Volcanic Rune

Mablung

I think that Volcanic Rune was stealth nerfed during maintenance today. I actually died spamming it this morning. More info to come....

WilliamTee

Mablung wrote: »

I am not sure what you mean. Volcanic rune is a staple for Nightblades. It is extremely powerful in the dmg and cc it provides to this class when using the bow and its abilities.

See.... I look at statements like that and get so utterly confused.

The internet is a cruel cruel companion to not supply us with the NVC to determine sarcasm...

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Mablung

WilliamTee wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

I am not sure what you mean. Volcanic rune is a staple for Nightblades. It is extremely powerful in the dmg and cc it provides to this class when using the bow and its abilities.

See.... I look at statements like that and get so utterly confused.

The internet is a cruel cruel companion to not supply us with the NVC to determine sarcasm...

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Not sure what is confusing about that statement.

PVT_Parts

BrassRazoo wrote: »

Isn't this a Mages Guild Skill and available to all?

So was shield bash.

Illumous

PVT_Parts wrote: »

BrassRazoo wrote: »

Isn't this a Mages Guild Skill and available to all?

So was shield bash.

Difference is that you can use VR without specing a certain class or weapon.

PBpsy

WilliamTee wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

I am not sure what you mean. Volcanic rune is a staple for Nightblades. It is extremely powerful in the dmg and cc it provides to this class when using the bow and its abilities.

See.... I look at statements like that and get so utterly confused.

The internet is a cruel cruel companion to not supply us with the NVC to determine sarcasm...

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

As a rule of the thumb always assume that people are sarcastic or plain **** around on the internet. Sometimes they are serious ,as in seriously insane. When that happens just leave that thread ,forum part of the internet and never look back.

WilliamTee

Mablung wrote: »

Not sure what is confusing about that statement.

Bow = Nightblade.

yup.

You're completely right.

Only NBs use VR and only NBs use bows.

I've clearly played my v12 NB completely wrong as I have neither.

Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

/curtsey

Mablung

WilliamTee wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

Not sure what is confusing about that statement.

Bow = Nightblade.

yup.

You're completely right.

Only NBs use VR and only NBs use bows.

I've clearly played my v12 NB completely wrong as I have neither.

Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

/curtsey

I think that I win. This thread can now die.

WilliamTee

wholeheartedly agree, very successful!

To be called out from post one, but manage to engage numpties like me in extended baiting while also succeeding to entirely avoid admin wrath while the posts of others get repeated attention.

I doff my cap to you sir.

Ysne58

So, how in fact is this skill overpowered? I still haven't figured out why you are even making this argument.

When I use it at the start of a group fight, the enemies end up with at most a quarter of their health down -- and usually less. With how squishy my nightblade is that doesn't help me a whole lot. Getting them all out of the game is a huge challenge.
Although casting Circle of Protection will help me some with survivability.

It doesn't last long either, and I never seem to have time to place a second one because i'm going back and forth between swallow soul and silver shards.

Mablung

The intention of this post was to poke fun at nightblades and their abhorrent abilities. I being a VR8 Nightblade saw in zone chat one night a couple of fellow NBs discussing how volcanic rune and the bow are what they believed to be the class's saving features. Ironic that one is a Mage's Guild ability and the other a stam based, basically useless weapon in solo play (imo).

I wanted to really point out the absurdity of not being able to play the class as we want, which was a big selling point of the game, without coming across as nerd raging.

Thanks for the fun!

PBpsy

Mablung wrote: »

The intention of this post was to poke fun at nightblades and their abhorrent abilities. I being a VR8 Nightblade saw in zone chat one night a couple of fellow NBs discussing how volcanic rune and the bow are what they believed to be the class's saving features. Ironic that one is a Mage's Guild ability and the other a stam based, basically useless weapon in solo play (imo).

I wanted to really point out the absurdity of not being able to play the class as we want, which was a big selling point of the game, without coming across as nerd raging.

Thanks for the fun!

I think you might need to give an even more in-depth analysis of your original post. From what I have seen people tend to take things very literally around here.

Mablung

PBpsy wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

The intention of this post was to poke fun at nightblades and their abhorrent abilities. I being a VR8 Nightblade saw in zone chat one night a couple of fellow NBs discussing how volcanic rune and the bow are what they believed to be the class's saving features. Ironic that one is a Mage's Guild ability and the other a stam based, basically useless weapon in solo play (imo).

I wanted to really point out the absurdity of not being able to play the class as we want, which was a big selling point of the game, without coming across as nerd raging.

Thanks for the fun!

I think you might need to give an even more in-depth analysis of your original post. From what I have seen people tend to take things very literally around here.

Going back through the thread that is very obvious. Some people I think need to get loved up some to ease the tension in their lives.

