Especially since there are only 3 or 4 guilds which only accept V12 members but they're completely full.

Why not just create a server based auction house where people can list their items? Drastically improve the auction house refineability so people can actually find items without scrolling through dozens of pages.

The guild store needs a complete makeover anyway so why not just get rid of it and create a proper auction house, so we can spend less time spamming in /zone and more time enjoying the game?

Just a thought...
Edited by ImaginaryDimension on 28 May 2014 09:40
  • Cogo
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    Not again.

    Zenimax already stated there will be no AH, and explained the reason why.
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  • htoncic
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    And a great thought it is.

    +1
  • ImaginaryDimension
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    I don't give a rats ass what Zenimax want or think. We are the paying customers and we should have a say in what happens with the game. Most of the community want an auction house, we've given our reasons why and they're very resonable and Zenimax should be able to understand our frustration.

    Even if you joined 5 trading guilds which is just stupid, that still isn't a large enough player base to offer a decent amount of items. Most of the crap in the guild auction houses is just rubbish. The Kuta, alloys, wax ect is an absolute nightmare to buy and where is the fun in spamming in lfg for hours a day?

    What Zenimax want is irrelevant, they don't pay £9 a month for the game. We do.
  • Arreyanne
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    Sorry but this game needs alot more at the moment than an auction house, although sometime in the future that might work.
  • Censorious
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    It would go a long way towards sorting the problems if the existing Guild Store actually worked.

    Nobody uses it because of the clumsy, dysfunctional interface. You can't search it reliably, the categories are all over the place, you can't search for specific items and it's so full of useless junk that picking your way through the list is a total waste of time.
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  • Jeremy
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    Why not just create a server based auction house where people can list their items? Drastically improve the auction house refineability so people can actually find items without scrolling through dozens of pages.

    Their reasoning was this: because the game is built on a megaserver they were afraid it would make it too easy for players to buy the best gear in the game. And this would - as a result - harm the gear chase part of the game.

    It's a reasonable concern. Since a megaserver auction house would provide for a very robust economy with a consistent and reliable selection of goods competitively priced. So basically they decided to make the economy suck instead so players can't find what they want to buy.

    Now don't get me wrong. I'm not agreeing with their solution. It was an exaggerated and destructive response to what was actually a very simple problem.

    They should have instead just put special tags on the items they did not want players to have access to on the auction house. These tags would prevent specific items from being posted. Problem solved. Many other MMORPGs have done exactly this for the same reasons. But instead they decided to dismantle the entire economy. This was ludicrous and akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    But anyway... I agree with you and have been saying pretty much the same thing for weeks. I just thought you might find it interesting to know why the developers did what they did. Because there is a lot of misinformation floating around on these forums about this subject.
  • Jeremy
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    Sorry but this game needs alot more at the moment than an auction house, although sometime in the future that might work.

    I would say out of all the things this game needs - an auction house (or some other form of a functional and effective economy) is at the very top of that list.
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  • Arreyanne
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Arreyanne wrote: »
    Sorry but this game needs alot more at the moment than an auction house, although sometime in the future that might work.

    I would say out of all the things this game needs - an auction house (or some other form of a functional and effective economy) is at the very top of that list.
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    Oh I dont know, i would prefer for shadow cloak to work when I press the keybind, or perhaps haste passive to work past rank 2 or even on my bow.

    or how about any skill working when I press a keybind instead of taking the magika and using the animation and doing zero damage, or how about the skill actually firing the first time i press the keybind instead of the thrid or fourth

    Then maybe i'd have something to put on this auction house that will save the game from doom
  • Stratti
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    Typical , where one should adapt they complain.

    There is a guild store addon that scans all listing in all guilds. If you are finding that there isn't too much wax probably because the supply is really low and people are holding it.
    25k would be about right as I cannot see too many legendary items being deconstructed outside of guilds for the time being .

    Try some new guilds . I definitely see wax spamming
  • Sallakat
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    Sigh, another one....
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  • williambbechtoldub17_ESO
    Polls have been made, and the results support that the subscribers do want an auction house. Count me as one of those people. An auction house would greatly improve my gaming experience and make me more likely to subscribe long-term. I love logging in to see if any of my wares sell, and what-not.

    I am playing almost every day and I am enjoying the game, but I am really on the fence on if I will subscribe after my 3 month subscription is up. In the meantime I am trying to level one of each class to the VR ranks. An auction house would definitely keep me playing longer as buying and selling has alway been fun for me, even from the East Commons tunnel days of EQ. The current system in ESO sucks.
  • Catflinger
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    This is a new and exciting topic (as the kids like to say).
  • Jeremy
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    Typical , where one should adapt they complain.

    Adapt to what?

    Either you can find what you are looking for to buy or you can't. You can't adapt to a broken economy.

    You likely just got lucky and found yourself in a guild that actually sells what you are attempting to buy. But that isn't adaptation. It's just simple luck.
    Edited by Jeremy on 28 May 2014 12:30
  • Jeremy
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    Arreyanne wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Arreyanne wrote: »
    Sorry but this game needs alot more at the moment than an auction house, although sometime in the future that might work.

    I would say out of all the things this game needs - an auction house (or some other form of a functional and effective economy) is at the very top of that list.
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    Oh I dont know, i would prefer for shadow cloak to work when I press the keybind, or perhaps haste passive to work past rank 2 or even on my bow.

    or how about any skill working when I press a keybind instead of taking the magika and using the animation and doing zero damage, or how about the skill actually firing the first time i press the keybind instead of the thrid or fourth

    Then maybe i'd have something to put on this auction house that will save the game from doom

    The things you list seem to be class-specific bugs which will get fixed soon (or at least should).

    But the broken economy is fundamental to the game's over-all design and affects everyone and drags the entire game down. It also affects the gameplay in very negative ways, such as causing players to neglect their crafting while leveling up due to the unavailability of materials etc.

    That's why I say if there is one thing this game needs to fix - it's the economy.
  • Turelus
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    Were you looking at the store or trade? Because most people want to trade those directly and not eat the AH/GS tax on them.
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  • ZOS_LenaicR
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    Hi guys,

    We already have several ongoing discussions about this specific topic. If you'd like to share your thoughts, you'll find the main discussion thread here:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/70211/auction-house-is-a-must

    We've closed this thread and ask that this discussion continue in the thread linked above, so we can keep the discussions about this topic consolidated.

    We also recommend using the forum search function and checking through the last few pages of results to see if there is already an existing thread about a topic you'd like to discuss. Consolidated discussions help us optimize the search function, and makes finding and reading specific threads easier for all.

    If anyone has questions or concerns about this thread closure, please feel free to contact us via a private message.

    We are reading your suggestions so feel free to discuss and debate in an appropriate manner in the thread: Auction House is a must.

    Thank you!
    Edited by ZOS_LenaicR on 28 May 2014 13:00
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