Garetth

RylukShouja wrote: »

You guys are all missing the point. I saw a bot use biting jabs once. We should instaban anyone who uses this ability. Then class balance will be irrelevant and we can continue using op nightblade abilities mistakenly placed under the mages guild skill lines because there will be no more gold farmers.

They already *** the Templars with their stealth nerf to biting jabs.

true2moon_ESO

this skill is pretty easy to spam, but its also easy to avoid to be honest. I wouldn't be opposed to its magicka cost being increased, but as noted about its a mage guild skill not a NB skill. I dont even think this does that much damage to be honest its just the annoying knockdown.

PBpsy

true2moon_ESO wrote: »

this skill is pretty easy to spam, but its also easy to avoid to be honest. I wouldn't be opposed to its magicka cost being increased, but as noted about its a mage guild skill not a NB skill. I dont even think this does that much damage to be honest its just the annoying knockdown.

Nope it doesn't need any cost increase. For PvP this skill is almost useless it can be avoided with no effort and at best does 5% damage from what I have seen.I would require a very coordinated group to make it very effective . In PvE it is however one of the few somewhat reliable CC options for people that are not DKs and doesn't even close to talons.

RylukShouja

Garetth wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

You guys are all missing the point. I saw a bot use biting jabs once. We should instaban anyone who uses this ability. Then class balance will be irrelevant and we can continue using op nightblade abilities mistakenly placed under the mages guild skill lines because there will be no more gold farmers.

They already *** the Templars with their stealth nerf to biting jabs.

I was being facetious...

Mud_Puppy

NBs are so messed up. Most bugged class altogether. However since the stealth skill can be exploited and they can solo vet dungeons they're also the most OP. Mindfucky right?

PBpsy

Mud_Puppy wrote: »

NBs are so messed up. Most bugged class altogether. However since the stealth skill can be exploited and they can solo vet dungeons they're also the most OP. Mindfucky right?

/plants Volcanic rune on your forehead,

Reevster

I don't get all this NB is messed up stuff...all i know is that I die before I even have a chance to hit a skill line button in PvP when I am attacked by a NB.....atleast when a Sorc or /DK/Templar attacks me I have a few seconds to fightback...NBs are too OPed....

Swordguy

Welcome to the Elder Trolls Online.

Zxaxz

Mablung wrote: »

Alpha_Protocol wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

I disagree. Volcanic Rune is not nearly powerful enough for it's incredibly long cast time and innefficient use of mana.

It obviously penalizes stamina builds, and isn't even worth putting on your bar because there are better abilities, like snipe.

It's instant cast, if you're fumbling with placement that's another issue entirely.

Also, if you are a stamina build you've already penalized yourself.

If you are a stam build then you are running the most optimal build for a volcanic rune god mode build. Just think, all of that magicka for volcanic rune.....

What else can be said...we need some dev response on the balancing issue this extremely powerful ability is causing.

OMG, Don't Nerf Volcanic Ruin. It has been found to be the only skill capable of killing the Unbeatable 3 Skeever Mobs sets. If you Nerf this NB skill, then we are all but done for =./

Zxaxz

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Mablung wrote: »

Can we please stay on topic and discuss Volcanic Rune?

Ok. Yes it is indispensable for me as a NB tank with S&B.

Situation 1 . Solo against big pack of mobs.
1.Locate healers or mages.
2.Open volcanic rune
3.Go in Spam Sap essence
4.VR again
5.Sap essence (optional)
6.Veil of blades
7.If some mobs are out of the circle of death I VR so that I throw them in. Sometimes works.
8.Sap Sap Sap.

The End


Situation 2 . In groups.
The same only that I also place it a lot in front of my healer templar team mate.

Wow. So you don't even use it with Bow? DW and it still retains its potency?

*Mind blown*

Nope not DW. I use it Sword&Shield. I must drop my guard a bit from time to time but it is an awesome defensive/control skill

I call lies. Nobody uses sword and shield, because without bash, it has the worst defensive rating of any weapon line.

/agree; S/B can't be used anymore. It's broken beyond repair; you must mean some other weapon set up?

TheGrimaceOR

The reason every Nightblade uses Volcanic Rune; ( Or at least should if you have half a brain ) Is because as a class we have no real effective AoE CC. For a magika based NB is does good damage and CC and even for a stam based NB it is good to use to save your stam for other weapon skills or bow attacks while still keeping CC. The only other Group CC we would have access to is the AoE bow slow an root that doesn't last as long and has a huge stamina cost.

Mablung

TheGrimaceOR wrote: »

The reason every Nightblade uses Volcanic Rune;IS BECAUSE IT IS LIKE ENABLING GODMODE THROUGH A CONSOLE COMMAND.

Fixed

Tavore1138

The true tragicomedy of this thread is that some dev is going to ignore all the serious threads on NB broken skills & take this one seriously

Rylana

At first i was like

But then I was like